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So if we win next two do we get double Bye?

we could split the next 2 as long as we beat Michigan and still possibly be the 4 seed.... if OSU splits in their final 2 games vs. Mich and MSU.
Yes. The path to 4 seed is:

Win the last 2 games (I'm down with that).
Beat Michigan, and have OSU just not to 2-0 against MSU and Michigan.
 
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we could split the next 2 as long as we beat Michigan and still possibly be the 4 seed.... if OSU splits in their final 2 games vs. Mich and MSU.
I think Rutgers has to lose a game also. They have the tie breaker with us.
 
Yes. The path to 4 seed is:

Win the last 2 games (I'm down with that).
Beat Michigan, and have OSU just not to 2-0 against MSU and Michigan.
Watched that OSU vs. Nebraska game on Tuesday night. The Buckeyes look like they are dealing with the dreaded February funk. Nebraska brought more intensity and hustle the whole game. Yes, Nebraska is playing inspired BB, but OSU failed to match their energy like Iowa did last week in Lincoln. That's a tough home loss. I don't see OSU winning out.
 
Watched that OSU vs. Nebraska game on Tuesday night. The Buckeyes look like they are dealing with the dreaded February funk. Nebraska brought more intensity and hustle the whole game. Yes, Nebraska is playing inspired BB, but OSU failed to match their energy like Iowa did last week in Lincoln. That's a tough home loss. I don't see OSU winning out.
They look tired. They are feeling the impacts of cramming the postponed games into the final weeks of the season. Their guards just aren't very good outside of the freshman player. And freshmen can be inconsistent. They could certainly bounce back in the NCAA tournament if they just get some rest once this week is over.
 
I do not believe a scenario exists in which Iowa doesn't get the #4 seed if they finish 13-7.

If they lose one of their last 2 it's possible to get the #4 but would need some unlikely help.

If they drop their last 2 they could actually drop as far as #9.
9th would be tough as that would require Indiana beating both Rutgers and @Purdue.
 
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They look tired. They are feeling the impacts of cramming the postponed games into the final weeks of the season. Their guards just aren't very good outside of the freshman player. And freshmen can be inconsistent. They could certainly bounce back in the NCAA tournament if they just get some rest once this week is over.
Didn't they lose early in NCAA last year?
I just don't think they're all that outside of EJ.
 
I do not believe a scenario exists in which Iowa doesn't get the #4 seed if they finish 13-7.

If they lose one of their last 2 it's possible to get the #4 but would need some unlikely help.

If they drop their last 2 they could actually drop as far as #9.
OSU going 1-1 or 0-2 is unlikely?
 
Looking at the standings, it looks like Iowa really needs to win at least one of the last 2. Beating Michigan tomorrow would be ideal since they have the tie-breaker over us, so handing them a 9th loss would be nice. Then get OSU and Rutgers to lose at least 1 more. We have the tie breakers over OSU and MSU, but not over Michigan or Rutgers, if I'm not mistaken.

Lose both of the last 2 and we need a lot of help to get the double bye. That ship will most likely have sailed in this scenario.

Win both and we're golden.
 
I do not believe a scenario exists in which Iowa doesn't get the #4 seed if they finish 13-7.

If they lose one of their last 2 it's possible to get the #4 but would need some unlikely help.

If they drop their last 2 they could actually drop as far as #9.
If Iowa OSU and pu all win out and Il loses out we should be 3rd??
 
OSU going 1-1 or 0-2 is unlikely?
I'll qualify my statement by saying that if that one loss is to Illinois there's still a decent chance at a #4 (need OSU and Rutgers to each lose a game), but if that one loss is to Michigan the #4 becomes dependent on multiple games going the right way (need OSU to lose to MSU but beat Michigan, and Rutgers needs to lose one of their last 2 games).
 
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Watched that OSU vs. Nebraska game on Tuesday night. The Buckeyes look like they are dealing with the dreaded February funk. Nebraska brought more intensity and hustle the whole game. Yes, Nebraska is playing inspired BB, but OSU failed to match their energy like Iowa did last week in Lincoln. That's a tough home loss. I don't see OSU winning out.
I agree regarding OSU. I have seen more of them than I have really wanted to lately, and it seems like the have 2 guys (Liddell and Branham) trying to carry the entire team. Then do have that "funk" look.

As for Nebby, yes they played with energy, but their offense was to have Verge go 1-1 and try to score. Occasionally McGowens would take a turn. The other guys stood around waiting for a chance to grab a rebound. OSU seemed content to spread the floor for Verge to give him plenty of room. Strange offense and stranger defense.
 
I'll qualify my statement by saying that if that one loss is to Illinois there's still a decent chance at a #4 (need OSU to lose a game), but if that one loss is to Michigan the #4 becomes dependent on multiple games going the right way (need OSU to lose to MSU but beat Michigan, and Rutgers needs to lose one of their last 2 games).
Yes, we really need the W tomorrow night.
 
If Iowa OSU and pu all win out and Il loses out we should be 3rd??
That is correct.

I guess my statement should have been "at least a #4" if they finish 13-7.

Of course, a discussion that involves Illinois losing at home to Penn St might as well be about a battle between unicorns and flying turtles.
 
OSU has been playing short-handed, so we should not underestimate them. I agree that we have tougher match up issues with Purdon't, Illannoy and UM's size, than with Wisky and OSU. On the other hand, Wisky and OSU are tough as nails, if they are healthy. Wisky deserved the B1G title, but they have had plenty of luck along the way, including a little more favorable schedule. When you bank in consecutive 3s in the final seconds to beat Purdon't for the championship, you should be very grateful.

It is funny how luck sometimes totally turns when the regular season ends and the post-season begins. Hawks won't have any easy matchups in the BTT, and Fran needs to get off the snide in the post season, which is my main complaint about his tenure at Iowa.

Let's win Thursday and put ourselves in a much better position in both the BTT and the Dance. Fran needs to figure out how to defend the high post feeds between UM's bigs, and not leave Houstan open in the corner for 3s. And keep hitting the boards!
 
That is correct.

I guess my statement should have been "at least a #4" if they finish 13-7.

Of course, a discussion that involves Illinois losing at home to Penn St might as well be about a battle between unicorns and flying turtles.
Kinda like oSU and neb ;)
 
Kinda like oSU and neb ;)
Let's put it this way - If Penn St wins at Illinois 4 days after losing essentially by 30 at home to Nebraska, I'll change my username to whatever you want me to and start several threads proclaiming you HR's most awesomest poster ever.
 
Let's put it this way - If Penn St wins at Illinois 4 days after losing essentially by 30 at home to Nebraska, I'll change my username to whatever you want me to and start several threads proclaiming you HR's most awesomest poster ever.
Seems like no downside to me. Deal.
 
I'll qualify my statement by saying that if that one loss is to Illinois there's still a decent chance at a #4 (need OSU and Rutgers to each lose a game), but if that one loss is to Michigan the #4 becomes dependent on multiple games going the right way (need OSU to lose to MSU but beat Michigan, and Rutgers needs to lose one of their last 2 games).
Welp, Rutgers not cooperating...

So, if Hawks lose one of their last two, they'll need Rutgers to drop a head scratcher at home against Penn St to get the #4.

Guess Hawks just gotta win 'em both. :)
 
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