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Should we be forced by the BOR to play UNI every year?

Good. So how about the Clones abandon the "Big Four" concept and play Drake and UNI home and away, and the Hawkeyes will do what the Hawkeyes decide for themselves.
Doesn't the UI already decide these things? ISU does. Although frankly, the way the administration in Iowa City has been mucked up the past few years, I'd believe almost anything about the decision-making process.

I am not consulted about ISU's scheduling. If I were in charge, I would continue playing UNI and Drake home-and-home. Maybe that's why Jamie doesn't consult me.

Alternatively, I have suggested that the fiasco in Des Moines be made a two-day affair. On the first day, ISU plays one of the majors and Iowa plays the other. On the second day, the majors switch opponents. So everybody plays everybody every year, the Iowa-ISU series remains home-and-home, and Des Moines actually has an attraction that might lure some people to spend a weekend in town.
 
UNI fans (and I am one) love to blame Fran but in reality the worst stretch in Iowa history went 5-5 against UNI's best stretch in history. It's Iowa State that couldn't beat UNI...not even in Ames. yet Iowa gets the blame.

the truth is that we were at the time committed to a new series vs the then-Pac 10 as well as a possible expanded B1G schedule. committing to two games, one in the road, every year was not in our best interest. completely understandable.

that said, I think we SHOULD play UNI every year. top 100 rpi, easy travel, more Iowa fans in the Cedar Valley then UNI. Fran and Jake have become close through CvC and other causes and they like each other. Troy Dannen, who rubbed several the wrong way including Fran, is leaving January 1 for Tulane.

the problem is that UNI hitched their wagon to Drake in this process, and I don't understand why. Drake is private. The other issue is that the Big Four is more financially lucrative for UNI, and they need the revenue.
 
Doesn't the UI already decide these things? ISU does. Although frankly, the way the administration in Iowa City has been mucked up the past few years, I'd believe almost anything about the decision-making process.

I am not consulted about ISU's scheduling. If I were in charge, I would continue playing UNI and Drake home-and-home. Maybe that's why Jamie doesn't consult me.

Alternatively, I have suggested that the fiasco in Des Moines be made a two-day affair. On the first day, ISU plays one of the majors and Iowa plays the other. On the second day, the majors switch opponents. So everybody plays everybody every year, the Iowa-ISU series remains home-and-home, and Des Moines actually has an attraction that might lure some people to spend a weekend in town.

Drive with clockwise force a circular inclined plane into Des Moines! And Drake, the Clones and UNI.
 
No, but we shouldn't need the BOR to compel Iowa to play this game annually. I think its unfortunate Iowa has elected to not play UNI annually. The game would annually provide Iowa with a challenging opponent in the non-conference, especially when played in Cedar Falls.

I would be fine with the Big4 classic, but only if it was a 2 day event where Iowa played UNI and Drake and ISU played Drake and UNI. The way the format is now is a missed opportunity in my opinion. You could potentially get 40,000 fans of the schools combined staying in DSM for a night, going out to eat and attending the basketball games. It would be a fun weekend, Friday and Saturday night games.

So no, I don't think the BOR should be forced to get involved, the UofI should simply agree to play both UNI, ISU and Drake annually, end of story. Some might say an Iowa vs. UNI only benefits UNI, and i think that is false. We shouldn't be worried about losing recruits to UNI, typically we are recruiting from a different pool of players. Furthermore, UNI is a tough opponent, and the atmosphere in Cedar Falls is a good, hostile environment, and would be good preparation for entering the B1G regular season in years we play at their house.

Get the Big 4 to be a two day event, or simply agree to play UNI, ISU and UNI home and home each year. We struggle to get 6k in the arena for a game against an ACC opponent, I can guarantee the attendance would be much greater at Carver if UNI was playing. The game makes sense on so many levels and its shame they went to this short sighted one game format in the Big4 Classic.

I totally agree with this.
 
Fran seems to have a better handle on his emotions the past year...perhaps he should try again. Not suggesting we weren't on the receiving end of some bad calls, but seems a little childish to say we're taking our ball and going home forever after one bad incident, don't you think?
I remember a game up there earlier, where the panther mascot got pretty close to x rated, or at the least excrement rated.
 
It wasn't just Iowa that didn't want to do the home and home with UNI. ISU didn't like it either. Didn't the coach before Hoiberg complain about the UNI game.
 
Power 5's always try to avoid these games because they think it's a no win situation. I think in today's landscape that has changed. North Carolina went up to Cedar Falls, lost, and everyone gave credit to UNI instead of shaming North Carolina. The A10, MWC, WCC, Big East, AAC, and to an extent the MVC, are very good basketball conferences and can compete with the power 5. I would not be opposed to going to Cedar Falls once in a while, it would be a good win for either team.
 
Lao, I'm sure the condescension was unintentional. You think University administration couldn't be improved by introduction of economies, productivity and management found in business? The University of Iowa is pissing millions down the drain. Most of that is tax money either paid directly or indirectly through student loans. Its generating thousands of graduates who ultimately contribute nothing to the general welfare and prosperity.

Although you may find me unqualified to comment on academic matters; I've only got a double major history/philosophy BA, econ MA, military history MFA and a JD.
Ah. Professional student then.
 
It wasn't just Iowa that didn't want to do the home and home with UNI. ISU didn't like it either. Didn't the coach before Hoiberg complain about the UNI game.
No, the coach before Hoiberg was the former UNI coach. He was all for the game. But you are correct that Pollard was all on board for the Des Moines farce. He's a money guy, and going to Cedar Falls isn't financially rewarding.
 
The real reason ISU and Iowa stopped playing at UNI in my opinion was horrible officiating in Cedar Falls for a stretch of 6 years. One time is an anomaly, three or four is a pattern.
 
BOR and Bradstad made up their minds on who's the new president would be, had him do an initial interview a month before the formal interview process. His credentials are fine for a business but not a flagship research university. Has no PhD in anything and no real academic background to lead such a big university. He would be fine for a private college or smaller university but not IA. The hiring process for ISU was better or at least seems more legitimate. This is an off topic subject though.


Funny, the U of I pursued him, he initially had no interest.
 
Don't get me started on what I think of the Board of Regents, and in particular Bruce Rastetter.

No, they shouldn't 'force' any games.

The board of regents has no business, absolutely none, in setting any teams schedules. Zero, zip, zilch.
They need to stay in their lane and actually do the job they are mandated to do. Which they haven't been particularly competent at for a while.
 
Yes, because the only reason kids come to school is because of the President and if he has a Ph D. Am I right?

The President of the school I went to had NOTHING to do with why I went to school there. I went there because their accounting program was strong, their job placement was excellent, and their CPA pass rate was very high.


LMFAO at you people thinking this is the Ivy league. We are the second worst academic school in the BIG 10. As long as the current Pres doesn't mess with the hospital, I could care less if the guy had a 2 year degree from Devry. Some of you think more of Iowa academics than the rest of the world. Lets get real and get off our high horses.

Some of us aren't idiots. Nice to know you didn't attend Iowa.
 
No, the coach before Hoiberg was the former UNI coach. He was all for the game. But you are correct that Pollard was all on board for the Des Moines farce. He's a money guy, and going to Cedar Falls isn't financially rewarding.
OK I got that wrong I thought Wayne Morgan wasn't a fan, so 2 coaches before Hoiberg.
 
The snobbery started with people crapping on our new President. I just said, we aren't as great as some of you think. If it was all about the President, I wouldn't recommend Iowa to anyone under Sally Mason.
The BOR hired Mason.

The current Pres has no experience and lied on his resume in that he made up a fictional job in a non-existent company as his current job. And the BOR still hired him. The BOR is incompetent and should be relieved of their duties.
 
BOR and Bradstad made up their minds on who's the new president would be, had him do an initial interview a month before the formal interview process. His credentials are fine for a business but not a flagship research university. Has no PhD in anything and no real academic background to lead such a big university. He would be fine for a private college or smaller university but not IA. The hiring process for ISU was better or at least seems more legitimate. This is an off topic subject though.
You have no idea what you are talking about. There is no conspiracy. All the universities are starting to do this--a person in academics doesn't know how to run a business. It's actually very smart of the BOR to get a guy who has been successful. The BOR did not have him do an interview beforehand. He came on his own, on his own dime, doing a fact finding to see if he would fit. Any of the other candidates could have done this. He even met with the ISU president on this fact finding mission. In this day an age, if you want a job, you have to do everything you can. You could say he out competed the academicians. I've met him and Sally Mason, and she was fine, but he will be way better. Why don't you meet with him or give him a chance before judging him?
 
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