Stoll Pin
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Probably not the wisest thing to do. No malicious intent or anything silly, but probably not a good idea regardless.
Not smart...Lucky the ref wasn't into calling much. Makes me miss last week's ref. Should have been a lot more stall calls...on both teams.
If the ref considered it inappropriate and felt threatened, Brands may have to resign....
Obviously possessed by Carver.
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Judo or jiu jitsu?
Judo = throws
Jiu Jitsu = fall on back and try to submit opponent on the ground. I'm generalizing but most Jiu Jitsu guys are terrible on their feet.
12 years from now it will come out ...
Hey Sam, how is the recovery going?
Looks like things are going great!
Nice for him to bail out some lackluster performances from most of the lineup tonight.
Looks like things are going great!
Nice for him to bail out some lackluster performances from most of the lineup tonight.
This was one of the worst refs I've seen for an Iowa match at Carver as far as pushing for more action. His lack of stalling calls and lack of stalemate calls made this one of the most boring Iowa duals I've ever seen. Stoll gave us excitement at the end, but the only other match with a lot of good action was 165 as Imar is nearly always entertaining. Young didn't back down and got into lots of shots and scrambles, but he was just overmatched by one of the top college wrestlers in the country. (For those of you giving Young a poor grade, you are grading the performance of a redshirt freshman against a senior 2 time NCAA champ, 3 time finalist. Young didn't roll over and count the lights - he fought and scrambled and gave a ton of effort. If 125-141 had wrestled with that reckless abandon, maybe we'd have won a couple of those matches.)
The referee was consistent for the most part, but not making stall and stalemate calls for more action played into the style of the illinois wrestlers and hurt Iowa. At 149 and 157, Illinois wrestlers did a decent job circling and keeping their distance instead of backing up making it tougher to argue for stall calls, but 174 was another story. The lack of stall calls easily cost Gunther a major or worse (If we'd have had Curt Frost again like against Rider, he'd have DQ'd the Illinois 174 pounder for backing out of bounds and standing out of bounds for extended periods without trying to work his way back in). I'd liked to have seen a lot more stalemates when leg riding, especially with a figure 4 on the leg. He allowed them to ride with legs in indefinitely and run out the clock in multiple periods. That cost Bowman in his match as the guy had him flat with the leg in and just laid on top of him for most of the 3rd period to end the match. Same thing happened at 125 for a couple periods I think. To be fair, the ref let Sorensen and Kemerer ride with their claw rides indefinitely too - probably should have had some stalemates in those matches too, but it likely wouldn't have changed the outcome of those matches.
At least they were off to the side and not riding parallel. Turk should have been called more for stalling as well as his guy took most of the shots. But yea, 174 was just a badly officiated match...especially when the guy stood up straight backing out of bounds. Saw that in a few matches in Vegas. If you have Flo, check out the Monday/Berger match...Berger should have been called a few times. Ref called a stall when it should have been fleeing the mat.
I don't think there is a fleeing call in college, just high school and below.
Berger was gifted that match with the cautions, lack of stalls called and iffy escape. Not a stellar day for him. As the #1 seed he had to score late in the 3rd period to win in OT in 3 straight matches before reaching the semis.
He tossed Myers from Missouri but Sam is a heck of a lot bigger and better at throws.
Had to wake that official up he seem to be out of position all night and missed the fall three times before he did actually call it.
and that's another thread we need to start. How many times two (2) refs are out of position during a match. I mean how can that be.
I think he knew if he got underneath Stoll in the 2nd or 3rd he would probably get stuck anyway. Why not take a shot? I will give him credit for trying to win, unlike some of our guys.
Yep. He thought he could generate enough torque in his torso to throw him. Problem is, Sam is just a bit heavier than the stuffed animal in his bedroom he's practiced that on.
It may have been a misguided effort to avoid the stall call for backing out and hopefully carry the action off the mat and OOB. In any case, not a wise move. That said, I think Sam would have eventually stuck him, anyway, either by throw or by turn.
IIRC this referee called stalling in one match. There was stalling on both teams and the lack of calls made for a boring meet.....except for Stoll’s pin. I really preferred the referee at the Rider match a week ago when he was calling stalling which forced action.
