Thomas asks CAS to halt ban on trans swimmers
Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas has asked a Swiss sports court to overturn rules imposed by World Aquatics that stop her from competing in elite women's races, saying they are discriminatory.
That "Lia Thomas" is a real piece of work
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Seriously... spend your whole life as a man. Start taking hormones, and then insist you be included in high level competition against women. Lap up the praise and accolades. Get up on the podium and feel good about yourself.
Ain't right in the head.
Ain't right in the head.
I'll give her credit for one thing and one thing only. She made people actually care and discuss women's swimming. Nobody gave a shit about it until they got mad about her.
She?
Her?
I don't understand. Are you referring to the dude who flopped his cock around at his teammates who were then intimidated by their coaches/administrators into keeping schtum? Just lay back and enjoy it, gals!
Quite the take.
Gonna go out on a limb and guess we've had more threads about women's swimming on here over the last couple years than in all of HORT history combined.
Any guesses as to why that might be, genius?
Because it wasn’t women’s swimming anymore.
I'm solely stating that nobody talked about college swimming until ol Lia. I don't care enough to debate anything that has to do with it. I'll let you bump an old thread and bring it back if you're wanting to do that.
That’s odd, because you sure jumped into the thread quick.
Do you support Lia Thomas?
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"Hey, hey, hey, hey! I'm not sayin' nothin', except nobody was tawlkin' 'bout college swimmin' until ol' Lia "Swinging my cock 'round the locker room" Thomas started swingin' his cock 'round the ol' locker room.
Why was no one interested in swimming until a sexual deviant started forcing women to look at his cock before and after he beat them in the pool? And why did an Ivy League university, whose president just resigned for being a dumb ****in' retard, attempt to silence any dissent from the female swim team members?
Hey sometimes some extreme things have to happen in order for something to get into the limelight!
I got into swimming because Lia Thomas inspired me.
Lia Thomas loves using her penis to fck her girlfriend and has no intention to ever get rid of it.
Classic cross-dresser co-opting actual trans identity so she can freely swing it in front of women in their own dressing room.
Classic cross-dresser co-opting actual trans identity so she can freely swing it in front of women in their own dressing room.
Sounds like we need more trans in women's sports to increase viewership
Nah. I don't think anybody cares. They just like this debate. I only posted this because I saw it at the top of the ESPN story column
His name is William Thomas. He’s a dude with male genes and a penis & testicles. I think he is insanely selfish and inconsiderate to compete against women.
There is absolutely nothing brave about deceiving yourself and everyone else for undeserved glory. Just truly shameful.
There is absolutely nothing brave about deceiving yourself and everyone else for undeserved glory. Just truly shameful.
"When misguided public opinion honors what is despicable and despises what is honorable, punishes virtue and rewards vice, encourages what is harmful and discourages what is useful, applauds falsehood and smothers truth under indifference or insult, a nation turns its back on progress and can be restored only by the terrible lessons of catastrophe."
- Frederic Bastiat
I’m confused by what she wants. Some regulation is called for, just not against her.
Ms Thomas accepts that fair competition is a legitimate sporting objective and that some regulation of transgender women in swimming is appropriate," the Swiss court said.
"However, Ms Thomas submits that the [rules] are invalid and unlawful as they discriminate against her," CAS said, citing "the Olympic Charter, the World Aquatics Constitution, and Swiss law including the European Convention on Human Rights and the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women."
Thomas argued that "such discrimination cannot be justified as necessary, reasonable, or proportionate to achieve a legitimate sporting objective," the court said.
Ms Thomas accepts that fair competition is a legitimate sporting objective and that some regulation of transgender women in swimming is appropriate," the Swiss court said.
"However, Ms Thomas submits that the [rules] are invalid and unlawful as they discriminate against her," CAS said, citing "the Olympic Charter, the World Aquatics Constitution, and Swiss law including the European Convention on Human Rights and the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women."
Thomas argued that "such discrimination cannot be justified as necessary, reasonable, or proportionate to achieve a legitimate sporting objective," the court said.
Just an incredible amount of bigotry in this thread. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh and not that you will read this, but here's the truth to all the handwringing you're doing over this.
www.independent.co.uk
Why the data shows trans swimming champion Lia Thomas didn’t have an unfair advantage
The NCAA champion has sparked controversy and become a hate figure among conservatives, but statistics show little evidence that she performed any differently to other women, Io Dodds reports
www.independent.co.uk
Yeah, I wasn’t being serious about her making people care about the sport.
The truth?Just an incredible amount of bigotry in this thread. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh and not that you will read this, but here's the truth to all the handwringing you're doing over this.
Why the data shows trans swimming champion Lia Thomas didn’t have an unfair advantage
The NCAA champion has sparked controversy and become a hate figure among conservatives, but statistics show little evidence that she performed any differently to other women, Io Dodds reports
Why don't you bigots just let Will flash his cock and beat on women?!Just an incredible amount of bigotry in this thread. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh and not that you will read this, but here's the truth to all the handwringing you're doing over this.
Why the data shows trans swimming champion Lia Thomas didn’t have an unfair advantage
The NCAA champion has sparked controversy and become a hate figure among conservatives, but statistics show little evidence that she performed any differently to other women, Io Dodds reports
Fvckin' bigots!
Sure, he doesn't wanna enter into the specially-created Open category (which is what Men's has always been, but they made this speshy Open category for perverts, just like Will), and that just demonstrates how marginalized he is.
Just an incredible amount of bigotry in this thread. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh and not that you will read this, but here's the truth to all the handwringing you're doing over this.
Why the data shows trans swimming champion Lia Thomas didn’t have an unfair advantage
The NCAA champion has sparked controversy and become a hate figure among conservatives, but statistics show little evidence that she performed any differently to other women, Io Dodds reports
I am intolerant of Will Thomas for the same reason I am intolerant of mega-Church Christian leaders like Joel Osteen. They are blatant frauds masquerading as legitimate.
Will Thomas has no business competing against women swimmers. None!
Just an incredible amount of bigotry in this thread. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh and not that you will read this, but here's the truth to all the handwringing you're doing over this.
Why the data shows trans swimming champion Lia Thomas didn’t have an unfair advantage
The NCAA champion has sparked controversy and become a hate figure among conservatives, but statistics show little evidence that she performed any differently to other women, Io Dodds reports
Do you think that matters? No matter what place she gets she is taking that spot away from someone else unfairly. It doesn't matter one teeny tiny bit that she's not breaking records.Just an incredible amount of bigotry in this thread. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh and not that you will read this, but here's the truth to all the handwringing you're doing over this.
Why the data shows trans swimming champion Lia Thomas didn’t have an unfair advantage
The NCAA champion has sparked controversy and become a hate figure among conservatives, but statistics show little evidence that she performed any differently to other women, Io Dodds reports
Well it kinda does since the unfair advantage argument is the justification for her not being able the compete.
But I do give you credit. And least you call her a she. I guess we can disagree with the competition part. But I am happy you call her and her.
Do you believe biological males have built-in, inherent advantages when it comes to body build and muscle mass when compared to biological females?
It's not that hard to be respectful. If you want to be called purple flingbow, then you are purple flingbow to me. It's not clever or helpful or respectful to call her a he.
But the point remains. The unfair advantage IS still relevant. Just because they can't beat every single woman doesn't mean it's fair for her to compete against women. 3rd best. 10th best. 28th best. It's all stealing a spot unfairly.
The “breaking records” thing is such a ridiculous way to look at it. All you have to do is see where she placed against men, and where she placed against women.
By the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to fifth on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle.
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