Tariff policy is working
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I love how most MAGAs are hyper focused on the border. Of course it’s an issue, one that NO administration has yet to fix. But while they are fixated on that, they couldn’t care less about the damage, could be called illegal, that Musk is doing and all of the allies we are pissing off. But as long as we get rid of those people, everything is good.
Nope I fully understand that Biden's change in policy resulted in reduced crossing. I was indicating that the condition was already present prior to yesterday. I don't think adding 10000 national guard will have any meaningful effects. It is security theatre
Opioid related overdose deaths are down and have continued to decline. Technically I think we only have data from 2023. Maybe it will go up in 2024 when we have all of the data. But the impression I have gotten I that is that it continues to decline.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/... the first time since,June 2023 and June 2024.
from what i've learned tariffs against mx and ca are as much (if not more) about trade concessions as about fentanyl and human trafficking. alluding to trade and economics as the main reason however would've made the tariff imposition subject to congress approval and basically sloweddown/neutered tariff's utility as a negotiating tool. so trump's applied the exact same emergency terminology (drugs and human trafficking) to both mx and ca and retained ability to use economic power as a negotiating tool.
now both mx and ca are guilty on the drugs/migration categories but to vastly varying degrees. from that standpoint if mx significantly interrupts drugs and illegals flow, it is a solid win for us and trump will probably be happy. otoh canada could deploy their entire military to the border and trump will likely keep the screws tight until canada offers something to balance out the trade deficit. i've seen trump mention that american banks are banned from operating in canada, maybe that's a concession he's waiting for. trump's got both ca and mx by the balls. crude and certainly not classy but i hope that even if/when trump gets concessions this ends with everyone saving face
imo here's a decent and balanced take
now both mx and ca are guilty on the drugs/migration categories but to vastly varying degrees. from that standpoint if mx significantly interrupts drugs and illegals flow, it is a solid win for us and trump will probably be happy. otoh canada could deploy their entire military to the border and trump will likely keep the screws tight until canada offers something to balance out the trade deficit. i've seen trump mention that american banks are banned from operating in canada, maybe that's a concession he's waiting for. trump's got both ca and mx by the balls. crude and certainly not classy but i hope that even if/when trump gets concessions this ends with everyone saving face
imo here's a decent and balanced take
According to the DEA
"2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted fentanyl drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of illegal immigrants for the same offense."
https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers
The cartels absolutely play a role. They are often securing the product from Asia and processing it into its final form. But they primarily use Americans for transport into the US, migrants aren't often used. I also think we underestimate how much is simply shipped or mailed.
The part I take issue with here is that tariffs appear to be the one and only tool in Trumps toolbox. There admittedly are times and places when those are the best options available, but he just seems unable or unwilling to recognize that, and especially against countries with whom we’re on better terms with - like Canada, should not be the first thing he turns to.
These may well benefit us in the short term, but it concerns me what the longterm ramifications may be.
And some of those enabling Flying Monkeys might just be in the same boat - I.e., also narcissists, etc.
Fact, border crossings increase dramatically under biden because he encouraged it. Fact, Trump opposes border crossing done illegally so it will be done less. aoc will be crying at the border-fact.
That's not what we're arguing. That's not what you were laughing about. We're talking about how fentanyl is getting across the border and who is bringing it. LOOK IT UP. Then apologize for being wrong.
Since you moved the goal posts, could you point me to your posts criticizing Trump in 2019 when there were 900,000 border encounters? Links to gates opened wide allowing migrants to flow across the border the last 4 years since you claim the border was wide open?
To be fair, Rs also encouraged it. They told everybody the border was completely open and then lied about Bidens policies to get as many people to flood us as possible.
We need more posts like this. Pure objective reality. Between 1945-1970, the USA was in a position to be generous, but we were never in a position to "save the world" by writing checks to everyone with their hand out. When WW2 ended we told 2 nations they couldn't rebuild their military, so we would blanket them with ours. Those 2 turned into 100 over time. This paradigm was a cold war reality. It wasn't sustainable over a vast time period, as the ever-growing spending and trade deficits testified.
When the USSR collapsed over 30 years ago our foreign policy changed from "contain communism" to "save the world from itself".
1) No single nation will ever have that type of wealth or power
2) No single nation should have that type of wealth or power
Almost every nation on earth looks out for its own interests. The USA stopped doing that many decades ago. One of the glaring examples of that was when the Clinton administration decided to save NORTH Korea from starvation. Clinton probably thought they would be grateful, instead they viewed the USA as chumps and channeled their efforts into creating nuclear weapons to bully us. That anecdote helps prove Hexum correct. We don't have allies, we have dependents. This is the history of empires.
Bill Clinton Once Struck a Nuclear Deal With North Korea | HISTORY
It was forged against all odds—but couldn’t survive the heat of public disapproval.
www.history.com
Still working ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Mexican Authorities Arrest Cartel Boss "El Ricky" After Trump Tariffs Force Mexico to Secure Border | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson
The arrest of cartel leader "El Ricky" signals a pivotal moment in the ongoing battle against organized crime, raising questions about U.S.-Mexico cooperation and its implications for security policies under President Trump's administration.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Mexican Authorities Arrest Cartel Boss “El Ricky” After Trump Tariffs Force Mexico to Secure Border
So you must have the missed the part about how the border was a main reason trump won.
Yep, he missed that ... and he'll keep missing things. Missing things isn't an accident for the party who elevated an incestuous Alzheimer's pedo to be their "leader".
Why won't you look up who's bringing the majority of the fentanyl across the border? That's what you were laughing at...that comment. Look it up and admit you're wrong. Then answer why you didn't complain in 2019. We know why...because you weren't told to give a damn.
Rape boy was telling everyone that immigrants were eating cats and dogs. Lying is how he won.
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WATCH: “A Bigger Decrease Than Under The First Trump Administration” — Tom Homan Says Border Crossings Down 93% as of Sunday, Says “We’ve Got More Work to Do”
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