Stocks continue to fall due to lack of job creation...

[MemorialRedWarrior]

Only because of the report of the Fed not raising interest rates. It's artificial, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Precisely. The economy is not recovering in a way that is sustainable. It is taking advantage of the continuing lowering of the Feds rates.
The economy if truly as strong as some would wish to argue, would not need to do this. I'll take the good news where I can get it. I don't see this as being anything more than what many have already forecast.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Precisely. The economy is not recovering in a way that is sustainable. It is taking advantage of the continuing lowering of the Feds rates.
The economy if truly as strong as some would wish to argue, would not need to do this. I'll take the good news where I can get it. I don't see this as being anything more than what many have already forecast.

SHHHHHH...we need to stop talking to ourselves.

 

[MemorialRedWarrior]

SHHHHHH...we need to stop talking to ourselves.

 

[markfromj]

Only because of the report of the Fed not raising interest rates. It's artificial, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

No. Most of the move up happened before this week's "not raising rates" report.

However, your general theme of "because of the fed" is correct. There will be hell to pay eventually.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

No. Most of the move up happened before this week's "not raising rates" report.

However, your general theme of "because of the fed" is correct. There will be hell to pay eventually.

The reports of not raising the rates have been going on for a month or so now Mark. The narrative is that we won't see it this year, despite the Fed keeping the option open.

The economy is rolling on a mountain of debt. If they raised rates, it would be very bad. The Fed is stuck between a rock and a hard place. We be f'd.

 

[Funky Bunch]

The reports of not raising the rates have been going on for a month or so now Mark. The narrative is that we won't see it this year, despite the Fed keeping the option open.

The economy is rolling on a mountain of debt. If they raised rates, it would be very bad. The Fed is stuck between a rock and a hard place. We be f'd.

The consensus is that rates will be raised in 2 weeks. Are we still f'ed? Why isn't the market tanking yet?

 

[HawktimusPrime]

The consensus is that rates will be raised in 2 weeks. Are we still f'ed? Why isn't the market tanking yet?

That's been the consensus all year long. It won't happen, it can't happen, because the economy is propped up on being a zero interest economy.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

The consensus is that rates will be raised in 2 weeks. Are we still f'ed? Why isn't the market tanking yet?

To answer your question, because it's Christmas season for one, and two the interest rates haven't went up. Few people actually believe that they will raise rates.

 

[Funky Bunch]

A drop is a drop, and it has dropped triple digits since. Job reports are miserable, there is already talk the Fed is reconsidering raising rates in December, and China, Japan, Europe, etc.are still in the tank also. Somebody showed the 2,000 pt loss in the past 3 months. Check it out.

The Dow is up exactly 2000 points since you made this post 2 months ago. Maybe the people who hacked the Dow are manipulating this.

 

[Funky Bunch]

To answer your question, because it's Christmas season for one, and two the interest rates haven't went up. Few people actually believe that they will raise rates.

Few people aren't the ones that matter. Investors believe they will be raised in 2 weeks.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

The Dow is up exactly 2000 points since you made this post 2 months ago. Maybe the people who hacked the Dow are manipulating this.

Joke all you want, but the fact that they decided not to raise the rate is the reason it went back to where it was. If they seriously ever do raise the rates, watch for the fall. We are in a bubble right now, and though you may wish not to believe that,.......it's true.

Jokers like you were saying the exact same thing before 2008 happened.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Few people aren't the ones that matter. Investors believe they will be raised in 2 weeks.

Do they? Have you talked to them? They believed that last time also.

 

[cigaretteman]

Joke all you want, but the fact that they decided not to raise the rate is the reason it went back to where it was. If they seriously ever do raise the rates, watch for the fall. We are in a bubble right now, and though you may wish not to believe that,.......it's true.

Jokers like you were saying the exact same thing before 2008 happened.

And 2008 had nothing to do with the phony dire situation jokers like you imagine we're in right now. No matter how many times you have been proved wrong, you never can face reality and admit the truth. Kind of sad really,

 

[HawktimusPrime]

And 2008 had nothing to do with the phony dire situation jokers like you imagine we're in right now. No matter how many times you have been proved wrong, you never can face reality and admit the truth. Kind of sad really,

Aren't you the same guy that said Schiff wasn't correct about 2008? Yes 2008 has everything to do with this situation. They put a bandaid on a severed limb and expected it to correct the damage. Don't call someone wrong when you are clearly wrong about this type of thing all of the time. Let me know when those rate increases happen.

 

[Funky Bunch]

Joke all you want, but the fact that they decided not to raise the rate is the reason it went back to where it was. If they seriously ever do raise the rates, watch for the fall. We are in a bubble right now, and though you may wish not to believe that,.......it's true.

Jokers like you were saying the exact same thing before 2008 happened.

My 401k really doesn't care why its tripled since 2008.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

My 401k really doesn't care why its tripled since 2008.

Good to hear, will it care when the economy collapses?

 

[joelbc1]

To answer your question, because it's Christmas season for one, and two the interest rates haven't went up. Few people actually believe that they will raise rates.

Hawktiprimus......You sound like those sports show pundits who have said for the last 6 weeks Iowa's football team is going to lose.....Well, eventually they are gonna be right....Keep on hoping for a financial disaster....sooner or later we are gonna have one.

 

[Funky Bunch]

Good to hear, will it care when the economy collapses?

I can move funds on a daily basis. People who have sat out the last 7 years are the real losers.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

I can move funds on a daily basis. People who have sat out the last 7 years are the real losers.

Bubbles......pop.

 

[dgordo]

Bubbles......pop.

if the market declined by 50% tomorrow everyone who has been fully invested since 2009 would be better off than someone waiting for the next collapse in a euro pacific fund.

 

[Funky Bunch]

 

[cigaretteman]

Where has RedWarrior been lately anyhow? Haven't seem him around in a while.

 

[86Hawkeye]

It' s not a one day drop you moron, the stocks have been dropping much more then they have been falling. It dropped yesterday also by the way genius. Again, if the Fed is afraid to raise interest rates, even at a rate such as .25%, then you have a serious problem.

Explain to me why not raising interest rates isn't a problem.

The market is flat this year.

 

[MitchL]

The market is flat this year.

"Prime" is usually a very angry poster. If you even slightly disagree with him... the personal attacks and name-calling follow. He's usually proven wrong and then chases another thread with the usual vitrol.
If you doubt me... search the political threads as proof.