The argument can be made, that not only are you uneducated, but you are stupid. And this is much more logical and less laughable than your argument. Especially since groupthink is the very fabric for being a magat.
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I think anyone that would posit that it's possible to become less intelligent due to education probably shouldn't be taken seriously.
less intelligent? No. less wise? absolutely. less judgment? absolutely.
Bud Abbott: "Didn't you go to school, stupid?!"
Lou Costello: "Yeah and I came out the same way."
You have a lot of education don't you....
I'm so happy I got a world class education in Iowa in the 80's and early 90's before the State GOP had a chance to dismantle public schools.
Are you suggesting that Iowa has been running without education oversight from this same body?
This is a redundant committee formed by people with an agenda that does not coincide with the publics opinions. You're way out over your skis on this.
i'd think of myself as 'upper middle class' BA/JD (the latter of which of course isn't a 'real' graduate degree).
so what? why do we care about the organizational aspect? they're legislators; they can chop of oversight however htey want. Certainly no worse than environmental permitting in real estate development.
either way, as a legisltive body, if THEY get out over their skis the public can throw the bums out.
Good thing those things weren't mentioned. I think all of your higher education is hampering your abilities.
ZME Science is based in Romania so it's not Americans trying to convince themselves.
I actually posted the article/study as a joke in response to your comments. I think Republicans and Democrats both have their share of intellectuals and people with lesser education. The biggest differences are probably their priorities. I think Republicans are more concerned with financial issues and traditional norms while Democrats are more concerned with inclusion and looking toward the future. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, although with the devotion to Trump by the Republican party is concerning to me since he often represents the opposite of what Republicans have traditionally valued.
I live in Iowa and have children. FFS, you make things so much more complicated than they have to be.
You mean Jimmy Carter's Department of Education. I believe that is who started the Washington meddling in Iowa education. Prior to that we had about a hundred years of republican control in Iowa, minus a couple of years of dem governors.
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This passage makes it sound like the committee's goal is political not educational:
“In his first term, (Rep.) Collins led efforts to dismantle the DEI bureaucracies at the regent institutions and remove political bias from the university presidential selection process,” Grassley said. “I’m eager to see the work he will continue to do as chair of this new committee. A comprehensive review of Iowa’s entire higher education system is long overdue.”
Collins, in the news release, also called for “reforming Iowa’s higher education system.”
“We have a tremendous amount of work to do in restoring Iowans’ confidence in our institutions, controlling costs, and returning the focus of our higher education system away from ideological agendas, and back to the pursuit of academic excellence,” Collins said.
indeed, as i've said before (channeling SP Huntington), american politics is just an ongoing conversation about the appropriate balance at a given time among core values that are inherently intension with each other (eg, liberty v equality, limited government v security, etc.) Neither side's emphasis is wrong, or right, it's just their particular cocktail mix. And, just as you note a legit fear that perhaps modern R's increasingly don't recognize the legitimacy of 'equality' as a core value, so too i worry that D's aren't too big on liberty any more. In both cases, it's a huge long term problem, as the consensus over the universe of values is pretty much the only thing that defines an american.
Really incredibly stupid take. But sure, run with that.
Can you explain your concern about Democrats and liberty?
i'm not sure i'd define the two as being mutually exclusive. but as i said, throw the bums out if you don't like it. for now, they've got the keys to the car, and it's not like it comes with some sort of breathalyzer lock to it when they took the keys.
ill turn back to it but have to hop to a call in a moment...
No but it would be measurable based on “book smarts”. Granted that isn’t everything but I think most people would take the time to access those numbers if they existed and were going to pick a school.
Jizz Hawk you need to pick one screen name and stick with it. Is it Chishawk, or CarolinaHawk? Your DUIs' must have addled your brain.
I believe they are attempting to get the political part out of it. It should just be educational without the politics. I think that's the goal.
Pretty difficult to throw the bums out in Iowa right now. Unfortunately many that would be considered traditional Dems are leaving the state for employment so Iowa is pretty solidly Republican right now.
Sorry to see your boy Gaetz withdrew. Tough day for pedos, I hope you’ll be okay.
And I believe they think there is a political agenda in actual facts of history and science.
You can make any argument you want. But some arguments are stupid.
Let me guess, you are highly educated......or a high school teacher. Thank you for proving my point.
Lol keep posting. Your comments are cracking me up.
It's difficult to argue with a talking point that you heard on AM radio.
Funny, not sure I even have AM radio, but let me guess that you are a leftist and unable to think for yourself.....hence you think conservatives get their opinions from the media. Not the US Constitution, or history........or are you ready for it; the Bible. Nope, I'm perfectly capable of thinking for myself. You should try it sometime.
Curious on how you go about with the ellipsis. Sometimes you do four. Sometimes you do six. Other times it’s just a single period. Oh to be in that mind of yours.
No wonder there seems to be so much confusion these days, half of us seem to be living based on 250-2000 year old information.
If there's one thing we know for sure about Trump and his most loyal followers, it's that they regularly read the U.S. Constitution, the Bible, and have a strong understanding of history. And LOL at anyone who constantly tosses around the word "leftist."
He's using Google to look up "ellipsis" right now.
Well we know the Dems no longer have many liberals left in their party. JFK, Truman, FDR those were liberals that believed in individual freedoms. Now the dems are made up of leftists/Marxists who believe in the State, who want to separate us by racist identity politics. Yes perhaps I should quit calling them leftist and flat call them what they are: Marxists.
I can, and I do. As I mentioned, I got my education in Iowa before the GOP destroyed public education.
Since you seem to think you have a point, tell me. How did the US Department of Education miraculously bring about the fall of Iowa public education in every measurable statistic 45 years after its founding? And you really believe that the State legislators, controlled by increasingly further right representatives, has nothing to do with it? You think that defunding public schools in favor of private, and often, religious schools has done nothing to erode the education that the average Iowa child receives? Tell me how, in any way, any single Democratic principle has eroded public education in Iowa.
