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Hate is a strong word. I like "doubting" better. He's back on probation from where I sit.
I'd take 12-0 every year obviously, but I am really starting to question his bowl prep based on the last few bowl games
We need to recruit better. OL should be our strength and Stanford OL/DL blew us out.
KF earned another 5year leash. Hopefully we don't suck as bad as we did from 2010 to 2014
KF earned another 5year leash. Hopefully we don't suck as bad as we did from 2010 to 2014
I don't know doubting, but I think it showed our schedule was pretty light.
I still like KF.
Lomax missing an assignment, a kick return, a fake punt and a pick 6 in fast order was pretty insane. There were a lot of stupid penalties and CJB needed some damn pass coverage. Tackling was atrocious too. It can all be explained by the field not being rye but instead blue grass.
Lomax missing an assignment, a kick return, a fake punt and a pick 6 in fast order was pretty insane. There were a lot of stupid penalties and CJB needed some damn pass coverage. Tackling was atrocious too. It can all be explained by the field not being rye but instead blue grass.
Kirk deserves absolutely zero blame for the last 2 games, nor the previous 5 seasons. But considering we rushed for 48 yards and our O-line looked horrible, can we get rid of whoever is in charge of those 2 aspects?
Too many yo-yoers.
KF has done a solid job. He took a team expected to be 4th in the B1G west to the conference championship game unbeaten. Getting their asses kicked in Pasadena doesn't take that away.
I don't think he's a coaching genius either.
This year in particular, though, he took lesser talent and with the help of a very favorable schedule did something special with them.
KF has done a solid job. He took a team expected to be 4th in the B1G west to the conference championship game unbeaten. Getting their asses kicked in Pasadena doesn't take that away.
I don't think he's a coaching genius either.
This year in particular, though, he took lesser talent and with the help of a very favorable schedule did something special with them.
Are you trying to be serious with your post or is your name Kirk Ferentz?
Yeah, I am. Kirk deserves zero blame for anything in the past 5 seasons that were bad before this season? Are you kidding? Have a little dignity for yourself and stop being a Ferentz jock sniffer.
Tell me, do head coaches have any accountability for anything?
Under your incredibly well thought through theory, where KF deserves zero blame for the previous 5 seasons, does he deserve credit for this season then?
How about we all just admit that Kirk isn't the anti-Christ, but he's a not a saint, either.
As annoying as the uber-haters are, the people that claim he was immaculately conceived and God's gift to football are just as annoying.
The guy is a solid football coach. Excellent at identifying and developing underrated recruits into above-average players, but his gameday coaching, overall recruiting (very few difference makers anywhere on the roster), and ability to get teams ready against elite competition in the last several bowl games is lacking and worthy of criticism.
As annoying as the uber-haters are, the people that claim he was immaculately conceived and God's gift to football are just as annoying.
The guy is a solid football coach. Excellent at identifying and developing underrated recruits into above-average players, but his gameday coaching, overall recruiting (very few difference makers anywhere on the roster), and ability to get teams ready against elite competition in the last several bowl games is lacking and worthy of criticism.
The coaching adjustments for the Oline was pathetic the last 2 games. I don't know how CJ made it through the game.
KF is a great guy but he is a classic coaster. He's the type of guy who only reacts when there is pressure. When the pressures is off you get the look we just saw agsinst Standford and really the look that started to take shape the back half of the schedule after NW. We were starting to regress from the NW game struggling on both sides of the ball with teams we should have steam rolled. We played hard against MSU but we found out they were only slightly better than us and exposed like us against Bama.
We looked as good as I have ever seen us look in an opener against FCS IL State in all 3 phases in a long time because the pressure was on. KF had heard the noise and displeasure loud and clear from all avenues. There's no coincidence we were prepared for once.
My fear is we are back to status quo. It just cannot be status quo if you are going to recruit like we recruit. We do not have enough athletes, size and speed to take anything at all for granted in motivation and preparation.
We looked as good as I have ever seen us look in an opener against FCS IL State in all 3 phases in a long time because the pressure was on. KF had heard the noise and displeasure loud and clear from all avenues. There's no coincidence we were prepared for once.
My fear is we are back to status quo. It just cannot be status quo if you are going to recruit like we recruit. We do not have enough athletes, size and speed to take anything at all for granted in motivation and preparation.
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I still like KF.
Lomax missing an assignment, a kick return, a fake punt and a pick 6 in fast order was pretty insane. There were a lot of stupid penalties and CJB needed some damn pass coverage. Tackling was atrocious too. It can all be explained by the field not being rye but instead blue grass.
agree to a point but the tackling issues can be explained by McCaffery. I have never seen RB with that kind of feet and vision. Ever. Barry Sanders comes to mind, however McCaffery may be better. Him not winning the Heisman is the biggest joke of this CFB season....He single handedly slaughtered our D. Surprised there isnt a few broken ankles on our post game injury report.
I don't think anyone hates him. Everyone understands his limitations. He is an awesome leader for the program and university just not the best game day coach. Hopefully he pulls the plug when he is more on top than asked to leave.
I dont know what i ate yesterday but im burping up a whole lot of old kirk. It does not taste good and i got 8 months again nefore it might get better.
I don't think anyone hates KF. I think that we as fans who want to see our program develop want to see better showings in bowl games. I'm not sure if we are just that outmatched against good teams or our bowl prep needs to be re-evaluted.
If there's that big of a talent gap, then we need to figure out a way to compete with some higher tier recruits. I think most in our fanbase realize that we will always have a core component of developmental, walk on type talent. At the same time, if we can bring 3-4 higher tier guys per year, then maybe that is the difference.
Probably the most concerning for me is that our lines were dominated in both the MSU and Stanford games. I don't expect Iowa to bring in top tier WR's, QB's and other skill position players. I do expect us to be able to bring in high end OL and DL because of the success we've had and our ability to send guys to the NFL at those position groups.
If there's that big of a talent gap, then we need to figure out a way to compete with some higher tier recruits. I think most in our fanbase realize that we will always have a core component of developmental, walk on type talent. At the same time, if we can bring 3-4 higher tier guys per year, then maybe that is the difference.
Probably the most concerning for me is that our lines were dominated in both the MSU and Stanford games. I don't expect Iowa to bring in top tier WR's, QB's and other skill position players. I do expect us to be able to bring in high end OL and DL because of the success we've had and our ability to send guys to the NFL at those position groups.
What the hell does that mean?? That he's arguing w/ himself? Starbrown said something ridiculous and absolutely stupid. I'd love to hear the logic behind it.
I don't hate Ferentz. I hate that hes an average in game coach and below average recruiter. I hate that he's vastly overpaid but gives us mediocre results. I hate that he rarely adjusts but does his straight up vanilla football. Run it up the gut once or twice then throw a 3 yard pass w/ 10 to go for the first. I think the better question would be is, "Why aren't people upset w/ Ferentz after years of this crap? He shouldn't be rebuilding, he's been here for years. And the tackling or lack of it, was embarrassing. Where's the accountability?
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So did you post this after every win we had this year too? If you believe what you're saying then the answer should be yes.......just sayin.
You are either completely ignorant or just plain stupid. No other coach in more than 100 years of Iowa football has won 12 games in a season no one.. Furthermore, Ferentz finished the regular season undefeated - a feat that hasn't happened at Iowa since the early 20th century. He has won B10 Coach of the Year on 4 separate occasions - of the hundreds of coaches in B10 history only Bo Shembechler has won the award more times.
Has he had down years? Yes. But to claim mediocre results after a record setting, award winning season is just plain stupid.
NO he did not.
Stupid argument.
He played 14 games. There are plenty of Iowa coaches in history who have lost 2 or fewer games in a season that would have equaled 12 wins in the modern era.
I know that wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to respond.
I read the same criticisms of Iowa's offense all the time on many message boards, win or lose. Also, I think we all realize that recruiting is (and will always be) a challenge at Iowa regardless of who we have running the program. Signing a consensus Top 45-50 class is rare for us. It shouldn't be. I feel with our facilities and a pro-style offense --one that actually prepares kids for the NFL over those gimmicky B12 offenses-- we should average a consensus Top 35-40 imo.
Generally when the team wins, the length of any thread that criticizes the coaching or recruiting is relegated to just a few responses and quickly dies. No one wants to acknowledge the obvious deficiencies and poor game planning when the team wins, that's human nature. Let's face it, this 12-0 season was 90% based on the cake schedule. The last two games proved that. Now, how does the team (coaches included) bounce back in 2016? Do we maintain and get at least 9-11 wins, or, do we go back to what we fear that we truly are at 7-8 wins?
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Explain exactly why I would post this after every win. I have given Coach credit when it was due. He had adjusted to the game somewhat and wasn't near as predictable as he had been in years past. But as other posters pointed out, he had begun to slip back into vanilla mode. As for "do I believe what I posted", if I didn't, I wouldn't have posted it.
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Wrong, YOU are completely stupid and plain ignorant. What did that undefeated regular season and some BS ass awards mean on the field yesterday??? Exactly, dumbass, NOTHING. Those down years you barely mention can never happen. At least to the extent and w/ the regularity that they have been. You have zero argument and are arguing out of butthurt and not from facts. Instead of being an emotional db, state an actual argument. Losing our last 4 bowl games in embarrassing fashion isn't the issue. It's HOW we lost that is inexcusable. Maybe when you grow up, you'll learn that.
Hayden Fry got blown out of three Rose Bowls and I don't recall anyone hating him. I think we will be back in the thick of it next year although it would be too much to expect another undefeated season.
Yep we should be. Lot to like about Iowa next year. And Kirk has won an elite bowl in 2009 the orange bowl. People sure as hell never seem to bring that up. That was a norm Parker defensive clinic that game. Kirk resume is every bit as good as Hayden's and hopefully he can build on it next year. If e wins ten or more games next year he will have twice as many ten or more wins seasons as Hayden did. And this year will be his fifth top 10 finish in his career.
The "hate" for Ferentz by some fans started way before this season...and it had everything to do with his lack of concern for how sub-par the program had fallen = "That's football."
Losing in the Rose Bowl (even in an embarrassing blowout) should not make him "hated" by anyone....it's how this program bounces back next year that will determine that. We have enough talent returning to keep us in the top 2 of the West with a good shot of making it back to the BTCG. If we back slide to 5-4 or worse then I think the torches and pitch forks will be back out in full force....and rightfully so.
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Maybe, but it will be close on whether we finish in the top 10.
The four playoff teams, Stanford, tOSU, Houston, Miss, Michigan most likely, probably winner of TCU-Oregon will all get plenty of votes....so I'm thinking #11 or #12 with an outside shot at #10.
We were gift wrapped the perfect opponent in 2009. Anyone with an ounce of football knowledge knew Norm Parker would destroy that run oriented team. KF got the easy schedule and was forced to play the only qb that could lead this team.
They assigned Iowa to play in that orange bowl game and played really well. Yes, the schedule was easy but Iowa beat two ranked opponents on the road this year and besides Iowa this year and Ohio state in 2006 with tresses and 2012 and 2013 with urban Meyer which team in the big ten has ran the table? There's very few if any.
