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The federal government is the largest employer in the United States....

Keeping our national parks clean and habilitating.

Delivering our mail.

Writing out social security checks.

Overseeing the safe keeping of our nuclear weapons.

Providing services to many of our lesser capable citizens.

I know you have problems with many of these programs. I’m guessing you’d like a more….spartan approach. Throwing babies off a cliff if they don’t meet your eye test.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree.
1. The freak out about parks employees is especially funny

2. The post office is not technically a government agency but is some kind of weird hybrid. It's also worthless and very poorly run.

3. Seems like they wrote a LOT of illegitimate social security checks

4.

5. The federal government is far too bloated and needs a LOT of fat shaved off
 
Well some of those citizens are children. How many investors does Walmart have for their 1.6 million employees?

With Walmart's profit sharing program I'd say that easily a 1M are stock holders...
 
With Walmart's profit sharing program I'd say that easily a 1M are stock holders...
So 1.6 employees for every shareholder. Even if only half the US citizens are investors in the government that is 85.25 taxpayers for 1 employee.
 
There are plenty of things on Amazon that have free shipping even if you don't have Prime.

But that's really not the point. With the mail, you pay to ship it, not receive it. Amazon could easily have a reverse Prime for people like Joel who want to send lots of letters. No stamps required.
LOL...check out this guy...he thinks he's not paying for shipping. That Amazon sends things for free on THEIR dime.
 
So 1.6 employees for every shareholder. Even if only half the US citizens are investors in the government that is 85.25 taxpayers for 1 employee.

If the Walmart employee to shareholder ratio is 1.6:1,.. then I believe "half" would made the citizen to taxpayer ratio 2:1...
 
The idea that the federal government has become bloated with employees is largely a myth. The actual federal workforce hasn't grown much. Spending has increased but it is not because we have hired boatloads of federal workers. We have more contractors. A lot of the federal "bloat" is going to private companies that are funded by the federal government.
 
If the Walmart employee to shareholder ratio is 1.6:1,.. then I believe "half" would made the citizen to taxpayer ratio 2:1...
This is my math. Tell me where I went wrong.

Walmart investors 1,000,000
Walmart employees1,600,000

Employees/Investors=1.6 employees per investor
Investors/Employees= .625 investors per 1 employee

US Taxpayers 170,000,000
US Employees 2,000,000

Employees/Taxpayers = .0118 employees per taxpayer
Taxpayers/Employees = 85 taxpayers per 1 employee
 
This is my math. Tell me where I went wrong.

Walmart investors 1,000,000
Walmart employees1,600,000

Employees/Investors=1.6 employees per investor
Investors/Employees= .625 investors per 1 employee

US Taxpayers 170,000,000
US Employees 2,000,000

Employees/Taxpayers = .0118 employees per taxpayer
Taxpayers/Employees = 85 taxpayers per 1 employee

Your math is fine,.. Difference here is that you are comparing US government employees to US taxpayers, while I am comparing US citizens to US taxpayers... That is what the original "half" comment was pointed at.
 
Your math is fine,.. Difference here is that you are comparing US government employees to US taxpayers, while I am comparing US citizens to US taxpayers... That is what the original "half" comment was pointed at.
And I only used half the American citizens in my math. If we include all citizens there are over 170 American citizens for every government employee.
 
As part of the deal, Amazon would absorb the USPS and all their facilities and trucks, as well as any postal workers who wanted to come along for the ride.

Oh, and the union would go away, too.

Man, I can just smell the efficiencies here.....
Putting even more power into a super huge company has zero downsides. Sounds like too big to fail to me.
 
Speaking of Musk, all the haters were sure that Twitter was going to burn to the ground after he took over and started cleaning house.

I just checked, and the website/app is still functioning.
I had enough and left it. It's flooded with bots, porn, and terrible takes. The pay for amplification finally did me in.

Imagine every single tweet is responded by 15 shitty memes that only H4AD finds funny.

I couldn't take it anymore.
 
I had enough and left it. It's flooded with bots, porn, and terrible takes. The pay for amplification finally did me in.

Imagine every single tweet is responded by 15 shitty memes that only H4AD finds funny.

I couldn't take it anymore.
I’ve never joined. So many people on here link it I don’t feel like I need to.
 
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Think about how wrong that is.

Over two million federal workers in 2024. And this is just civilian workers. If uniformed military members were included it would be even worse.

Walmart is #2 with 1.6 million workers nationwide. Amazon follows with 1.1 million U.S. employees, more than double UPS which is the third largest private employer (443,000 employees).

Walt Disney World is the largest single-site employer in the U.S. with 80,000 cast members.
That in itself is the problem.
 
I find it interesting to focus on a couple bucks lost on paper for a guy that’s net worth fluctuates up and down by the more than the value of twitter on a month to month basis.
I find it interesting that you ignore the failure that is/was Twitter due to Musk's leadership.
 
You find it interesting that I don’t care about the success or failure of a service that I do not use?
Yes. I find it interesting that you are oblivious that the leader of that huge failure is overseeing the dismantling of the Federal Government.
 
Yes. I find it interesting that you are oblivious that the leader of that huge failure is overseeing the dismantling of the Federal Government.

So what I gather you are saying is that Elon has single handily decrease the size, reach, and amount of money that twitter has.

…and now he is bringing that ability to the US Government.

Yes please.
 
So what I gather you are saying is that Elon has single handily decrease the size, reach, and amount of money that twitter has.

…and now he is bringing that ability to the US Government.

Yes please.
Now I find your lack of reason interesting.
 
Think about how wrong that is.

Over two million federal workers in 2024. And this is just civilian workers. If uniformed military members were included it would be even worse.

Walmart is #2 with 1.6 million workers nationwide. Amazon follows with 1.1 million U.S. employees, more than double UPS which is the third largest private employer (443,000 employees).

Walt Disney World is the largest single-site employer in the U.S. with 80,000 cast members.
So instead of finding ways for government work to actually happen more efficiently through synergy and system leverage, you are in favor of breaking responsibility and funding into 50 different pieces or even worse privatization where gross margin outweighs public good.

See what services Iowa can provide when the state exodus of people and jobs continue. How far is too far to drive to school or a hospital or get mail?

Who in the state decides standard work week, vacation time, who can vote or legal age of consent. The haves end up bending over the have nots. If you are posting here you are most definitely a have not.
 
Now I find your lack of reason interesting.

Based on my last snark comment I lack reasoning?

Why because I probably have a few different political opinions than you?

The unprovable thing I know to be true is that we are all wrong, and a couple hundred years from some other fools will be posting on this forum, under its 4,284 name change, and be pulling up our old posts and laughing about what rubes we were.

I miss the days when when it was ok to have different opinions.
 
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