Coffee is addictive and a gateway drug. In fact, it was my gateway drug http://www.newportacademy.com/coffee-the-new-gateway-drug-for-teens/
Should Recreational Marijuana be Legal?
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Coffee is addictive and a gateway drug. In fact, it was my gateway drug http://www.newportacademy.com/coffee-the-new-gateway-drug-for-teens/
It has to do with the terminology they use for defining who is allowed to possess it. My brother isn't under state or legal care, just under the care of my parents. Additionally, he's 22, 6' tall and 170lbs and has, well, epilepsy, so he doesn't walk, talk, understand instructions, or even eat. Getting him to Denver is not really an option.
Also, there is the consideration that it takes a lot of time and work to get the balance right, as his epilepsy is pretty damn severe, and I don't see any way my parents try it for him in the next 3-4 years. Hopefully by then they will move to a state (Colorado) that puts the health of their citizens above the (unfounded) concerns of a bunch of anti-pot simpletons.
Same here. I personally think it is disgusting and that is my right to think that. I really don't care or think it is any of my business if someone else smokes in the comfort of their own home or other "safe" area.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not arguing against you. People shouldn't have to travel across state boundaries to receive something that will allow them to live full and productive lives. I just haven't read the law as they've posed it.
So, does the law only work for those who are under state care? If so, that's pretty asinine.
For anyone who isn't accustomed to weed, edibles will send you to an entirely different plane of existence.
Yeah I thought it was no big deal considering I've smoked plenty of chronic. Yeah that wasn't the case.
To be honest Hawkman, I'm not sure people that want to get high don't get it pretty easily anyways. Might as well make money off it.
I do think, it sets a bad example for children though, essentially teaching them that it's OK to use drugs and get high.
I do think, it sets a bad example for children though, essentially teaching them that it's OK to use drugs and get high.
Is anyone really free if you allow someone to decide what they can or cannot ingest into their body? That goes for any drug including heroin. Fire up a fatty for your Daddy. I don't care. As Pete Williams wrote in his book, Ain't No one's Business If You Do. Those same prohibitionists oppose universal healthcare. Where is their consistency? One minute, they scream for big brother, the next, they're shouting get out of my life. You can't have it both ways.
Tougher DUI penalties would help reduce this risk, but one step at a time I guess. I don't have any stats on increased DUI's because of pot in Colorado. That would be nice to have. But my support comes from the fact that there's no reason people need to have a criminal record and/or do time for smoking a little weed in the privacy of their own home. Overcrowding in prisons is an epidemic, which leads to more violent offenders getting out sooner than what they probably should.
I'll take a person stoned driving around over a drunk all day and every day of the week. I can only speak for myself here, but I drove *ONCE* while being stoned. I only had to go about 12 city blocks or so and it was terrifying as shit. By terrifying I mean I was going 25, felt like I was going 50 and I was ridiculously hyper sensitive to everything around me. It's probably the "safest" I have ever drove a car in my life.
To say that you're worried about people getting stoned and getting behind the wheel means you really don't understand what happens when people smoke weed.
Going out and about is generally(everyone is different) the last thing on your mind.
Impaired is impaired, I don't want to meet a stoner on a two lane highway at 1 a.m.
I have smoked plenty in my life and it is not safe to drive when you are blazed. I want it to be legal but I don't want stoned drivers any more than I want drunk drivers.
I didn't say they were overcrowded by pot users. I said they were overcrowded. Which means reasonable means that will ease the strain on that problem, I am going to consider supporting.
That and hello, it's a flippin gold mine for Colorado right now. Might as well get a piece of the pie.
Of course, no one should get behind the wheel impaired. I've done it, and it's not something I'm proud of but it would be stupid of me not to glean some information from it. If we're using the idea that "I'm afraid stoned people will drive around" as an argument than it is completely ludicrous that alcohol is still legal.
Again, I'll take a stoned driver over a drunk driver all day every day if we're going to split those hairs.
I'm just curious of the Arb's of the world (I'm 90% convinced he's just a douche bag troll on this subject) are rallying around prohibition of any substance that could possibly impair your driving. Because if they aren't they're hypocrites at best.
No I know.
It's weird, and I don't remember the precise language (and am way too lazy to read the statute again right now), but essentially you have to:
A. Travel there and get it yourself
B. Be under 18 and have your legal guardian travel and get it for you; or
C. Have a legal "caregiver" to go get it for you.
B&C are out for my brother, which means A, which is pretty much logistically impossible.
My biggest gripe is that this shit could have been done 10 years ago, and there could have been more tests, and people like my brother could have had their dosing properly calibrated (and calibrated quicker, as more patients tested) and the quality of his life could have been improved, even to the point that maybe he'd go back to eating.
But nope, some low IQ, reefer madness believing, dipshits, have prevented that from happening, because "drugs are bad", likely at the same time they take their ambien to fall asleep or viagra to bone their ugly ass wife or xanax to get through a day in their shitty life, while big pharma rakes in the profits (which is the least of these concerns, but certainly a factor in why we see such a resistance to legalized weed). Not to mention the $10/pack cigarettes they scarf down on their smoke breaks or the 8 Busch Lights they down each night at Kathy's Korner.
I have the same stance on marijuana as I do with gay marriage, I don't care either way. Both will be legalized federally in the next 10-20 years. Neither will have an impact on my life.
Smoking weed is certainly safer than drinking ridiculous amounts of alcohol, like I do. Frankly, I think you are a dumbass if you drink alcohol, then tell people they can't smoke marijuana.
Smoking weed is certainly safer than drinking ridiculous amounts of alcohol, like I do. Frankly, I think you are a dumbass if you drink alcohol, then tell people they can't smoke marijuana.
If it gets legalized, I wonder if employers will be allowed to test for and discriminate against users? I'd guess no, they would only be allowed to punish actual impairment, not use during personal time.
I work in law enforcement and I can tell you there is no difference between someone who's impaired by alcohol or marijuana. The difference is it's more difficult to detect someone who is under the influence of marijuana if you don't have a driving case. Also for those who think people are in jail or prison for getting busted with personal use you're wrong. Majority of the time they get fined and receive no jail time.
Why should they get fined? If they are the same, why is it harder to detect marijuana?
They get arrested and taken to jail, mugshots, holding cell, etc...
THEN, they get released. Big waste of time and resources for sure.
Iowa is one of the worst, most backward states for how they handle a small amount of marijuana. They take people to jail, as mentioned above.
What an embarrassing waste of resources.
What an embarrassing waste of resources.
Companies are allowed to not hire nicotine users now so I assume they'll be able to do the same with marijuana once legalized. I think its dumb because you can miss out on some good employees with that type of viewpoint
Here's an interesting Fed study for you. Should it be illegal to drive on prescription painkillers?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/11/stoned-driving-crash-risk_n_6654810.html
I can only answer this with a csb...
Buddy of mine used to work for a company in WI in waste water management. A company that is notoriously cheap with wages, so they are forever scrounging for help.
Recently they hired a guy, 42 years old. Seemed to have a decent enough a resume. The guy, literally every day, would come in so zombie drunk he reeked, couldn't really do anything of value until half the day was over, and couldn't be trusted with what amounts to in his job description to not blow the plant up...which made him effectively useless.
My buddy asked him once - why do you do this...what truly are you doing before work? The guy told him when he got home from work, he would line up 6 shots of Cuervo plus one of those combination energy drinks and rubbing alcohol - he would down the shots all in row one right after the other, then chug the rat poison energy drink booze can...then drink beer until he passed out about 7:30 and sleep until maybe midnight, 1am. He would then wake up, and start the entire process over until he left for work.
My buddy then found that he was the only guy out of 8 applicants that passed the marijuana portion of the drug test. They all were eminently more qualified, all with quality work or college experience.
You can lambaste smokers all you want, but you tell me what's worse...booze or weed? My feeling is if booze is legal, then weed should be too. My personal opinion is I'd rather take a smoker any day as a fellow employee over a drunkard. Just don't come in stoned...just like you don't want the guy who works drunk off your ass like the guy in my story.
Buddy of mine used to work for a company in WI in waste water management. A company that is notoriously cheap with wages, so they are forever scrounging for help.
Recently they hired a guy, 42 years old. Seemed to have a decent enough a resume. The guy, literally every day, would come in so zombie drunk he reeked, couldn't really do anything of value until half the day was over, and couldn't be trusted with what amounts to in his job description to not blow the plant up...which made him effectively useless.
My buddy asked him once - why do you do this...what truly are you doing before work? The guy told him when he got home from work, he would line up 6 shots of Cuervo plus one of those combination energy drinks and rubbing alcohol - he would down the shots all in row one right after the other, then chug the rat poison energy drink booze can...then drink beer until he passed out about 7:30 and sleep until maybe midnight, 1am. He would then wake up, and start the entire process over until he left for work.
My buddy then found that he was the only guy out of 8 applicants that passed the marijuana portion of the drug test. They all were eminently more qualified, all with quality work or college experience.
You can lambaste smokers all you want, but you tell me what's worse...booze or weed? My feeling is if booze is legal, then weed should be too. My personal opinion is I'd rather take a smoker any day as a fellow employee over a drunkard. Just don't come in stoned...just like you don't want the guy who works drunk off your ass like the guy in my story.
This makes me want to move to Iowa. Too bad the state has 80% druggies if my poll was right. ALL drug addicts and sellers SHOULD be in jail? I don't want to get run over or shot by some nut that is stoned on drugs. Some of you that don't use drugs, but want it legal? What is wrong with your brain? Do you want people breaking in your house even though you choose to be decent?
Where did this guy come from?
Mr. Barnes is a special kind of paranoid. Me thinks he's on drugs, but they're the ones called "medicine" that a doctor prescribed. Medicine is still drugs, it's dope, it's downers, it's uppers, it's speed, it's every other street-slang term available, but people are never afraid of a prescription as they are of some buds wrapped in paper. If the State has OK'ed it, bottled it, canned it, and sold it, then they relax. God Bless America!
I don't know about you guys but I know more people my dads age, which is 60, that smoke weed then my age and I'm 39. I don't smoke but could care less of others do. Out of my group of 16 that goes on a golf trip together every summer 6 of them smoke weed. 5 in the older generation and 1 my age.
So I'm a criminal too, since I've been man enough to admit I need help sometimes? Maybe you don't know, but our brains are not understood very well and rather than have my life ruined, my doctor does carefully prescribe medication to help me. And guess what, the cops agree with me, not the druggies on the board. I need mine, people don't need to be dopers though.
No, absolutely not. Our elected sociopaths, who probably almost all smoked this plant when they were younger, should sit in their viper's dens in Des Moines and D.C. and decree that all working class stiffs ought to be sent to jail..................for smoking the very same plant they once did. Doing otherwise might upset the very balance of the universe.
You're not a "criminal" in the eyes of the State. But, you are a hypocrite in the eyes of people who know better.
Yeah... you'd be better off just staying out of this whole conversation. You "need yours" but other people don't "need theirs" because the State has decreed that yours is legal and theirs isn't. Were you always this obedient and subjugated, or does the medication you need exacerbate it? Not to mention the blind bias and prejudice you're displaying by insisting you know that anyone who uses hemp and marijuana are also stoners and dopers. What scares me is; there are people in elected offices that are as dumb as you.
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