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The Death of Lazarus​

11 Now a man named Lazarus was sick. He was from Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 (This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.) 3 So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.”

4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.” 5 Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. 6 So when he heard that Lazarus was sick, he stayed where he was two more days, 7 and then he said to his disciples, “Let us go back to Judea.”

8 “But Rabbi,” they said, “a short while ago the Jews there tried to stone you, and yet you are going back?”

9 Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours of daylight? Anyone who walks in the daytime will not stumble, for they see by this world’s light. 10 It is when a person walks at night that they stumble, for they have no light.”

11 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”

12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”

16 Then Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]) said to the rest of the disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with him.”


You will fall asleep.
This is the correct answer.
Jesus talked about a resurrection of the dead.( Matthew 5:28,29)

The Apostle Paul said in Acts 24:15" I have hope toward God , which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."
Side note: Doesn't it seem strange to you that if Lazarus did indeed go to heaven isn't it logical that he would have said something about it once Jesus brought him back to life?
Also if you remember another scripture Jesus said at John 3:13" Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven, but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of Man."
If this is true what became of all the faithful prophets of old like Moses, King David, Joshua, Job, Noah, Daniel, Hezekiah, Samuel ,Jeremiah, Isaiah etc? If they aren't in heaven as Jesus said then where are they?
Answer...In the grave. Waiting to be resurrected.
 
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This is the correct answer.
Jesus talked about a resurrection of the dead.
As a side point- If heaven was real why would Jesus pull Lazarus out of heaven to return to earth?
Reason: Jesus and the disciples and later the apostles woke people from death as tho they were sleeping.
and the Apostle Paul said in Acts 24:15" I have hope toward God , which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."
Somebody has studied their Bible.
Side note #2
Hell was created by the Roman Catholics to keep people in line who didn't know how to read. Heaven is the return of Eden.
 
I got into a discussion about heaven with a religious coworker a while back. He goes to church at least twice per week, tithes his income, does mission work etc... and I asked him if he believed that his efforts would get him extra rewards in heaven. I used the example of someone who is Christian, believes in God, goes to church maybe a couple of times per year, doesn't write $20k+ checks to the church every year, and generally leads a good life vs him and his family. He is adamant that the more devout followers will basically be the equivalent of upper class in heaven. He backs his belief with bible verses of course. The part time Christians will be sweeping his floors in heaven.
If he believes in purgatory, makes a bit of sense. Beyond that pretty far fetched.
 
Somebody has studied their Bible.
Side note #2
Hell was created by the Roman Catholics to keep people in line who didn't know how to read. Heaven is the return of Eden.

Jesus talked about Hell 30 times.

Over and over again.

Here's one:


 
Somebody has studied their Bible.
Side note #2
Hell was created by the Roman Catholics to keep people in line who didn't know how to read. Heaven is the return of Eden.
Lazarus was indeed dead, not merely asleep. The Greek text in John 11:14, where Jesus says, "Lazarus has died," uses the word "ἀπέθανεν" (apethanen), which unequivocally means "to die." There is no indication in the original Greek text that Lazarus was merely asleep.

The assertion that Jesus cruelly "pulled back" Lazarus from Heaven is not supported by Christian theology. Instead, the story of Lazarus is seen as a demonstration of Jesus' power over death, a foreshadowing of His own resurrection, and a sign of God's compassion and the promise of resurrection for believers. Lazarus' return to life was an act of mercy and a profound illustration of Christ's authority over life and death. It is not viewed as cruel but rather as a powerful affirmation of the hope of eternal life for those who believe in Jesus.

Also, Hell is not something created by the Roman Catholic Church, it is deeply rooted in Christian theology and appears in the teachings of Jesus and throughout the New Testament. Hell is understood as a place of separation from God and eternal separation from His presence, which is described in various passages in the Bible, including the words of Jesus. The idea that Hell was invented to control people who couldn't read is not accurate and doesn't align with the historical development of Christian doctrine. Furthermore, Heaven is the ultimate state of restored harmony and communion with God.
 
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Alcohol in Heaven or the New Earth is not explicitly addressed in the Bible. In fact, it does not provide detailed descriptions of the specific foods or beverages available in the afterlife. Some Christians believe there will be no need or desire for alcohol in the presence of God, while others think there could be a place for enjoyment and celebration, including the consumption of alcoholic beverages, in a responsible and Godly manner. Man, I'm pretty much open to all amazing possibilities. God knows the nature of the human heart and will be able to fulfil said desires better than anything we could imagine.

I read Matthew Perry's book and it was interesting that nothing he tried, alcohol, pills, fame, etc. could ever truly fill the emptiness he felt. It's my belief God is the only thing that can truly fulfill us; everything else is fleeting. It's human nature. I call it the "New Car Smell" syndrome--eventually it [whatever your "it" is] fades away and you have to replace it with something else.
My love for God has faded away and I have replaced it with beer, which has been quite fulfilling. Is beer now my god? Or was God always beer?
 
My love for God faded away and I have replaced it with beer, which has been quite fulfilling. Is beer now my god? Or was God always beer?
It seems you've discovered a divine connection with beer! Beer may be a source of enjoyment, but it doesn't necessarily equate to replacing God. You can still appreciate the simple pleasures of life while exploring your spirituality in your own unique way. Cheers to a multifaceted journey! 🍻😇

Or in simpler terms:

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Jesus talked about Hell 30 times.

Over and over again.

Here's one:


This is the problem. so many times, people will quote one verse from the Bible and not the full context of the Chapter. I see it with news articles, video clips, etc. in today's world. People will take one line and make it sound like that's the whole story, when there is a whole other thing that is trying to be said.
 
Lazarus was indeed dead, not merely asleep. The Greek text in John 11:14, where Jesus says, "Lazarus has died," uses the word "ἀπέθανεν" (apethanen), which unequivocally means "to die." There is no indication in the original Greek text that Lazarus was merely asleep.

The assertion that Jesus cruelly "pulled back" Lazarus from Heaven is not supported by Christian theology. Instead, the story of Lazarus is seen as a demonstration of Jesus' power over death, a foreshadowing of His own resurrection, and a sign of God's compassion and the promise of resurrection for believers. Lazarus' return to life was an act of mercy and a profound illustration of Christ's authority over life and death. It is not viewed as cruel but rather as a powerful affirmation of the hope of eternal life for those who believe in Jesus.

Also, Hell is not something created by the Roman Catholic Church, it is deeply rooted in Christian theology and appears in the teachings of Jesus and throughout the New Testament. Hell is understood as a place of separation from God and eternal separation from His presence, which is described in various passages in the Bible, including the words of Jesus. The idea that Hell was invented to control people who couldn't read is not accurate and doesn't align with the historical development of Christian doctrine. Furthermore, Heaven is the ultimate state of restored harmony and communion with God.

Great post.

The teachings on Hell come from one person and that's Jesus.

Half the Parables were about Heaven and Hell.

Here's the Parable of the Net:


Matthew 13:47-50​

The Parable of the Net​


“Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away.

This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
 
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This is the problem. so many times, people will quote one verse from the Bible and not the full context of the Chapter. I see it with news articles, video clips, etc. in today's world. People will take one line and make it sound like that's the whole story, when there is a whole other thing that is trying to be said.

One verse?

Jesus talked about Hell over and over again.

 
This is the problem. so many times, people will quote one verse from the Bible and not the full context of the Chapter. I see it with news articles, video clips, etc. in today's world. People will take one line and make it sound like that's the whole story, when there is a whole other thing that is trying to be said.
Yup (in a general sense)! And the case of politics, it's the weaponization of the Bible.
 
I’m curious what verses say this.

I’m a pretty devout Christian and I don’t believe any of this is true.

Somebody has studied their Bible.
Side note #2
Hell was created by the Roman Catholics to keep people in line who didn't know how to read. Heaven is the return of Eden.
As Jesus said to a scribe who asked him what the two greatest commandments were and he successfully answered, " you are not far from the Kingdom of God. :)(Mark 12:34)

Let's take it a step further about that Paradisaic promise.
Revelation 21:4" And He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more , neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore, The former things have passed away".
Ask yourself would heaven have any of those conditions? Death, Pain or tears?
No those are things associated with the earth and the reality of sin and death we now face. In that new world death and pain and tears will be wiped away.
Now I do believe in heaven of course, however not all faithful mankind will go there.
Jesus referred to that number as a "little flock"(Luke 12:32)
Then he said I have" other sheep" which are not of this fold.(John 10:16)
Two groups of people, two different futures.
The first group or little flock are those who would be chosen by God to rule with Christ in heaven.(Revelation 5:9,10) They are "to rule as Kings over the earth."
The bible numbers these individuals as 144,000.( Revelation 7:4; Revelation 14:1)
If they are rule as kings over the earth they would need subjects no?
This is where the other sheep come in. That would be an unknown larger number of faithful humans who have the hope of living forever on earth.(Revelation 7:14-17)
The bibles message is actually very clear to understand if you take the time to look into it
 
Great post.

The teachings on Hell come from one person and that's Jesus.

Half the Parables were about Heaven and Hell.

Here's the Parable of the Net:


Matthew 13:47-50​

The Parable of the Net​


“Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away.

This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Jesus wrote that? Or some guy 50 years after Jesus died?

According to early church tradition, originating with Papias of Hierapolis (c. 60–130 AD),[10] the gospel was written by Matthew the companion of Jesus, but this presents numerous problems.[9] Most modern scholars hold that it was written anonymously[8] in the last quarter of the first century by a male Jew who stood on the margin between traditional and nontraditional Jewish values and who was familiar with technical legal aspects of scripture being debated in his time.[11][12][note 2]

The majority of scholars believe that Mark was the first gospel to be composed and that Matthew and Luke both drew upon it as a major source for their works.[13][14] The author did not simply copy Mark but used it as a base, emphasizing Jesus's place in the Jewish tradition and including details not found in Mark.[15] Writing in a polished Semitic "synagogue Greek", he drew on the Gospel of Mark as a source, plus a hypothetical collection of sayings known as the Q source (material shared with Luke but not with Mark) and hypothetical material unique to his own community, called the M source or "Special Matthew."[16][17] Matthew has 600 verses in common with Mark, which is a book of only 661 verses. There is approximately an additional 220 verses shared by Matthew and Luke but not found in Mark, from a second source, a hypothetical collection of sayings to which scholars give the name Quelle ('source' in the German language), or the Q source.[18] This view, known as the two-source hypothesis (Mark and Q), allows for a further body of tradition known as "Special Matthew", or the M source, meaning material unique to Matthew. This may represent a separate source, or it may come from the author's church, or he may have composed these verses himself.[14] The author also had the Greek scriptures at his disposal, both as book-scrolls (Greek translations of Isaiah, the Psalms etc.) and in the form of "testimony collections" (collections of excerpts), and the oral stories of his community.[19]


Wikipedia I know.
 
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Fine. Point still stands. I want to be with them. We all step into the fire together.

Just for the record, I don’t believe in any of that. I believe my “eternity” will be an awful lot like what the Babylonian Empire and the Roman Empire and the Middle Ages and the Industrial Revolution were like for me. Pretty much just like anything prior to August 1965.
 
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