The 5 second call with 58 seconds left

[AuroraHawk]

Because I'm a sick bastard, I went back to the DVR to see if I could see Randy Peterson getting stomped by the ISU students . . . I watched the dreadful last minute. If you've DVR'd the game, watch the baseline ref on the 5 second call. You see his arm "snap" off a 4 count and then he blows the whistle immediately afterwards.

I then timed it on my chronograph. 5 seconds passed.

Probably a good call but it certainly doesn't look like the ref "snapped" off 5 seconds.

Had to call a time out there. Big brain fart by a senior leader.

 

[like-woahh]

Was it 5 seconds or Uthoff bobbling the ball to himself?

 

[AuroraHawk]

Refs called it a 5 second violation. I don't think it is a violation to bobble the ball and then regain control.

 

[unsubstantiated]

Refs definitely seem to get caught up in the "Hilton Magic" It was obvious down the stretch tonight. They get all frazzled by the crowd and react to their noise and whining.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

I am sorry but Iowa did it to themselves. You have 1 TIME OUT left, why not use it? I mean the inbounds pass to Woody was horrible, why throw it right under your basket???

Then the 5 second count was terrible as well, we had all 4 guys inside the 3pt line at that end. If its one think Ive learned is you need to have spacing and break hard to the ball. All our guys did was stand there.

Tough break and Tough loss. Oh well got a lot of games left.

 

[Curt Furence]

I am sorry but Iowa did it to themselves. You have 1 TIME OUT left, why not use it? I mean the inbounds pass to Woody was horrible, why throw it right under your basket???

Then the 5 second count was terrible as well, we had all 4 guys inside the 3pt line at that end. If its one think Ive learned is you need to have spacing and break hard to the ball. All our guys did was stand there.

Tough break and Tough loss. Oh well got a lot of games left.

Agree, the officials had nothing to do with the loss. Instead of taking a timeout in either of those in bound situations Fran takes one home in his back pocket. You can cash those in at the end of the season like unused PTO right?

Gesell had another bad turnover tonight in the final minute. It seems like you can write that every close game.

Also, I know it is Fran's strategy to let the guys play it out in last second situations and probably has a play called for if it comes down to it, but I would like to see him use that TO there and set something up. Uthoff got a good look, same way McCabe did in 2013, but man it is frustrating.

 

[bravehawks1]

This should be no surprise. Fran is a bad end game manager. His strategy is to let it play out as noted, but how often has that worked compared to getting the team on the same page. Get your team together and everyone knows the play call, especially in a hostile and loud place like Hilton.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Agree, the officials had nothing to do with the loss. Instead of taking a timeout in either of those in bound situations Fran takes one home in his back pocket. You can cash those in at the end of the season like unused PTO right?

Gesell had another bad turnover tonight in the final minute. It seems like you can write that every close game.

Also, I know it is Fran's strategy to let the guys play it out in last second situations and probably has a play called for if it comes down to it, but I would like to see him use that TO there and set something up. Uthoff got a good look, same way McCabe did in 2013, but man it is frustrating.

I love the kid, but he has not played great in Hilton. He seems to play his worst in that arena and for whatever reason he just struggles to stay under control. I mean last night he started to take it to the rim and started getting looks, then the one time he stops and chucks its into the 3rd row? Keep doing what your doing, why stop?

 

[CyRail]

Because I'm a sick bastard, I went back to the DVR to see if I could see Randy Peterson getting stomped by the ISU students . . . I watched the dreadful last minute. If you've DVR'd the game, watch the baseline ref on the 5 second call. You see his arm "snap" off a 4 count and then he blows the whistle immediately afterwards.

I then timed it on my chronograph. 5 seconds passed.

Probably a good call but it certainly doesn't look like the ref "snapped" off 5 seconds.

Had to call a time out there. Big brain fart by a senior leader.

Since he tripped over a cord, you will never see what you were looking for. Know what you're talking about before you insinuate something that didn't happen. As far as the storming of the court, something like that can happen when you actually have more than a few hundred fans in the arena.

 

[Tclone99]

Because I'm a sick bastard, I went back to the DVR to see if I could see Randy Peterson getting stomped by the ISU students . . . I watched the dreadful last minute. If you've DVR'd the game, watch the baseline ref on the 5 second call. You see his arm "snap" off a 4 count and then he blows the whistle immediately afterwards.

I then timed it on my chronograph. 5 seconds passed.

Probably a good call but it certainly doesn't look like the ref "snapped" off 5 seconds.

Had to call a time out there. Big brain fart by a senior leader.

Keep working on it guys. I think by the end of the day you will all settle on your narrative for why Iowa lost that avoids giving any credit to Iowa State. You always do.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

Keep working on it guys. I think by the end of the day you will all settle on your narrative for why Iowa lost that avoids giving any credit to Iowa State. You always do.

You are right, because Iowa F'd the game up here, period. ISU was the recipients of an early Christmas gift. Up 8 with 1 to go and losing, that takes talent right there to F it up.

 

[fivecardstud14]

Since he tripped over a cord, you will never see what you were looking for. Know what you're talking about before you insinuate something that didn't happen. As far as the storming of the court, something like that can happen when you actually have more than a few hundred fans in the arena.

Don't you have something to boo? Clone fans don't want to watch basketball, they want whistles on every possession.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

Don't you have something to boo? Clone fans don't want to watch basketball, they want whistles on every possession.

Great work out of them booing Joke getting eye poked, man what a bunch of POS fans there, Magic LOL, laugh everytime I hear it.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Iowa State is a good ball club. I knew that going in. Beating an unranked team didn't change my opinion of them. The only thing I saw last night was a team that might be a little "over ranked" per say, but they are a solid ball club. You have the shooters and the big men to make teams defend you.

The thing that is bothering most Iowa fans is the way it played out. If ISU wins by 10 and leads the entire game, then its a non issue. The way Iowa played down the stretch was the exact same way 2 years ago. One would think Fran would of learned and did something different, but nope still does the same stuff.

That is what is irritating fans the most today. Iowa has not changed their ways and it costed them another game. I think this game will help Iowa in the long run (sadly I said the exact same thing two years ago). This is a long season and playing in a hostile environment and to put up that # of pts shows that this team is capable of playing with the top 5 teams in the nation.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

Iowa State is a good ball club. I knew that going in. Beating an unranked team didn't change my opinion of them. The only thing I saw last night was a team that might be a little "over ranked" per say, but they are a solid ball club. You have the shooters and the big men to make teams defend you.

The thing that is bothering most Iowa fans is the way it played out. If ISU wins by 10 and leads the entire game, then its a non issue. The way Iowa played down the stretch was the exact same way 2 years ago. One would think Fran would of learned and did something different, but nope still does the same stuff.

That is what is irritating fans the most today. Iowa has not changed their ways and it costed them another game. I think this game will help Iowa in the long run (sadly I said the exact same thing two years ago). This is a long season and playing in a hostile environment and to put up that # of pts shows that this team is capable of playing with the top 5 teams in the nation.

We've had about 15-20 of these kind of games experienced by this senior class and coaching staff, nothing will change.

 

[johnnashhawk]

Keep working on it guys. I think by the end of the day you will all settle on your narrative for why Iowa lost that avoids giving any credit to Iowa State. You always do.

Morris is the stereotype by which all ISU fans and players are measured. Shoots his mouth after the game " we wanted to take advantage of their slow foot speed." Yeah ok. We led for 39 minutes of the game dipsl#it. We wanted to take advantage of your slow brain speed, and you never be anything but a loudmouth thug

 

[gojojo]

Keep working on it guys. I think by the end of the day you will all settle on your narrative for why Iowa lost that avoids giving any credit to Iowa State. You always do.

I don't know how anyone can watch that game and not see that Iowa blew it more than ISU won it. Look, I fully admit ISU is the better team and would win 8/10 games against Iowa this year. I was shocked Iowa was in a position to win that game, but the perfect storm took place: Iowa couldn't miss in the first half and ISU played awful. The errors that caused ISU to play poorly in the first half were not because of great defense by Iowa, they were just self-induced miscues by ISU. The same can be said of the Iowa miscues down the stretch. When you have a 20 point lead in the second half you have nowhere to look after the loss but in the mirror and blame yourself. Awful coaching and terrible guard play by a senior "leader".

Congrats on the win and good luck the rest of the way.

 

[FranklinHawk]

Agree, the officials had nothing to do with the loss. Instead of taking a timeout in either of those in bound situations Fran takes one home in his back pocket. You can cash those in at the end of the season like unused PTO right?

Gesell had another bad turnover tonight in the final minute. It seems like you can write that every close game.

Also, I know it is Fran's strategy to let the guys play it out in last second situations and probably has a play called for if it comes down to it, but I would like to see him use that TO there and set something up. Uthoff got a good look, same way McCabe did in 2013, but man it is frustrating.

Pretty sure Fran can't call timeout in that situation, a player would have to call it.

 

[gojojo]

Great work out of them booing Joke getting eye poked, man what a bunch of POS fans there, Magic LOL, laugh everytime I hear it.

Irony. Complaining about an Iowa player poking another in the eye all last year, yet booing when one of their players does the same thing causing an injury

 

[Lone Clone]

You are right, because Iowa F'd the game up here, period. ISU was the recipients of an early Christmas gift. Up 8 with 1 to go and losing, that takes talent right there to F it up.

This is true, and it doesn't take away from the ISU effort that put the Cyclones in a position to win. A quote from the Hawkeye fans' favorite Cyclone, Georges Niang: "By the end of it, they just gave us the game, when you think about it, like two years ago."

Of course, ISU had to play great defense, which it did; Niang had to hit two pressure gifters, which he did; Thomas had to a hit a crucial trey, which he did: Morris had to make that clutch shot, which he did; and ISU had to defend a final shot by Iowa, which it did.

But a team with Iowa's talent shouldn't lose a 20-point lead in the last 16 minutes, and certainly shouldn't lose an 8-point lead in the last two.

Psychologically, you have one team that expects to win and finds a way to do it, and one team that expects the worst to happen, which is a self-fulfilling prophecy; it's the same situation as in football, just reversed.

 

[CyRail]

Iowa State is a good ball club. I knew that going in. Beating an unranked team didn't change my opinion of them. The only thing I saw last night was a team that might be a little "over ranked" per say, but they are a solid ball club. You have the shooters and the big men to make teams defend you.

The thing that is bothering most Iowa fans is the way it played out. If ISU wins by 10 and leads the entire game, then its a non issue. The way Iowa played down the stretch was the exact same way 2 years ago. One would think Fran would of learned and did something different, but nope still does the same stuff.

That is what is irritating fans the most today. Iowa has not changed their ways and it costed them another game. I think this game will help Iowa in the long run (sadly I said the exact same thing two years ago). This is a long season and playing in a hostile environment and to put up that # of pts shows that this team is capable of playing with the top 5 teams in the nation.

Decent post--and actually there was a long thread on an ISU board earlier this week suggesting that we are probably over ranked--and virtually all ISU posters agreed.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Decent post--and actually there was a long thread on an ISU board earlier this week suggesting that we are probably over ranked--and virtually all ISU posters agreed.

Personally Rankings don't mean anything. I hate pre-season polls. I mean UNC was not the #1 team in the nation when UNI beat them. I really wish they would wait until after Christmas to release rankings. I feel the same way in Football (hell this year SEC had 8-9 teams in pre seasons poll, now only 2 or 3). They are a joke.

It is a nice feather in the cap, but by seasons end I am guessing the top 15 will a lot different than it does right now. There will be some teams fall out and some surprises jump up.

ISU has a nice team and with adding another player should help their bench. Baring any injuries I am guessing they will top 2 in the Big 12 and probably in the hunt for a 1-2 seed in NCAA. Lot of games left, it looked like a good atmosphere and should pay dividends for both teams once conference play starts.

 

[srams21]

This is true, and it doesn't take away from the ISU effort that put the Cyclones in a position to win. A quote from the Hawkeye fans' favorite Cyclone, Georges Niang: "By the end of it, they just gave us the game, when you think about it, like two years ago."

Of course, ISU had to play great defense, which it did; Niang had to hit two pressure gifters, which he did; Thomas had to a hit a crucial trey, which he did: Morris had to make that clutch shot, which he did; and ISU had to defend a final shot by Iowa, which it did.

But a team with Iowa's talent shouldn't lose a 20-point lead in the last 16 minutes, and certainly shouldn't lose an 8-point lead in the last two.

Psychologically, you have one team that expects to win and finds a way to do it, and one team that expects the worst to happen, which is a self-fulfilling prophecy; it's the same situation as in football, just reversed.

100 % agreed. Iowa State played great in the second half and never backed down. I still don't think they are a legit top five team but they(the ISU team) believe it and that is what matters as we saw in football. I love the confidence that Cyclone team has.

I do think the court storming was extremely unacceptable. Act like you have been there. ISU was projected to blowout Iowa and they had to play a great second half and get some extremely dumb decision making by the Hawks to win. I would be interested in your reaction on that Lone Clone.

 

[CyRail]

100 % agreed. Iowa State played great in the second half and never backed down. I still don't think they are a legit top five team but they(the ISU team) believe it and that is what matters as we saw in football. I love the confidence that Cyclone team has.

I do think the court storming was extremely unacceptable. Act like you have been there. ISU was projected to blowout Iowa and they had to play a great second half and get some extremely dumb decision making by the Hawks to win. I would be interested in your reaction on that Lone Clone.

You're talking about 18-22 year old college kids, why would you begrudge them that type of fun after a comeback win against a rival? Is there really anything wrong with that? It's not like the alums are storming the court. (And, 1/4 of them [Freshman] have never had the experience--have only seen it on tv. You're telling me if you were a Freshman last night that you wouldn't have rushed the court?)

On top of that, we do have fans that help make a difference in the game--let them be rewarded by doing a court storm every now and then.

So, seriously, you have an issue with rushing the court?

 

[DavenportHawk8]

You're talking about 18-22 year old college kids, why would you begrudge them that type of fun after a comeback win against a rival? Is there really anything wrong with that? It's not like the alums are storming the court. (And, 1/4 of them [Freshman] have never had the experience--have only seen it on tv. You're telling me if you were a Freshman last night that you wouldn't have rushed the court?)

On top of that, we do have fans that help make a difference in the game--let them be rewarded by doing a court storm every now and then.

So, seriously, you have an issue with rushing the court?

I don't have a problem with it when your the underdog or you punched your ticket to the NCAA tournament. I have a problem with it, when your the "favored" team and nationally ranked. I am trying to wrap my head around why they would storm the court after beating an unranked team?

Just doesn't make sense and with the reporter going down doesn't make it any better. I would suggest let all the players/coaches get off the floor, then allow the fans on the court if they want to be. pretty soon we are going to have a brawl between fans and players.

 

[HerkyFan]

You're talking about 18-22 year old college kids, why would you begrudge them that type of fun after a comeback win against a rival? Is there really anything wrong with that? It's not like the alums are storming the court. (And, 1/4 of them [Freshman] have never had the experience--have only seen it on tv. You're telling me if you were a Freshman last night that you wouldn't have rushed the court?)

On top of that, we do have fans that help make a difference in the game--let them be rewarded by doing a court storm every now and then.

So, seriously, you have an issue with rushing the court?

The only reason isu rushed the court is that they beat Iowa. I can guarantee you if Iowa is ranked #4 in any sport and we beat little bro who is unranked Iowa fans won't rush the playing field.

But that is the difference between big and little bro.

 

[LinusPF]

I am sorry but Iowa did it to themselves. You have 1 TIME OUT left, why not use it? I mean the inbounds pass to Woody was horrible, why throw it right under your basket???

Then the 5 second count was terrible as well, we had all 4 guys inside the 3pt line at that end. If its one think Ive learned is you need to have spacing and break hard to the ball. All our guys did was stand there.

That's not how I remember it.
I remember Woody standing right in front of Utoff on still about the three-count - because I screamed at the TV to "Throw it to him!" Maybe he didn't because Woody lost the ball on the last in-bounds??

 

[5Fan5]

This is true, and it doesn't take away from the ISU effort that put the Cyclones in a position to win. A quote from the Hawkeye fans' favorite Cyclone, Georges Niang: "By the end of it, they just gave us the game, when you think about it, like two years ago."

Of course, ISU had to play great defense, which it did; Niang had to hit two pressure gifters, which he did; Thomas had to a hit a crucial trey, which he did: Morris had to make that clutch shot, which he did; and ISU had to defend a final shot by Iowa, which it did.

But a team with Iowa's talent shouldn't lose a 20-point lead in the last 16 minutes, and certainly shouldn't lose an 8-point lead in the last two.

Psychologically, you have one team that expects to win and finds a way to do it, and one team that expects the worst to happen, which is a self-fulfilling prophecy; it's the same situation as in football, just reversed.

Only in your demented imagination, LC.

Football is entirely separate in this particular analogy. In YOUR mind, Iowa was fortunate to win in Ames in September all because isu failed to score over the last 32+ minutes of the game. No credit to Iowa's defense at all from you. Simply isu failing to take the advantage with two evenly matched teams on the field. After all, Iowa would only be maybe the second most difficult opponent that up and coming isu would face on the field in 2015 according to you and some others.

Last night, the home team with better talent prevailed. Iowa came out very well prepared and focused at the beginning of the game but lost that edge in the second half. Credit the home advantage and the isu team for that.

Good to know that UAB expected to win last March though. That explains so much about isu.

 

[CyRail]

The only reason isu rushed the court is that they beat Iowa. I can guarantee you if Iowa is ranked #4 in any sport and we beat little bro who is unranked Iowa fans won't rush the playing field.

But that is the difference between big and little bro.

Herky, it's difficult to get a court rush when you have to wake up the few hundred fans in attendance.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Since he tripped over a cord, you will never see what you were looking for. Know what you're talking about before you insinuate something that didn't happen. As far as the storming of the court, something like that can happen when you actually have more than a few hundred fans in the arena.

Your butt-hurt is delicious. I do understand your frustration, your team just isn't "all that". Get over it. Maybe you'll get another shot at UAB this season and you can storm the court twice.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

Herky, it's difficult to get a court rush when you have to wake up the few hundred fans in attendance.

Man you are a very consistent sheep today.

 

[HerkyFan]

Herky, it's difficult to get a court rush when you have to wake up the few hundred fans in attendance.

Carver attendance last year out did the clowns.

Must ignore. Clown fans can't handle the truth.

 

[CyRail]

The only reason isu rushed the court is that they beat Iowa. I can guarantee you if Iowa is ranked #4 in any sport and we beat little bro who is unranked Iowa fans won't rush the playing field.

But that is the difference between big and little bro.

Man, Herky, I guess I have to post this twice:

Hey, Herky: 2006--Iowa State at #16 Iowa. Football. End of game--Iowa fans storm field.

Hilarious. It's called "BUSTED!"

 

[HerkyFan]

Man, Herky, I guess I have to post this twice:

Hey, Herky: 2006--Iowa State at #16 Iowa. Football. End of game--Iowa fans storm field.

Hilarious. It's called "BUSTED!"

Again let me know when Iowa is ranked #4 and beats unranked little bro isu and we have stormed the court or field.

I can wait. Or maybe clown fan can quite see the difference yet.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

Man, Herky, I guess I have to post this twice:

Hey, Herky: 2006--Iowa State at #16 Iowa. Football. End of game--Iowa fans storm field.

Hilarious. It's called "BUSTED!"

It is called BUSTED when the transfers get caught again and Fred smooths it over with the "arrangement" with the Ames PD which was quoted in articles at time LOL.

 

[HerkyFan]

It is called BUSTED when the transfers get caught again and Fred smooths it over with the "arrangement" with the Ames PD which was quoted in articles at time LOL.

Must ignore because clown fans say so. Laws and common decency are thrown out the window when it comes to isu and their douchy athletes.

 

[gablefan73]

I am sorry but Iowa did it to themselves. You have 1 TIME OUT left, why not use it? I mean the inbounds pass to Woody was horrible, why throw it right under your basket???

Then the 5 second count was terrible as well, we had all 4 guys inside the 3pt line at that end. If its one think Ive learned is you need to have spacing and break hard to the ball. All our guys did was stand there.

Tough break and Tough loss. Oh well got a lot of games left.

It is pretty sad when the officials let Iowa State hold onto our guys so nobody could get open. Woody got hacked on the play before. They should have used the Time out and that is on Fran and JU but the officials robbed the better team. Iowa is a better team and deserved to win.

 

[HerkyFan]

It is pretty sad when the officials let Iowa State hold onto our guys so nobody could get open. Woody got hacked on the play before. They should have used the Time out and that is on Fran and JU but the officials robbed the better team. Iowa is a better team and deserved to win.

isu wasn't good enough to beat us on their own. They needed help. No clown fan will ever admit the truth though.

 

[CyRail]

isu wasn't good enough to beat us on their own. They needed help. No clown fan will ever admit the truth though.

Herky, I know you're posting this just to yank chains, and you're doing very good--because nobody in their right mind could actually believe the stuff you've said today.

Cheers.

 

[HerkyFan]

Herky, I know you're posting this just to yank chains, and you're doing very good--because nobody in their right mind could actually believe the stuff you've said today.

Cheers.

There it is again. isu wasn't good enough to beat Iowa on their own they needed our help.

Actually clown fan here is the secret. I am just posting like each and every clown fan did after UAB beat you.

I know it isn't fair to show how isu fans act. Just ask them.