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....so theres some ugly stuff floating around about Mark Perry

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Specifically referenced on the Intermat forums about multiple sexual assault allegations from female athletes....was this public knowledge? Because I have heard zero until today.
 

Comes up on the last couple of pages of this thread.

Read it and kind of wish I hadn't...and they call us the cesspool. To be fair to Perry, it seems like "Mike Parrish" is the one generating most of the talk and he seems to have hit the bottle a bit tonight. Also, he brings the Brands Bros into it saying that they are mandatory reporters and didn't do enough about Perry. He left 3 years ago and all the ladies went with him so that doesn't make any sense. I looked it up on Safesport and it does indeed have a Mark Perry from Tempe but it is under soccer and it says he is ineligible. I think Perry coached tonight.
 
Read it and kind of wish I hadn't...and they call us the cesspool. To be fair to Perry, it seems like "Mike Parrish" is the one generating most of the talk and he seems to have hit the bottle a bit tonight. Also, he brings the Brands Bros into it saying that they are mandatory reporters and didn't do enough about Perry. He left 3 years ago and all the ladies went with him so that doesn't make any sense. I looked it up on Safesport and it does indeed have a Mark Perry from Tempe but it is under soccer and it says he is ineligible. I think Perry coached tonight.
Yeah, he's Dom Parrish's dad.
 
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Comes up on the last couple of pages of this thread.
I read the link as well and did some quick research on your source. This guy seems like a consummate complainer and pot stirring specialist. Let someone else more credible break the story. I’d be surprised if anything comes of it.
 
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Yeah, he's Dom Parrish's dad.

Doesn't change anything about what I posted. You're the lawyer Vak; he asserts that USAW are scared of a lawsuit from Perry if they suspended him. Yet if anything he says is true about Perry being a predator, then that opens of a potential shitstorm for USAW. I don't know Mark Perry or vouch for his character, but the logic here doesn't make sense.
 
I read the link as well and did some quick research on your source. This guy seems like a consummate complainer and pot stirring specialist. Let someone else more credible break the story. I’d be surprised if anything comes of it.

Doesn't change anything about what I posted. You're the lawyer Vak; he asserts that USAW are scared of a lawsuit from Perry if they suspended him. Yet if anything he says is true about Perry being a predator, then that opens of a potential shitstorm for USAW. I don't know Mark Perry or vouch for his character, but the logic here doesn't make sense.
If it had just been Mike Parrish talking about it, I wouldn't have mentioned anything, but then other posters I know as regular, normal unaffiliated people said they had similar info. Either way, if nobody has heard anything, that's fine, he's long gone from the program.

Chief, you'd be surprised at how these things are still handled in different parts of the the professional world. In most corporate settings, if these types of allegations were made the person is put on leave. All too often in other areas, and very notably sports, it gets swept under the rug until the lump under said rug is too massive to ignore.
 
What exactly is a predator? Is that someone who asks girls out and they say yes and then he asks a different girl out who says yes or is it someone who forces girls to go out with him?
 
very troubling and it doesn't get more credible than an athlete's father naming 3 world team members who have filed reports against him.
 
<<Seems odd that if this happened while at HWC that all of the girls would follow him to Sunkist.>>

I can tell you we had no reports of anything like this ever while Perry was with HWC-- zero
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As someone who has participated in Safe Sport and Athlete Protection Training for several years, I would very surprised if USA Wrestling would tolerate this behavior from one of its coaches.
 
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If it had just been Mike Parrish talking about it, I wouldn't have mentioned anything, but then other posters I know as regular, normal unaffiliated people said they had similar info. Either way, if nobody has heard anything, that's fine, he's long gone from the program.

Chief, you'd be surprised at how these things are still handled in different parts of the the professional world. In most corporate settings, if these types of allegations were made the person is put on leave. All too often in other areas, and very notably sports, it gets swept under the rug until the lump under said rug is too massive to ignore.
You do not know how true what you said is, or maybe you really do know but my friend who is retired from the state police said every singles child sexual abuse case he worked that dealt with a school business, church, or charity was initially covered up. I assume any sexual abuse would be treated similarly.
 
As someone who has participated in Safe Sport and Athlete Protection Training for several years, I would very surprised if USA Wrestling would tolerate this behavior from one of its coaches.
Remember USA Gymnastics and Larry Nassar.
 
Read it and kind of wish I hadn't...and they call us the cesspool. To be fair to Perry, it seems like "Mike Parrish" is the one generating most of the talk and he seems to have hit the bottle a bit tonight. Also, he brings the Brands Bros into it saying that they are mandatory reporters and didn't do enough about Perry. He left 3 years ago and all the ladies went with him so that doesn't make any sense. I looked it up on Safesport and it does indeed have a Mark Perry from Tempe but it is under soccer and it says he is ineligible. I think Perry coached tonight.
You're instincts are right, IAChief; there's not much here other than a disgruntled dad. USAW is worried about a lawsuit from Mark becuase of the lack of substance and defamation of character! If there was substance to this, USAW would be all over it and worried about a lawsuit from the victims!
 
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Well I mean it shows what kind of guy Mark Perry is to cheat on his wife
If every man that cheated had to lose his job, there would be a LOT of jobless men, hell there would be a lot of jobless women too, if held to the same standard.

Now, again, what exactly is he doing that makes him unfit for his job? If female wrestlers are 100% willing to enter into that type of relationship, I don’t see the problem. Unless of course there is something in his contract that says he cannot have intimate relations with his wrestlers…
 
If every man that cheated had to lose his job, there would be a LOT of jobless men, hell there would be a lot of jobless women too, if held to the same standard.

Now, again, what exactly is he doing that makes him unfit for his job? If female wrestlers are 100% willing to enter into that type of relationship, I don’t see the problem. Unless of course there is something in his contract that says he cannot have intimate relations with his wrestlers…
So if Tom Brands was sleeping with Spencer Lee, then that’d be okay?
 
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If every man that cheated had to lose his job, there would be a LOT of jobless men, hell there would be a lot of jobless women too, if held to the same standard.

Now, again, what exactly is he doing that makes him unfit for his job? If female wrestlers are 100% willing to enter into that type of relationship, I don’t see the problem. Unless of course there is something in his contract that says he cannot have intimate relations with his wrestlers…
Person in a position of power in a sexual relationship with a person who is in a position to be subordinate to the person of power maybe?
 
So if Tom Brands was sleeping with Spencer Lee, then that’d be okay?
I am sure the school itself has different rules than a freestyle wrestling club would.

But, if there were no rules to govern against it, why would there be an issue if Tom and Spencer were? Mind you, that is admittedly coming from someone so straight, you could use me as a level….

Consenting adults can choose what they want to do, as long as it’s legal(not against any known rules) and doesn’t interfere with the work environment. Even if it were Tom and Spencer.
 
Person in a position of power in a sexual relationship with a person who is in a position to be subordinate to the person of power maybe?
Happens all the time, across a myriad of different work spaces. Unless there are clearly defined rules detailed against it, along with clearly defined punishments, I again do not see this as a Safesports issue.

Mind you, if there are rules against it, he should fully suffer the consequences. If not, as long as any/all involved were 100% willing, I just don’t see it going anywhere.

With that said, yes, it makes him look like an asshole. But, how many people in positions of power aren’t?
 
I am sure the school itself has different rules than a freestyle wrestling club would.

But, if there were no rules to govern against it, why would there be an issue if Tom and Spencer were? Mind you, that is admittedly coming from someone so straight, you could use me as a level….

Consenting adults can choose what they want to do, as long as it’s legal(not against any known rules) and doesn’t interfere with the work environment. Even if it were Tom and Spencer.
I would hope USA Wrestling has some rules against that
 
I would hope USA Wrestling has some rules against that
That is the crux of the argument for me. If they do, Perry has to answer for it regardless of the willingness of all parties involved. Still, the willingness makes a big difference on how far you go with sanctions/punishments…
 
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