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So with wind and solar getting axed to death

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Any power production not being used still has a cost to the end user. The economy of scale nuclear provides is it's selling point, but also it's worst quality for wider use. That said trying to shove in the least compatible type of generation isn't a solution but counterproductive in the most extreme ways. Growth in power production has gone to smaller increments that work together in a complementary way. A large coal or nuclear plant is antagonistic to grid dynamics unless one is replacing the other.

Populations want solutions as long as they aren't in their own backyard. The single point polution source massive plants represent don't make people comfortable, but technology like wind and solar gets widely opined on because it isn't out of sight out of mind. An interstate is wonderful to live near when one wants to get somewhere, but few consider a backyard that overlooks one prime real estate. The same dilemma applies when evaluating types of generation.
Well there certainly are NIMBY's, but that's true with anything. Personally, I find wind turbines to be relaxing to watch. Kind of like a fish tank. I certainly don't want to live within sight of a coal power station. I don't mind nuclear. I live within the evacuation zone of a nuclear plant and you don't even know it's there. I'm also not a fan of using up $30k/acre farm land for solar farms, I agree with you there but there are other places (with their own list of drawbacks) that make more sense. One of my favorites are parking lots but that would require significant public investment.

Until (if) fusion power becomes viable, there isn't one solution that is the answer to all of this. Every form of power generation has significant drawbacks but as long as we don't want to live like it's the early 19th century we need to come to terms with them. Right now, climate change is a clear and present danger that needs to be dealt with so the priority for which energy generating options we use needs to be made with climate impacts as a primary consideration.
 
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and the solar arrays were planned for rural Nevada. There’s nothing in those places.

Tell that to the people that live next to all those planned solar farms.

I live in this community, and they are fighting it with everything they have.
 
Tell that to the people that live next to all those planned solar farms.

I live in this community, and they are fighting it with everything they have.
Why? Are they proposed in residential areas?
 
Why? Are they proposed in residential areas?

Amount of water used is a big part.

Yes you can point to all the facts stating it is not anymore than other utilities, but theses farms are not being built to provide electricity locally.

Using a resource like water in a desert where 50,000 people already live and depend on is short sighted.

Then add in that the people that live here many of use the desert they want to take away for recreation.

Would you be ok with going in and taking over the areas you use for recreation to create hundreds of acres of solar panels?
 
Amount of water used is a big part.

Yes you can point to all the facts stating it is not anymore than other utilities, but theses farms are not being built to provide electricity locally.

Using a resource like water in a desert where 50,000 people already live and depend on is short sighted.

Then add in that the people that live here many of use the desert they want to take away for recreation.

Would you be ok with going in and taking over the areas you use for recreation to create hundreds of acres of solar panels?
If that area needs the extra electricity, what other options are there?
 
Amount of water used is a big part.

Yes you can point to all the facts stating it is not anymore than other utilities, but theses farms are not being built to provide electricity locally.

Using a resource like water in a desert where 50,000 people already live and depend on is short sighted.

Then add in that the people that live here many of use the desert they want to take away for recreation.

Would you be ok with going in and taking over the areas you use for recreation to create hundreds of acres of solar panels?
is this happening on publicly-owned or privately-owned land?
 
If that area needs the extra electricity, what other options are there?

It is not being used locally. It is mostly being sent to California.

There is over 18,000 square miles in this county..,most of it uninhabited.

Why do they need to build right next to the only decent sized community and depend on the same water that the 45,000 or so people that live here also depend on?

The only ones that have gotten started are in Clark County, but that is a matter of a line on a map and still using the same water. I see water trucks pull up in town and pull water all day long, and then drive back to the farms.
 
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It is not being used locally. It is mostly being sent to California.

There is over 18,000 square miles in this county..,most of it uninhabited.

Why do they need to build right next to the only decent sized community and depend on the same water that the 45,000 or so people that live here also depend on?

The only ones that have gotten started are in Clark County, but that is a matter of a line on a map and still using the same water. I see water trucks pull up in town and pull water all day long, and then drive back to the farms.
Nevada has solicited industrial development and there are 30 million sqft of new manufacturing capacity scheduled to be built.

There’s going to be significant water and energy needs. People in the state voted for it.

 
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