No, his recovery wont be that long. Should be 8-10 months.Scratch Dix. It'll be 2 years before we see him.
No, his recovery wont be that long. Should be 8-10 months.Scratch Dix. It'll be 2 years before we see him.
Hope soNo, his recovery wont be that long. Should be 8-10 months.
CringeBesides the Murrays, we have no freaking talent. Someone refute me on this point. The other players play like they have a combination of Parkinson's and Huntington's Diseases. Why is recruiting so freaking pathetic? Perkins? Toussaint? Is one of the criteria to be recruited to Iowa that you have 0 ball handling skills, and play out of control the whole freaking time?
You know what was hilarious? They zoomed in on the bench during one of the time outs and all I was was short white guys pretending to be black making some signs in the air. This is the future. Holy crap. We are doomed.
This is a guards' game. Wisconsin or any other program ain't winning squat with our guards.Whether it’s a “rebuilding” year or not is besides the point. Fact of the matter is Fran somehow fell ass backwards into replacing Garza, who should’ve been National Player of the Year TWO years in a row, with a Player of the Year candidate who is a bona fide Lottery Pick candidate. And that player has a TWIN brother who despite having the same genes only gets 10 minutes a night.
Wisconsin wins at least 2 of 3 Big Ten regular season championships and finishes Sweet 16 or better in the tourney. With THE SAME players. Literally take Iowa’s entire roster from the last three seasons, put them in Madison, and we’d all be sitting here in Iowa bitching about the fact we’d love to have such teams.
There is no shortage of talent in Iowa. The coaching sucks and we’re serving witness to the absolute waste of it. Garza and Keegan Murray are on the short list of most talented players ever to suit up in Black and Gold, and they were playing with the All-Time 3-point leader. And yet… what? It’s almost laughable really.
The strange part is he was a guard nicknamed White Magic.This is a guards' game. Wisconsin or any other program ain't winning squat with our guards.
Look around the league. Ranking teams 1-14 will track guard talent/experience/depth almost perfectly.
The 1 has been Fran's Achilles heel since he started here. Always will be, bro.
Cringe worthy.Next year
1- Joe Toussaint, Dasonte Bowen, Ahron Ulis
2- Tony Perkins, Josh Dix
3- Patrick McCaffery, Payton Sandfort
4- Kris Murray, Filip Rebraca
5- Filip Rebraca, Josh Ogundele, Riley Mulvey
The strange part is he was a guard nicknamed White Magic.
Really? I thought he was a decent player.The magic was when Fran made a shot in college. How he got an ACC schollie is a wonder.
Thankfully PMAC seems to have a little more touch than Fran and CMAC.
Suterman, you're more crazy then I thought you were.
If Fran, and we all know Fran, so he probably will, plays Rebraca at center next year instead of Riley Mulvey or Josh Ogundele, Iowa is headed down the same road it is going down right now. Josh is not and will never become the center you all envision and that's a fact whether you believe it or not.
Josh Dix will not see much playing time next year, His injury is not going to allow him enough time to get ready to play next year at the level he needs to be...see Payton Sanford. How many minutes did he see this year and he didn't have a catastrophic injury like Dix had. Use your head.
I can also see Bowen playing the off guard spot behind Perkins and along side Toussaint but who knows what the roster will be next year...no one knew that Nunge or Fredrick were going to the portal and maybe Perkins, Ulis, or others decide to transfer before next year...nothing would surprise me anymore except Frans coaching philosophy which is apart of his DNA and it will never change.
Oh, by the way you're no more crazy then the rest of us that follow Iowa basketball...
Really? I thought he was a decent player.
Damn.fran was a career 51% FT shooter and 37% FG%.....there is no magic in those stats.
Fran is still learning, haven't you read the other posts? I mean it's a relatively new concept that guards matter--it's only been true since the sport was started. If you can't recruit them traditionally, which clearly Fran can't, then go the transfer route to plug some holes. You put a legit guard, just 1 because I am not going to get into wild fantasies about Fran finding 2 and you have a different dynamic. Missing on guys here and there is understandable. Missing for 12 years is another matter.I keep hearing this is a rebuilding year... normally rebuilding years you see young guys taking steps through the season, so you can clearly see the future. Not seeing that at all besides Kris, and God knows how long he will be around.
So my question is, if this is a rebuilding year, and next year we don't have Keegan, then what the hell is next year?
If anyone can make a big leap, it's Ulis. Wouldn't bet the farm on it happening but it could happen. He definitely shows flashes.Cringe worthy.
This is a fantastic post and outlines the Fran era perfectly. Its really not even close when comparing Fran to Alford and Lickliter and an argument can be made that Fran has had better results in his career with his players than Davis ever had.If people want to rip Fran for not being able to get beyond the 2nd round of the tournament, that is completely fair.
But for people to say Fran is a terrible coach, or even just an average coach, is laughable. Iowa is currently projected to be a #7 seed in the tournament, which would be the 4th year in a row Iowa has had a tournament team (including 2020 even though the tournament was cancelled). Tom Davis never made the tournament 4 years in a row. Neither did Alford, and obviously Lickliter never made a single NCAA tournament.
Fran is a good coach with a lot of strengths. His teams are almost always efficient on offense. He has shown to have a pretty good eye for talent. However, he's not a great coach. His recruiting is generally average, and his teams often are not good defensively. I don't have much of a problem with people wanting to move on from Fran because he hasn't been able to take Iowa over the hump (i.e., getting to Sweet 16 or further). But you have to at least be fair with your arguments.
Since Fran's 3rd season, Iowa has been to the NCAA Tournament 75% of the time. Maybe the coach that ultimately succeeds Fran will have more success and regularly take Iowa to the Sweet 16. But if I'm placing a bet on whether whether the next coach: (A) has more success than Fran, (B) has equal success as Fran, or (C) has less success than Fran - I'd think option (C) is more likely than option (A). I don't think it's crazy for people to want to try to see if we can get an option (A) coach. Iowa tried that before with Alford replacing Davis. In hindsight that didn't work, but it wasn't a crazy thing to do.
We have fans who have seen much better basketball played here and it's completely reasonable to expect it again.We have some GREAT fans on this board!
I live in Texas, I say that to say I don't go to Carver. Is the arena full, 75% full, 1/2 full?If people want to rip Fran for not being able to get beyond the 2nd round of the tournament, that is completely fair.
But for people to say Fran is a terrible coach, or even just an average coach, is laughable. Iowa is currently projected to be a #7 seed in the tournament, which would be the 4th year in a row Iowa has had a tournament team (including 2020 even though the tournament was cancelled). Tom Davis never made the tournament 4 years in a row. Neither did Alford, and obviously Lickliter never made a single NCAA tournament.
Fran is a good coach with a lot of strengths. His teams are almost always efficient on offense. He has shown to have a pretty good eye for talent. However, he's not a great coach. His recruiting is generally average, and his teams often are not good defensively. I don't have much of a problem with people wanting to move on from Fran because he hasn't been able to take Iowa over the hump (i.e., getting to Sweet 16 or further). But you have to at least be fair with your arguments.
Since Fran's 3rd season, Iowa has been to the NCAA Tournament 75% of the time. Maybe the coach that ultimately succeeds Fran will have more success and regularly take Iowa to the Sweet 16. But if I'm placing a bet on whether whether the next coach: (A) has more success than Fran, (B) has equal success as Fran, or (C) has less success than Fran - I'd think option (C) is more likely than option (A). I don't think it's crazy for people to want to try to see if we can get an option (A) coach. Iowa tried that before with Alford replacing Davis. In hindsight that didn't work, but it wasn't a crazy thing to do.
I live in Texas, I say that to say I don't go to Carver. Is the arena full, 75% full, 1/2 full?
I agree it's wrong to call him a terrible coach. He definitely leaves himself (more?) open to criticism with his antics and general attitude towards tough questions. Combined that with the appearance of the union card issue, and never playing even average defense, Fran brings these criticisms on himself. The talent level of the team is his responsibility, the record, etc..
I think the biggest issue for "the move on from Fran" groups, is that they believe they have seen the peak of his success. I think most understand that Iowa isn't firing him anytime soon.
I'd rather have fans who post criticisms on these silly boards, than have a fan base that is so apathetic they don't even care.