The Iowa INT

[Beattheohiostate]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

 

[BigOHawk]

Not sure if posted and doesn't really matter but check the game tape where Mizzou lined up on the Iowa 4th and inches...at least one guy clearly offsides. I got Outback Bowl vibes from this crew, was really bad both ways IMO.

 

[uihawk82]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

Looking back the best defense at times would have had a blitzer or delayed blitz right up the middle to quickly flush their qb and the DEnds rushing just enough on the outside shoulder of the OTackle to contain.

We tried a spy on at least a few plays and they ended up guarding Green Grass. Either blitz or play back

And if you blitz play tight coverage at the snap so there are no quick dump offs available..

 

[littlez]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

All true.

 

[kceasthawk]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

True, and part of the problem when neither the QB or WR has played in 6-8 weeks. I'd agree that PP needed to go after Cook after the 1Q he got way to comfortable.

 

[MitchLL]

Parker is a better coach than what we saw this year.

I'm guessing there's something going on behind the scenes.

Top to bottom failure this year.
The signature win was over a 7-5 Gopher team.

 

[the24fan]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

Phil was trying to do what Iowa always does . Force a team on a long drive and hope they screw up . Problem is most the time against good teams that doesn’t happen. But not to adjust at all is criminally negligent.

 

[BonzoFury]

Parker is a better coach than what we saw this year.

I'm guessing there's something going on behind the scenes.

Top to bottom failure this year.
The signature win was over a 7-5 Gopher team.

On that thought...what might it be? Have people finally had it with the shitty offense? Kirk's stubbornness? Is it apparent that he's slipping? Do the coaches know he's just chasing the record? It's no fun to go to work when you know that mediocre and the same ol' sh** is not gonna change and your leader is falling behind.

Here's a quick question: Who are the leaders on this team? My guess is the name Higgins immediately comes up. After that? Nobody on offense. QB is usually the center of your team, offensively, leadership-wise, etc. QB has been a revolving door of poor to below average for a couple of years. That kills the spirit of a team.

 

[swagsurfer02]

Phil was trying to do what Iowa always does . Force a team on a long drive and hope they screw up . Problem is most the time against good teams that doesn’t happen. But not to adjust at all is criminality negligent .

This may be the reason for the large point disparities when we play good (ranked) teams.

 

[MitchLL]

If I'm PP, I'm listening to other job offers.

 

[jonesy5960]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

I would have also liked to see Phil run some blitzes to make the QB a little bit uncomfortable. With that said, the defense didnt play that bad. Missouri only ran for 89 yards on 2.7 per carry. Total yardage was below their season average as were the total points allowed.

Sullivan deserves criticism for his second half play just as he deserves credit for his first half. He looked pretty lost out there. The oline pass protection wasn't very good but he was very quick to move at times when the pressure wasn't there yet. He was definitely rattled. He completed 6 passes for 43 yards in an entire half of football. The bottom line is Iowa HAS to be able to score more than 3 points in that second half and they couldn't. That was the difference in the game.

 

[littlez]

I would have also liked to see Phil run some blitzes to make the QB a little bit uncomfortable. With that said, the defense didnt play that bad. Missouri only ran for 89 yards on 2.7 per carry. Total yardage was below their season average as were the total points allowed.

Sullivan deserves criticism for his second half play just as he deserves credit for his first half. He looked pretty lost out there. The oline pass protection wasn't very good but he was very quick to move at times when the pressure wasn't there yet. He was definitely rattled. He completed 6 passes for 43 yards in an entire half of football. The bottom line is Iowa HAS to be able to score more than 3 points in that second half and they couldn't. That was the difference in the game.

I’ve said this multiple times. When you can make a team 1 dimensional like we did yesterday you should win the game. Missouri converted multiple 3rd and longs because Phil thought he was playing Wisconsin. 3rd and longs should be to the defense’s advantage. But sitting in a soft zone and not rushing against a strong passing game was a terrible decision.

 

[spiderland]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

I thought very similarly at the time. The Mizzou DB made a play. It’s pretty rare that you see an Iowa receiver “make” a play. That about sums it up.

 

[NI hawk]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

Thought same thing about V Zee after I saw replay.

 

[obfuscating]

True, and part of the problem when neither the QB or WR has played in 6-8 weeks. I'd agree that PP needed to go after Cook after the 1Q he got way to comfortable.

Sure seems like after the broyles award, the defense slipped.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

On int Washington went out to left flat uncovered. Bad miss by Sullivan. Problem with him too often first read covered he looks to run instead of look for 2nd 3rd options.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

On int Washington went out to left flat uncovered. Bad miss by Sullivan. Problem with him too often first read covered he looks to run instead of look for 2nd 3rd options.

This is not a Sullivan problem. This is a systemic problem that goes back as... CJ or Stanzi or even maybe Tate? I don't know.

I am sure this will elicit comments from our Nebraska trolls but the only player that stared down wrs more was Raiola. I'm not saying this because it's them. I was screaming from my seat that it was so easy to read where he was going but we never jumped routes.

 

[10kHawk]

Our shallow WR room forced Vander Zee to ply before he was physically ready

 

[kceasthawk]

I would have also liked to see Phil run some blitzes to make the QB a little bit uncomfortable. With that said, the defense didnt play that bad. Missouri only ran for 89 yards on 2.7 per carry. Total yardage was below their season average as were the total points allowed.

Sullivan deserves criticism for his second half play just as he deserves credit for his first half. He looked pretty lost out there. The oline pass protection wasn't very good but he was very quick to move at times when the pressure wasn't there yet. He was definitely rattled. He completed 6 passes for 43 yards in an entire half of football. The bottom line is Iowa HAS to be able to score more than 3 points in that second half and they couldn't. That was the difference in the game.

Excellent post. The pass pro could have been better, but often he was seeing ghosts, and pulling it down before the play developed. We ran the ball pretty darn well, so he just had to be decent to score some points in the half. They certainly turned up the pressure on him in the second half, which is what we should have done to Cook...

 

[jonesy5960]

I’ve said this multiple times. When you can make a team 1 dimensional like we did yesterday you should win the game. Missouri converted multiple 3rd and longs because Phil thought he was playing Wisconsin. 3rd and longs should be to the defense’s advantage. But sitting in a soft zone and not rushing against a strong passing game was a terrible decision.

So here's the thing on this. This is only an accurate statement when the team you're playing is one dimensional. Take away Iowa's running game and they are toast because they can't pass the ball. They're coming in as a one dimensional offense. Missouri is not a one dimensional offense. They can beat you with the run or the pass. Iowa shutting down the run didn't shut down the Missouri passing game. This is the difference between a real offense and what Iowa has today.

 

[littlez]

So here's the thing on this. This is only an accurate statement when the team you're playing is one dimensional. Take away Iowa's running game and they are toast because they can't pass the ball. They're coming in as a one dimensional offense. Missouri is not a one dimensional offense. They can beat you with the run or the pass. Iowa shutting down the run didn't shut down the Missouri passing game. This is the difference between a real offense and what Iowa has today.

That’s basically Iowa’s goal going into every game is to make a team 1 dimensional. Theoretically if you force teams into multiple 3rd and longs the defense should have the advantage. Force the QB to make a mistake. Unfortunately we couldn’t (or wouldn’t) get any pressure on Cook so he was playing pitch and catch most of the day.

 

[jonesy5960]

That’s basically Iowa’s goal going into every game is to make a team 1 dimensional. Theoretically if you force teams into multiple 3rd and longs the defense should have the advantage. Force the QB to make a mistake. Unfortunately we couldn’t (or wouldn’t) get any pressure on Cook so he was playing pitch and catch most of the day.

My point was that making a team one dimensional doesn't guarantee a win unless that team is already one dimensional. Iowa did a fine job of taking away the run, holding them to their second lowest run total of the year. As you noted however they were unable to shut down the passing game. In the second half Missouri made the defensive adjustments to shut down the Iowa running game in order to force Iowa to throw the ball and it was game over at that point. That's been the case for pretty much the last 3 years and will in all likelihood be the case next year without some portal help.

 

[ItsAllBallBearingsNowadays]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

The only defense I’ll offer Vanderzee is he’s a true freshman and he was probably trying to hold the line of the first down. If he would’ve kept coming forward, he would’ve lost the necessary yardage to get the first down.

 

[JLDHAWK]

Looking back the best defense at times would have had a blitzer or delayed blitz right up the middle to quickly flush their qb and the DEnds rushing just enough on the outside shoulder of the OTackle to contain.

We tried a spy on at least a few plays and they ended up guarding Green Grass. Either blitz or play back

And if you blitz play tight coverage at the snap so there are no quick dump offs available..

I watched Higgins all day go up to line of scrimmage and stand around when he should have been dropping back. Also agree with you on blitzing. One or the other. Honestly thought we should have pulled himand played a DB.

 

[littlez]

My point was that making a team one dimensional doesn't guarantee a win unless that team is already one dimensional. Iowa did a fine job of taking away the run, holding them to their second lowest run total of the year. As you noted however they were unable to shut down the passing game. In the second half Missouri made the defensive adjustments to shut down the Iowa running game in order to force Iowa to throw the ball and it was game over at that point. That's been the case for pretty much the last 3 years and will in all likelihood be the case next year without some portal help.

They didn’t really ever stop our running game. Moulton and Jazz averaged over 7 yards a carry. We stopped running them in key situations, which was on Lester. He outsmarted himself.

 

[uihawk82]

I watched Higgins all day go up to line of scrimmage and stand around when he should have been dropping back. Also agree with you on blitzing. One or the other. Honestly thought we should have pulled himand played a DB.

I think Higgins was the spy on the qb on a lot of plays so you are not blitzing and not dropping and a lot of times when the qb doesnt run they you are standing there guarding grass. I agree with you though

 

[JLDHAWK]

I think Higgins was the spy on the qb on a lot of plays so you are not blitzing and not dropping and a lot of times when the qb doesnt run they you are standing there guarding grass. I agree with you though

Oh yeah he totally was but was a wasted player on every pass play it seemed like. I thought he got to close to the line of scrimmage a lot which wasn't even a good a good spy position

 

[littlez]

Yep, we were basically playing 10 on 11 most of the time. He wasn’t blitzing and he wasn’t covering anyone. Made zero sense to leave your All big Ten and all American in that position. It’s not like Cook is Michael Vick. If you’re having the d line basically play contain and not rush why are you spying Higgins?

 

[IowaHawk1994]

Vander Zee stood flat footed and let the DB slip around him. That's middle school stuff. And Vander Zee was a basketball player, so there's no excuse for that. In any sport, you don't stand there and wait for the pass. You go meet it. And if VZ had done that, the worst that would have happened was an incompletion. So objectively speaking, that INT was just as much on the intended receiver as it was on the QB.

Sullivan seems to be taking a lot of criticism. And sure, he made mistakes, but so did the Missouri QB. But he got away with them. Sullivan made some great plays with both his arm and his feet. Plain and simple. But what about the coaches? What about the play calling the second half? What about Parker refusing to put ANY pressure on the Missouri QB with some well-timed blitzes? That was bullshit. Missouri had all freakin' day to throw. Iowa made NO defensive adjustments the second half, and the offensive adjustments were to ride a 10-point lead, typical KF play not to lose. That can work against the Big Ten West. It doesn't work against good football teams. You could look it up.

Play Iowa high school stiffs that couldn’t play at Drake, you get this
QuinnSchulte was a joke playing safety and got to run up and touch the pile real fast for 6 years while doing nothing else
Not a serious program