Uh, no it has not. Big data actually proves that climate change is a hoax. To think that climates should not change, that is what idiots think.
South Carolinians Still Think Global Warming is a Hoax
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Uh, no it has not. Big data actually proves that climate change is a hoax. To think that climates should not change, that is what idiots think.
Is one the good GW that we don't have to worry about and the other the bad GW that's a hoax?
Just by asking your question you showed your ignorance and your bias.
Global warming is real. As it happens, most is due to man's actions. But even if it were due to other causes, it would still be happening, it would still be extremely dangerous, and it would still require much more effective action than we are taking - or even promising to take.
I saw an article a day or 2 ago that said that with the latest national promises (mainly from India) the current projection for warming is 2.7 degrees C this century. Down from 3.1 C prior to these new commitments. 2.7 C is 4.9 F for those who care.
That's still extremely worrying for at least 3 reasons:
First, these are voluntary commitments and, outside of Germany and maybe a few other minor examples, most nations fall short of meeting their voluntary commitments.
Second, 2.7 degrees is still a big chunk above the 2.0 degrees that the scientific consensus has pegged as being be as high as we can allow it to get without drastic consequences. [There will still be drastic consequences in many areas of the world, but survival probably isn't at risk.]
Third, this is still the conservative IPCC-consensus kind of estimate. The odds of it being worse are fairly high and the consequences of it being worse are quite scary.
For those (like me) who may wonder where the 2.0 C number came from and whether it is set in stone somehow, the answer is a little squishy. A number of very serious things are expected to happen at or near that point. Two of those are 1) the collapse of vast elements of the food chain due, among other things, to ocean acidification, and 2) warming-driven release of huge amounts of methane causing a positive and accelerating feedback loop - methane being about 100 times more potent at warming than CO2 in the short term.
So, is 2.0 C where those things happen? Who knows? But that's the best guess at the moment that most scientists believe will keep us from crossing those dangerous tipping points on food and methane. Needless to say, we are already seeing harm to the food chain and the release of methane, and we are only halfway to that 2.0 C point. Plus, even if we stopped accelerating CO2 release into the atmosphere, some additional warming is baked in.
Showing my ignorance? Like automatically bowing down to a group that has historically been the biggest tyrant the world has ever known? Look, I agree that the world is probably warming. Where I have an issue is when someone tells me that it's my fault and that they need to take away my liberties to fix it. You'll pardon me if that raises a red flag or two.
I know, we've been down this road many times, and I've given examples of the liberties I've lost due to the global warming craze. I also pointed out how the government is getting stronger, and people connected to the government are making hundreds of billions of dollars off all this madness. None of this raises a red flag for you?
I'm afraid you'll need to go down that road again; I'm not inclined to grant your baseline or your premise.
Not in the least. In fact there's no Irony in my statement whatsoever. Only the willfully ignorant would thing otherwise.
Like being unable to buy 100W incandescent light bulbs? That kind of "liberty"?
Yes it does, and you certainly appear to be one of the worst. Every comment you have made in it has further demonstrated your sheer ignorance on the topic.
So we have this:
The 2015 Atlantic hurricane season may be one of the least active in decades, according to an initial forecast issued Thursday by Colorado State University.
The early outlook released April 9 calls for seven named storms, including three hurricanes, one of which is predicted to attain major hurricane status (Category 3 or stronger on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale).
This is well below the 30-year average of 12 named storms, six hurricanes, and three major hurricanes
Yet the all knowing scientists claim that GW\CC causes more severe weather:
Scientists have found support for the controversial idea that global warming is causing more frequent and destructive hurricanes, a subject that has been hotly debated during the past decade.
So is it only GW\CC when it fits their ideals? Is it a let's see how this year goes thing?
The 2015 Atlantic hurricane season may be one of the least active in decades, according to an initial forecast issued Thursday by Colorado State University.
The early outlook released April 9 calls for seven named storms, including three hurricanes, one of which is predicted to attain major hurricane status (Category 3 or stronger on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale).
This is well below the 30-year average of 12 named storms, six hurricanes, and three major hurricanes
Yet the all knowing scientists claim that GW\CC causes more severe weather:
Scientists have found support for the controversial idea that global warming is causing more frequent and destructive hurricanes, a subject that has been hotly debated during the past decade.
So is it only GW\CC when it fits their ideals? Is it a let's see how this year goes thing?
This is hilarious! Mr. Copy and Paste, who has never demonstrated an ability to articulate his own thoughts, except for derogatory comments to others, is calling someone else ignorant.
They are cool cats with a great insight on our world and make so much sense through satire. Love 'em!
And what you conveniently leave out is they voted against it as that spending bill was pork-laden with billions of dollars going to things completely unrelated to Hurricane Sandy. All of the Congressmen were for a bill for Sandy aid, but not for everything else that others tried to add to the bill
Shhhhh, that doesn't fit the narrative. Must toe the party line at all costs.
So, millennial flooding in SC is a "fact", huh? You care to share the data set that confirms this "fact" with the rest of us?
You can always find cover stories and unrelated funding items if you look for them. And every once in a while those cover stories and unrelated funding items actually make sense. But in this case it came across at the time as BS, and still does.
My word choice is a pretty stupid thing to to get your knickers in a twist about. But I was merely repeating something I read. What difference does it make if it's a centennial storm instead of a millennial storm?
Try to focus on what's important, if you can.
You're not allowed to buy a car or a house?!?! Damn...where did you move to? Or are things just going really badly? T's and P's in either case.
Per your own post, due to the El Nino this year we EXPECTED only 7 named systems in the Atlantic basin...
We ACTUALLY have 10 already. A 'normal' El Nino year, in year we 'expected' about 2/3 that many storms.
In a 'normal Non-El Nino year', we generally do not see the 10th and 11th storm systems until October 19th and late November, respectively; thus, we are having a 'normal hurricane activity' year, during an El Nino which should be producing fewer storms.
So, yes...you can certainly make the argument that overall warming may be causing more hurricanes (this is certainly the case in the Pacific, where the number of storms is hyperactive this year: 21 systems vs. the nominal year of 16. However, this is expected, because El Nino creates warmer Pacific waters which directly impacts the number of storms, irrespective of any overall climate warming activity).
Only a dumb person who lacked the intelligence to combine simple math, science and geography skills would ask that question.
There are 3.806 million square miles in the United States. Statistically speaking, a total area 38,060 square miles will be in the vicinity of a 100 yr flood, in any given year. The entire state of South Carolina is 32,080 square miles.
If you need more help than that, I can see if my 12 year old nephew is willing to tutor you.
The biggest problem I see arising around climate change/global warming/ecological doom is that the entire thing is becoming institutionalized. Just like government, medicine, religion, and anything else of substance where human lives are in the balance, these things have become livelihoods and perpetual paychecks for people. So, their existence will now remain intact for the self-preservation of the institution. Whether unintentional or unwittingly, the Climate Change issue is a cash cow. So, the likelihood of the Earth's conditions being "changed" or "stopped" in our favor is going to be coincidental at best now. You're not going to convince enough people to accept it instinctively because far too many depend on it to survive.
If the universe/planet/nature/God wants the human species gone, we're gone. We cannot opt-out of that. We stepped outside of the food chain, for the most part. That's actually what's probably contributed more to our affecting the imbalance of the atmosphere- there's too many of us!
If the universe/planet/nature/God wants the human species gone, we're gone. We cannot opt-out of that. We stepped outside of the food chain, for the most part. That's actually what's probably contributed more to our affecting the imbalance of the atmosphere- there's too many of us!
Then why is this the lowest in decades if GW\CC causes it and the scientists say that GW\CC is going up?
Of course it's complicated. If it were simple, it would be too easy to see through the ruse.
Continuing to focus on what is not the important issue and then illustrating that you don't understand what the terms mean to begin with.
Please go back to the shallow end.
Sorry. While there is truth in some of the details you raise, the biggest problem was, is, and will continue to be that we are engineering catastrophic climate and climate-related problems and doing way too little to address them.
