Stop! Adapting the freestyle step out rule in college is absurd. Y'all realize it makes the mat smaller, no scoring on the edge? We don't need a step out, just call stalling! Step out turns the edge into sumo wrestling.
Stop with the step out talk!
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Do u watch freestyle? Nothing like sumo. After 20 or so years of officials not calling stalling maybe it’s time to try something different. I’m no let’s go freestyle person but I think this rule would create more action. I’m all for adopting passivity over stalling with shot clock and step out from neutral.
Freestyle needs to get rid of grounding. Dumbest rule ever. In danger of getting pushed out, just go to your knees. Idiocy.
No disagreement there.
Well. Maybe not the dumbest. The old Rule set with best 2/3 periods and ball grab was criminal. And the intent of grounding is good but too much gaming.
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How do you propose to get stalling called fairly every single match? The step out rule is a perfect solution for folk style as it is the same as stalling. I would assume with the name you use on this board that you would understand freestyle but I’m guessing maybe just a fanboy?
saying there is no action on the edge in freestyle is the biggest bunch of nonsense i have read recently. in freestyle guys actually continue wrestling on the edge because even if there is a step it can still lead to points if the other guy can finish his shot.
the only thing I can think of is mr royce hasn’t watched freestyle in years because that hasn’t been the case for awhile.
the only thing I can think of is mr royce hasn’t watched freestyle in years because that hasn’t been the case for awhile.
Freestyle is one foot out for a point, they also blow the whistle on turns to re-start once one guy goes out at all. Folkstyle should be two feet out for a point which still gives guys that want to play the edge a chance to play their game and still fight with one foot out knowing the risk, while the other guy getting a takedown also doesn't lead to an automatic whistle if someone is still partially in the circle. Similar scoring system but different ways of interpreting the set of rules. I mean freestyle also awards 2-4 points sometimes for blasting someone out with a takedown going out of bounds that wouldn't count in folkstyle for anything because neither guy stays in the circle.
I think the rules are fine as is if someone is in control. No need to stop action on the mat
I don’t hate continuation.
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Spencer Lee agrees. That Japanese dude was an expert at back up to the edge, then glueing his knees to the ground and sliding.
The way it is now the first time you cause your opponent to step out, it’s a stall call. 2nd time it’s a point. It’s huge for late in a match with short time remaining. As it stands now if the score is tied, or the aggressor is down by one, a guy can be tactically unaggressive or non-competitive and it doesn’t hurt him. He gets warned and precious seconds tick off the clock. With a step out his whole mindset must change or he’s going to get beat by a more active wrestler.
I would LOVE the addition of a step out rule in D-1. It takes away the flagrant passivity option late in matches, and rewards wrestlers that are aggressive while taking ground.
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Not to mention that the change to a 3 pt take down now gives that guy a 2-pt lead at the end of a match and has an extra stall call to work with.
Not having a stall warning and just having it be a point immediately and then 2 points the next time would also do wonders. Of course the refs still need to call it and that seems to be the rub.
Spoken like a true disciple of the John Smith Era.
We do need to call stalling. Call what's on the damn books. This covering the hips and riding BS has to stop. Everyone does it.
We also need a pushout rule. Free has showed us it is effective.
Freestyle has unequivocally proven that the step out rule helps keep the action going.
The constant out of bounds with the threat of a stall warning and its subsequent failure to be adequately implemented (especially at NCAAs) has failed.
The constant out of bounds with the threat of a stall warning and its subsequent failure to be adequately implemented (especially at NCAAs) has failed.
It was disgusting to watch. Plus the effort these guys expend trying to pick them up before the pushout attempt.
If they don't want to get rid of the the actual rule, tweak it. Automatic stalling if you fall to your knees when in danger of pushout.
Just make the rule if you go out , you're out. Lol
How hard is it??
good way to stop the talk, start a thread about it
I disagree. That leads to scoring on the edge. No step out rule leads to a lot of restarts in center of mat and less scoring overall. (How does adding another way to score LESSEN scoring?)
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