The future of NIL?

[Pilsner]

If billionaires like Phil Knight (Oregon) and Dennis Albaugh (Iowa State) can bankroll the NIL of schools they have a passion for or connection to, how long until billionaires without connections to a particular school start throwing their money around? These guys tend to be competitive, and professional sports has shown us they sometimes like to throw their money around in order to associate with a winner. College NIL could become analogous to buying a professional sports franchise for the ego kick (winning championships) but without some of the other revenue payoffs or tax breaks. Would it be worth it?

And would this support be limited to U.S. billionaires? Is there any legal or practical reason (other than a school turning up their nose at the impropriety of it all), for example, that a Saudi or Emirati prince couldn't decide to fund a school's NIL?

 

[HawkLogic]

If billionaires like Phil Knight (Oregon) and Dennis Albaugh (Iowa State) can bankroll the NIL of schools they have a passion for or connection to, how long until billionaires without connections to a particular school start throwing their money around? These guys tend to be competitive, and professional sports has shown us they sometimes like to throw their money around in order to associate with a winner. College NIL could become analogous to buying a professional sports franchise for the ego kick (winning championships) but without some of the other revenue payoffs or tax breaks. Would it be worth it?

And would this support be limited to U.S. billionaires? Is there any legal or practical reason (other than a school turning up their nose at the impropriety of it all), for example, that a Saudi or Emirati prince couldn't decide to fund a school's NIL?

the Ex-Milwaukee Buck's owner/investor Marc Lasry is pitching something like this that Schools sell off their sports team rights for teams to private equity.

The more college football movie towards the NIL model, the less I'm interested in watching. What is the point of these athletes even attending class at "their" school anymore.

 

[icwesthawk]

There is no future with NIL

 

[doughuddl2]

the Ex-Milwaukee Buck's owner/investor Marc Lasry is pitching something like this that Schools sell off their sports team rights for teams to private equity.

The more college football movie towards the NIL model, the less I'm interested in watching. What is the point of these athletes even attending class at "their" school anymore.

I feel differently. If Iowa had an XFL team with former players I'd be all in for that.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

If you are a fan of truly amateur sports limited to actual student athletes playing just for the desire to play there are other options. DIII is one.

FBS football and D1 men's bball hasn't been classic amateur for years. What's changed now is that the dollars are bigger and it's nearly all out in the open. If you're bothered by it now then it's about the extent of it and the amounts of money involved, not that there is pay for play. We've all been watching de facto semi-pro sports for a long time.

 

[Madman_1]

There is no future with NIL

They should change the label from "NIL". The moniker "Name, Image, Likeness" is a mockery of what is really going on.

 

[littlez]

If billionaires like Phil Knight (Oregon) and Dennis Albaugh (Iowa State) can bankroll the NIL of schools they have a passion for or connection to, how long until billionaires without connections to a particular school start throwing their money around? These guys tend to be competitive, and professional sports has shown us they sometimes like to throw their money around in order to associate with a winner. College NIL could become analogous to buying a professional sports franchise for the ego kick (winning championships) but without some of the other revenue payoffs or tax breaks. Would it be worth it?

And would this support be limited to U.S. billionaires? Is there any legal or practical reason (other than a school turning up their nose at the impropriety of it all), for example, that a Saudi or Emirati prince couldn't decide to fund a school's NIL?

How good was Oregon this year?

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

But at some point don’t the gajillionaires get to a point where they say “what’s the point?” I mean great, you bought 12 national championships because you paid for the best players. Doesn’t that get old/boring at some point?

I’ll have stopped caring long before it could get to that point but still..

 

[ichawk24]

The song is different but the tune is the same. Money has always driven college football and recruiting.

The big schools with large fanbases will continue to dominate. Some super rich guy isn't making East Carolina a 7-time national title winner.

And no one is going to use money to win 12 national titles. There are other guys spending to win, too.

 

[hawkjt]

If you are a fan of truly amateur sports limited to actual student athletes playing just for the desire to play there are other op,unlimited amenities tions. DIII is one.

FBS football and D1 men's bball hasn't been classic amateur for years. What's changed now is that the dollars are bigger and it's nearly all out in the open. If you're bothered by it now then it's about the extent of it and the amounts of money involved, not that there is pay for play. We've all been watching de facto semi-pro sports for a long time.

It is like that frog just enjoying an increasingly warmer bath until it reaches a boil and the game is over.
I suspect fan apathy is increasing with the loss of innocence playing a big part.
Fans were fine with lavish facilities, unlimited amenities, autos, 36k in annual stipends ect but buying players in a free agent market with unlimited transfers is a deal- breaker for many fans.
Sorry, but I disagree that the main difference is transparency.
Ironically, the NIL era is destroying the schools brand as the players are supposedly being paid for their brand.
Team sports used to be more about the TEAM and the school they represent ,not individuals.

The water is getting warmer and fans are dying off.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

NIL is for rich people.

There will never come a day when I give my money to a kid so he can earn more money than me to play a sport in college while also getting a free education.

It will never get that important to me.

 

[ichawk24]

It is like that frog just enjoying an increasingly warmer bath until it reaches a boil and the game is over.
I suspect fan apathy is increasing with the loss of innocence playing a big part.
Fans were fine with lavish facilities, unlimited amenities, autos, 36k in annual stipends ect but buying players in a free agent market with unlimited transfers is a deal- breaker for many fans.
Sorry, but I disagree that the main difference is transparency.
Ironically, the NIL era is destroying the schools brand as the players are supposedly being paid for their brand.
Team sports used to be more about the TEAM and the school they represent ,not individuals.

The water is getting warmer and fans are dying off.

College fooball hasn't been innocent for over a hundred years. Actually, it never was. It started as a gruesome sport with ringers, and still is.

Transparency, LOL. Everyone wants to know what other people are making, but don't want transparency on their own salary.

Grow up.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

NIL is for rich people.

There will never come a day when I give my money to a kid so he can earn more money than me to play a sport in college while also getting a free education.

It will never get that important to me.

FBS football and D1 men's basketball are pro sports. I wouldn't give money as a donation to a pro sports franchise.

 

[AmericaNeedsMe]

FBS football and D1 men's basketball are pro sports. I wouldn't give money as a donation to a pro sports franchise.

Buy tickets. Buy merch. Tune in. Cheer like hell.

THAT is supporting the program. Giving money donations on top of that is fine if that's your thing and you can afford it.

Many regular folks cannot, and many wealthy folks who could would rather their money go to reputable charities. There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of that.

Buy meals for hungry children...fund medical treatment for impoverished people.... or land that in demand top 30 pg and watch him wear diamond earrings and drive an Audi around campus?

Your money, your choice.

 

[Elliotthawk]

Buy tickets. Buy merch. Tune in. Cheer like hell.

THAT is supporting the program. Giving money donations on top of that is fine if that's your thing and you can afford it.

Many regular folks cannot, and many wealthy folks who could would rather their money go to reputable charities. There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of that.

Buy meals for hungry children...fund medical treatment for impoverished people.... or land that in demand top 30 pg and watch him wear diamond earrings and drive an Audi around campus?

Your money, your choice.

Major college athletics will have to follow the same model as professional sports. Salary caps for each school regardless of how money is available to pay out to the athletes. Also an equitable drafting, if you will, of high school and transfer athletes. Until then, insanity.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Major college athletics will have to follow the same model as professional sports. Salary caps for each school regardless of how money is available to pay out to the athletes. Also an equitable drafting, if you will, of high school and transfer athletes. Until then, insanity.

I don’t know the details but there is talk that the revenue sharing with the players deal will at least address SOME of the nil abuses going on now. That would be a positive if true.

 

[HawkLogic]

College fooball hasn't been innocent for over a hundred years. Actually, it never was. It started as a gruesome sport with ringers, and still is.

Transparency, LOL. Everyone wants to know what other people are making, but don't want transparency on their own salary.

Grow up.

True, the last time there was a level playing field in Football, Iowa was pulling shenanigans to get Alex Karras in the 1950s. . That was last time we were competitive for Nationa title in football. The last time Iowa could have won a National title in B-ball was 1987, and there are rumors that Raveling worked with some money guy out of Michigan to get us Marble and BJ.

College sports may have always been dirty, but now it is dirtier and no one is even trying to be a student athlete. I will say our guy Cooper Dejean that won a SuperBowl was a student athlete and someone with class. We're moving towards a system where Iowa is a permanent bottom feeder and there are few student athletes to cheer for, just pro mercenaries. I don't think anyone needs to grow up just because they have a different opinion/take there your view.

 

[littlez]

Relax chicken little. We’re in the lucky sperm club of the top 2 conferences. Bottom feeder to who? We’ve been far from a bottom feeder for a long time in either FB or bball. Had a bad year this year after lots of above average years. We’ll be fine moving forward under the right leadership.

 

[fehfkf]

True, the last time there was a level playing field in Football, Iowa was pulling shenanigans to get Alex Karras in the 1950s. . That was last time we were competitive for Nationa title in football.

This also during single platoon football. Evy had concerns that Iowa would be able to compete at that level when 2 platoon football became reality

 

[Ladell-hawk]

True, the last time there was a level playing field in Football, Iowa was pulling shenanigans to get Alex Karras in the 1950s. . That was last time we were competitive for Nationa title in football. The last time Iowa could have won a National title in B-ball was 1987, and there are rumors that Raveling worked with some money guy out of Michigan to get us Marble and BJ.

College sports may have always been dirty, but now it is dirtier and no one is even trying to be a student athlete. I will say our guy Cooper Dejean that won a SuperBowl was a student athlete and someone with class. We're moving towards a system where Iowa is a permanent bottom feeder and there are few student athletes to cheer for, just pro mercenaries. I don't think anyone needs to grow up just because they have a different opinion/take there your view.

Unless you can provide factual information you shouldn’t defame Raveling. Repeating BS isn’t factual.

 

[littlez]

Unless you can provide factual information you shouldn’t defame Raveling. Repeating BS isn’t factual.

The entire Big Ten except possibly NW was cheating in those days. Cmon man.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

The entire Big Ten except possibly NW was cheating in those days. Cmon man.

BS

 

[littlez]

BS

So why is it that some of you guys think every other school cheats or cheated but not Iowa?

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Sports is best when there is a level playing field. the NFL is a pretty good example, and it's the most popular sport in the US.

With NIL, the playing field is not close to level. It's always been tilted to the blue bloods, but now wins are up for sale to the highest payor.

I mourn the demise of college sports.

 

[hawkjt]

So why is it that some of you guys think every other school cheats or cheated but not Iowa?

So you have proof that dr. Tom and Hayden were paying cash to players?
We always heard about bagmen in sec recruiting which involved organized booster groups pooling cash to buy recruits.
You are saying Iowa had a similar program?
Where are they now and why are. we 18th in NIL with such a strong booster contributor culture?

Did Jess settles make hundreds of thousands in hidden cash payments?
Hope he declared that income.

Sorry, not buying.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

So why is it that some of you guys think every other school cheats or cheated but not Iowa?

I never said anything about any other school. I am still waiting for some factual information about the accusations against Raveling. Didn’t think anyone had any.

 

[joelbc1]

the Ex-Milwaukee Buck's owner/investor Marc Lasry is pitching something like this that Schools sell off their sports team rights for teams to private equity.

The more college football movie towards the NIL model, the less I'm interested in watching. What is the point of these athletes even attending class at "their" school anymore.

These kids don’t have to go to school to play, truth be known. This system is fraught with chances to fraud and scam….and athletics bring what it is, will allow itself to be used. Not all schools are ethical…. And the ove thing the U of Iowa does is play by the rules. The school has learned its lessons over the years and the school’s administration won’t tolerate in-compliance. Sadly, there are vultures out there.