Yeah, about that. . . why are we importing en masse the foreign entanglements? See Dearborn, Michigan. See islamic "death to america" chants in America. See open border. WTF?
Surgeon dies in Israeli custody.
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Agree 100%. Which is I won’t be voting for Trump or Biden. They’re complicit in this BS.
Per usual, he doesn’t have a clue. That’s never stopped him before though lol.
Does this surprise you? He's the resident bigot and ignoramus.
There’s a lot of bigotry showing in this thread.
And a ton of Jew hating….but that’s who you guys are
Wasn’t an excuse. I just didn’t agree that the adults that support Hamas in Palestine are “innocent.”
They'd be doing this with out US involvement. We're not funding everything.
You have no idea that the surgeon who died in custody supported hamas, but he was Palestinian, so that’s enough for you and trad and the others.
That's putting words to my thought process that haven't been voiced. I don't happen to agree with them either. Rather, I am fully aware that Hamas' primary goal in this conflagration that they started on purpose and in which they killed and raped young people and took hostages while bragging about it and filming it, is propaganda fuel to weaken support for Israel. Given that, the fact that a "doctor" died in custody is not by itself sufficient evidence to suggest that Israel did anything wrong. We do not have a cause of death released. For all we know, he was shanked by someone working with Hamas.
You can see in our own media other propaganda attempts that are similar in strategy. For example, making the rounds is a frat guy doing gorilla movements to a morbidly obese woman on the Hamas side flipping off the crowd, who happens to be black. Rather than focus on the anti-semitic, anti-US Hamas supporters across the country threatening people, vandalizing college campuses, and generally spewing hate, a component of the media and people online have focused on the singular instance of "white supremacy" they've been able to find thus far.
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The Palestinians could end this today if they'd rise up and turn over the Hamas leaders to Israeli forces.
Israel made the decision to go into Gaza with a hammer and tongs approach.
It's hard to decide which is more troubling? The belief that civilian lives do not matter, or the collection of clowns including our MM who gave your post a like.
This may be the most delusional thing ever posted here. Israel wouldn’t even EXIST without the U.S. dollars (courtesy of several hundred compromised politicians). 7 million Jews in the ME surrounded by 330+ million Muslims.
We should have let them work it out 70 yrs ago.
Why should those colonizers (every Muslim in the me) be allowed to run roughshod over Israel? There was never a Palestine. This is territory the Ottoman Empire lost. The Brits tried to help out. The Muslim fueled ex Jordanians and ottoman remnants won’t give up. It’s a massive affront to them that non Muslims control that land.
West should recapture Constantinople.
Establishment of the Israel state required help from outside forces. That was then.
(not that this was necessarily a terrible thing -- you haven't explained that part)
That said, they're an established affluent nation now and we have limited input on their behavior.
(yes, long term, if we didn't provide/sell them any weapons they may suffer -- although there is still the rest of the world they have to work with)
One of the main reasons most members of Congress don't represent the majority of Americans who want a ceasefire: The Israel lobby gave Congress $58 million last cycle; only 33 members didn't receive donations.This dark money poisons our democracy.
If there was no lobby pushing Congress in a particular direction in a really forceful way, the position of the U.S. Congress on the war in Gaza would be fundamentally different," John Mearsheimer, a political scientist at the University of Chicago political who co-authored the book The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, told The Guardian.
Days before The Guardian's report, Arab American Institute founder James Zogby wrote on social media that much of the money raised against progressives from pro-Israel groups comes from wealthy Republican donors.
"Why won't Dem leaders call them out? They would if it were for any other issue: guns, big pharma, etc.—but Israel gets a pass," Zogby said.
"We tried to get the DNC to ban dark money in primaries. We were shot down and no vote was allowed," Zogby continued. "This money is damaging our democracy and allowing supporters of Israel to shield Israel from sanctions or even criticism.” (Buying off Congress let’s you get away with things like blowing up the USS Liberty, burning Palestine to the ground then getting the Anti Semitism Act passed to outlaw any criticism of your actions).
www.commondreams.org
If there was no lobby pushing Congress in a particular direction in a really forceful way, the position of the U.S. Congress on the war in Gaza would be fundamentally different," John Mearsheimer, a political scientist at the University of Chicago political who co-authored the book The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, told The Guardian.
Days before The Guardian's report, Arab American Institute founder James Zogby wrote on social media that much of the money raised against progressives from pro-Israel groups comes from wealthy Republican donors.
"Why won't Dem leaders call them out? They would if it were for any other issue: guns, big pharma, etc.—but Israel gets a pass," Zogby said.
"We tried to get the DNC to ban dark money in primaries. We were shot down and no vote was allowed," Zogby continued. "This money is damaging our democracy and allowing supporters of Israel to shield Israel from sanctions or even criticism.” (Buying off Congress let’s you get away with things like blowing up the USS Liberty, burning Palestine to the ground then getting the Anti Semitism Act passed to outlaw any criticism of your actions).
US Lawmakers Received Over $58 Million From Israel Lobby Last Election Cycle | Common Dreams
One progressive group said the money was "one of the main reasons most members of Congress don't represent the majority of Americans who want a cease-fire."
www.commondreams.org
One of the main reasons most members of Congress don't represent the majority of Americans who want a ceasefire: The Israel lobby gave Congress $58 million last cycle; only 33 members didn't receive donations.This dark money poisons our democracy.
If there was no lobby pushing Congress in a particular direction in a really forceful way, the position of the U.S. Congress on the war in Gaza would be fundamentally different," John Mearsheimer, a political scientist at the University of Chicago political who co-authored the book The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, told The Guardian.
Days before The Guardian's report, Arab American Institute founder James Zogby wrote on social media that much of the money raised against progressives from pro-Israel groups comes from wealthy Republican donors.
"Why won't Dem leaders call them out? They would if it were for any other issue: guns, big pharma, etc.—but Israel gets a pass," Zogby said.
"We tried to get the DNC to ban dark money in primaries. We were shot down and no vote was allowed," Zogby continued. "This money is damaging our democracy and allowing supporters of Israel to shield Israel from sanctions or even criticism.” (Buying off Congress let’s you get away with things like blowing up the USS Liberty, burning Palestine to the ground then getting the Anti Semitism Act passed to outlaw any criticism of your actions).
US Lawmakers Received Over $58 Million From Israel Lobby Last Election Cycle | Common Dreams
One progressive group said the money was "one of the main reasons most members of Congress don't represent the majority of Americans who want a cease-fire."
Yeah, nothing biased about "commondreams.org"
That essay is an absolute joke. Particularly the part above.Israel, therefore, faces a long-run dilemma which she must someday meet. Either to continue on her present course and, after years of mutual hostility and conflict be overthrown by Arab people’s guerrilla war. Or – to change direction drastically, to cut herself loose completely from Western imperial ties, and become simply Jewish citizens of the Middle East. If she did that, then peace and harmony and justice would at last reign in that tortured region. There is ample precedent for this peaceful coexistence. For in the centuries before 19th- and 20th-century Western imperialism, Jew and Arab had always lived well and peacefully together in the Middle East. There is no inherent enmity or conflict between Arab and Jew. In the great centuries of Arab civilization in North Africa and Spain, Jews took a happy and prominent part – in contrast to their ongoing persecution by the fanatics of the Christian West. Shorn of Western influence and Western imperialism, that harmony can reign once more.
War Guilt in the Middle East | Mises Institute
Into the heart of the peasant and nomadic Arab world of the Middle East there came, on the backs and on the bayonets of British imperialism, a largely Europeanmises.org
The Jews have been persecuted and pushed all over the globe since the dawn of their religion. There is no chance that Jews would be able to live in a single state with Arabs as a majority. Zero.
The biggest clue as to which side to choose in this conflict....one side is happy to simply exist as a religion, the other, in many areas, demands conversion to their religion.
What would have been a more appropriate way to conduct the war in Gaza? How would you have singled out Hamas from citizen there?
This forum and what we see on the campuses have really shown that the democrats just hate Israel. It changes my view of a ton of folks on here
This is what does it? Trump broke the psyche of 75% of the people on this board. Some are worse off than others...
That, and they view Israel as a European colonizer and thus an oppressor in their intersectional hierarchy.
By utilizing targeted strikes against militants in Gaza. By going after their leadership where they live. Qatar. Israel has not marginalized and isolated the leadership of Hamas. A more effective strategy would be to go after the financing of Hamas and their political power. New leadership for the Palestinians as well as the Israelis will end the war more quickly than Israel pounding Gaza into rubble with conventional weaponry, and occupying it for years with 300,000 soldiers. There isn't a number of dead civilians that will end the war more quickly in Israel's favor. Promoting new leadership for Palestine, agreeing to land for peace, and allowing for some form of self rule with economic development will end the war.
Derp.
We know nothing about this guy other than he was a Palestinian surgeon. Was he old? Was he fat? Was he a smoker? Was he in poor health to begin with? Was he a terrorist sympathizer?
