The most rediculous CFB list ever

[madmax1191]

Have you ever seen a list that is this mind bogglingly pathetic? We all know by now Athlons and their scrub group of sports writers are clueless but seems like a blantent attempt to insult our/ everyone's intelligence.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-128-college-football-head-coaches-2016

 

[madmax1191]

Not that I'm intelligent. I'm talkin bout the rest of y'all

 

[agr1858]

Yeah he's better than 19, the top 11 coaches are pretty good though. I would have him somewhere between 9-12.

 

[Herkmeister]

Have you ever seen a list that is this mind bogglingly pathetic? We all know by now Athlons and their scrub group of sports writers are clueless but seems like a blantent attempt to insult our/ everyone's intelligence.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-128-college-football-head-coaches-2016

That was pretty interesting to say the least Madmax. And I think I'm inclined to agree with you. But it is hard to rate coaches. Dabo at #9? And Lovie Smith, talk about no respect. This would be a really tough list to make. It boils down to: You are who your record says you are. But boy, some new guys certainly received little or no respect.

 

[Fade-To-Black]

Seems like a plausible list to me. Could shuffle a few around, but overall reasonable ranking in my eyes.

 

[Lone Clone]

I'd put Snyder higher, but there are a lot of criteria.

 

[HoundedHawk]

After reading "rediculous" and "bogglingly" from the title and post, respectively, I'm not sure who is clueless.

 

[madmax1191]

After reading "rediculous" and "bogglingly" from the title and post, respectively, I'm not sure who is clueless.

You got me.

 

[Gridiron24]

this article is trash. It belongs on the store shelves next to the NFL Quarterback rankings mags and the drivel that only fat, loud women who frequent hair salons buy

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I didn't see anything too shocking in there

 

[ChiDoc]

Yeah he's better than 19, the top 11 coaches are pretty good though. I would have him somewhere between 9-12.

Based on what? You realize this doesn't only count the regular season right? Top 10 coaches don't get destroyed in back to back bowl seasons. The top 11 all have resumes that run circles around his. Who are the 3 among them that you are saying he could be ahead of then?

 

[DarkThunder#61]

Have you ever seen a list that is this mind bogglingly pathetic? We all know by now Athlons and their scrub group of sports writers are clueless but seems like a blantent attempt to insult our/ everyone's intelligence.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-128-college-football-head-coaches-2016

Not sure if anyone else has already mentioned this but I believe this was a topic, not KF specifically, on the main board, and it was mentioned that he was somewhere around 100 before last year......

So basically if you win you're an amazing mastermind of coaching, and if you struggle and the media picks up on the high volume of in-fighting that takes place within that fanbase about said coach....then he's among the worst in the business.........

Make sense?

 

[J_Heater]

Based on what? You realize this doesn't only count the regular season right? Top 10 coaches don't get destroyed in back to back bowl seasons. The top 11 all have resumes that run circles around his. Who are the 3 among them that you are saying he could be ahead of then?

Overall I don't really care where the list ranks KF but if your criteria for being a Top 10 coach is not getting blown out in back to back bowl seasons, then you need to take Stoops off the list. He's lost his last two appearance in pretty bad fashion. Jimbo Fisher as well even though last years bowl loss wasn't overly huge in blow out fashion it was to Houston.

 

[agr1858]

Based on what? You realize this doesn't only count the regular season right? Top 10 coaches don't get destroyed in back to back bowl seasons. The top 11 all have resumes that run circles around his. Who are the 3 among them that you are saying he could be ahead of then?

BTW, I'm a cyclone fan, so I wasn't trying to be a sunshine pumping homer. I certainly respect the success KF has had with developing talent, because there's a number of coaches that tend to do less with more. I'd say he's proven an ability to do more with less. If I were to make an argument for him being 3 spots higher, the coaches I'd possibly put behind him would be:
1) Jim Harbaugh- Hasn't proven much yet
2) and 3) Brian Kelley/David Shaw - How can you not be successful at ND and Stanford? Has their success been better than expected?

 

[shoot_the_three]

I might take David Shaw over any other Head Coach in the nation. The list of coaches that couldn't win at Stanford is a long one.

 

[agr1858]

I might take David Shaw over any other Head Coach in the nation. The list of coaches that couldn't win at Stanford is a long one.

You could be right, that's just my perception, right or wrong.

 

[ChiDoc]

BTW, I'm a cyclone fan, so I wasn't trying to be a sunshine pumping homer. I certainly respect the success KF has had with developing talent, because there's a number of coaches that tend to do less with more. I'd say he's proven an ability to do more with less. If I were to make an argument for him being 3 spots higher, the coaches I'd possibly put behind him would be:
1) Jim Harbaugh- Hasn't proven much yet
2) and 3) Brian Kelley/David Shaw - How can you not be successful at ND and Stanford? Has their success been better than expected?

Problem with that methodology, is it's his responsibility not to have "less" in the first place. Iowa has a tremendous amount of resources and fan support, it's not the easiest job, but it's also a long long way from the hardest. Look at where Alabama was before Saban, the fact they barely beat Iowa freaking State in a bowl game and may have even lost due to that FG being too close to call should tell you everything, they were 67-55 in the ten years preceding Saban! There are plenty of other examples of it being much harder to win at top schools that prove that narrative to be clearly false. Also, if you want to use that narrative, which I don't agree with, then you can't ignore his horrendous record against Iowa State either and have to penalize him heavily there which puts him out of the top 15 or so easily. You could make an argument with putting him above Harbaugh I guess, considering his NFL accomplishments are debatable in their relevancy due to the jobs being totally different, but most people would strongly disagree with Kelly and Shaw. Kelly had Cincy ranked in the top 20 in all 3 years he coached there and was 5-1 on the road against ranked with the Bearcats, that's extremely impressive. We all saw Shaw vs KF a few months ago, so that's equally absurd.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Harbaugh won 11 games twice at San Diego, then went 12-1, couple top 25 years beating up on Pete Caroll's USC teams at Stanford. Pretty impressive college football coach before the NFL, that's where all the hype came from before he even coached a game at Michigan.

 

[ChiDoc]

Harbaugh won 11 games twice at San Diego, then went 12-1, couple top 25 years beating up on Pete Caroll's USC teams at Stanford. Pretty impressive college football coach before the NFL, that's where all the hype came from before he even coached a game at Michigan.

He still never won a conference title there despite having Andrew Luck, and was only 21-15 in conference at Stanford. He also inherited a talented veteran team last year yet was lucky to beat undermanned Minnesota and Indiana teams with far superior talent, and was absolutely humiliated by tOSU at home with a veteran roster loaded with 4 star players. Then he blows the game vs MSU and has the lack of class to throw his punter under the bus in the press conference after the game. The hype has clearly far outpaced his actual record without including his NFL time when you rank him at number 3.

 

[spbc7]

He still never won a conference title there despite having Andrew Luck, and was only 21-15 in conference at Stanford. He also inherited a talented veteran team last year yet was lucky to beat undermanned Minnesota and Indiana teams with far superior talent, and was absolutely humiliated by tOSU at home with a veteran roster loaded with 4 star players. Then he blows the game vs MSU and has the lack of class to throw his punter under the bus in the press conference after the game. The hype has clearly far outpaced his actual record without including his NFL time when you rank him at number 3.

He inherited a team that went 1-11. He only coached there for 4 years. A 21-15 conference record and 12-1 (8-1) final season is an incredible turn around.

Once again, he inherited a team that went 5-7 and turned them into a 10-3 team and capped it off with a dominant win over a very talented Florida team. You're argument is pretty damn weak that you have to resort to dissecting wins a coach had over bowl teams and losses he had to the conference champ and the most talented team in the nation/defending national champ.

 

[ChiDoc]

He inherited a team that went 1-11. He only coached there for 4 years. A 21-15 conference record and 12-1 (8-1) final season is an incredible turn around.

Once again, he inherited a team that went 5-7 and turned them into a 10-3 team and capped it off with a dominant win over a very talented Florida team. You're argument is pretty damn weak that you have to resort to dissecting wins a coach had over bowl teams and losses he had to the conference champ and the most talented team in the nation/defending national champ.

LMFAO, the person immediately ahead of him on the list, Urban Meyer, inherited a 6-7 team at Ohio State, and promptly went 12-0 the very next season, and only has 1 more loss in 4 seasons than Harbaugh had in year 1. Harbaugh has never won a major conference title, while EVERY other coach in the top 12 of that list has. The fact you want to pretend he didn't get badly out coached multiple times last year by people WAY below him on that list despite having a roster loaded with veteran 4 star players speaks volumes about weak arguments.

 

[spbc7]

LMFAO, the person immediately ahead of him on the list, Urban Meyer, inherited a 6-7 team at Ohio State, and promptly went 12-0 the very next season, and only has 1 more loss in 4 seasons than Harbaugh had in year 1. Harbaugh has never won a major conference title, while EVERY other coach in the top 12 of that list has. The fact you want to pretend he didn't get badly out coached multiple times last year by people WAY below him on that list despite having a roster loaded with veteran 4 star players speaks volumes about weak arguments.

Just a solid, well thought out argument here lol. That 12-0 Ohio State team played 2 teams that won more than 8 games (10-4 Nebraska and 10-4 UCF lol) all year. Talk about an easy schedule. That team also had the B1G offensive player of the year playing the most important position on the field. Urbs was easily set up for success. But since you like to dissect wins, take a look at their 7 point win at home against a brutal 3-9 Cal team lmao. What about the 1 point win over a 7-6 MSU with their worst QB in 15 years? Still not good enough? I could include the 3 point wins over 4-8 Indiana and OT win over 6-7 Purdue. Just to cap it all off is an OT win over 8-6 Wisconsin. Looks like Urbs got outcoached in around half of his games that year despite having a roster loaded with veteran 4 star players.

Michigan played five 10 win teams and 6 teams with more than 8 wins. Much harder schedule. 2012 OSU didn't play anybody nearly as good as MSU (which took a 1 in a million play to beat Michigan) or double-digit draft pick OSU.

Harbaugh has only been a D1 head coach for a total of 5 seasons. Saban didn't win a conference title in his first 5 seasons. The only reason Shaw has ever won one is because of what Harbaugh built. Not one coach on that list encountered as bad of a situation as he faced at Stanford and turned it into a powerhouse so quickly.

I would say he is one or two spots too high for now, but I would only put Swinney and possibly Dantonio ahead of him.

 

[iowanole1]

Just a solid, well thought out argument here lol. That 12-0 Ohio State team played 2 teams that won more than 8 games (10-4 Nebraska and 10-4 UCF lol) all year. Talk about an easy schedule. That team also had the B1G offensive player of the year playing the most important position on the field. Urbs was easily set up for success. But since you like to dissect wins, take a look at their 7 point win at home against a brutal 3-9 Cal team lmao. What about the 1 point win over a 7-6 MSU with their worst QB in 15 years? Still not good enough? I could include the 3 point wins over 4-8 Indiana and OT win over 6-7 Purdue. Just to cap it all off is an OT win over 8-6 Wisconsin. Looks like Urbs got outcoached in around half of his games that year despite having a roster loaded with veteran 4 star players.

Michigan played five 10 win teams and 6 teams with more than 8 wins. Much harder schedule. 2012 OSU didn't play anybody nearly as good as MSU (which took a 1 in a million play to beat Michigan) or double-digit draft pick OSU.

Harbaugh has only been a D1 head coach for a total of 5 seasons. Saban didn't win a conference title in his first 5 seasons. The only reason Shaw has ever won one is because of what Harbaugh built. Not one coach on that list encountered as bad of a situation as he faced at Stanford and turned it into a powerhouse so quickly.

I would say he is one or two spots too high for now, but I would only put Swinney and possibly Dantonio ahead of him.

You can't play both sides of the fence here. The only team Stanford played in the regular season during their 12-1 season that had double digit wins was Oregon ( which beat Stanford). Every other team they played had 8 or less wins. The Pac 12 was an average league outside of Oregon during Harbaughs two successful years at Stanford.

 

[Roy-munson]

Harbaugh is a great recruiter and a above average development and in game coach..every coach has there plus and minus.. But to me harbaugh coaches below his talent.. I haven't bought into the hype until he proves it..

 

[hawkssox1]

Have you ever seen a list that is this mind bogglingly pathetic? We all know by now Athlons and their scrub group of sports writers are clueless but seems like a blantent attempt to insult our/ everyone's intelligence.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-128-college-football-head-coaches-2016

Athlon is actually one of the better publications out there.Braden Gaul has done an excellent job.

 

[ChiDoc]

Just a solid, well thought out argument here lol. That 12-0 Ohio State team played 2 teams that won more than 8 games (10-4 Nebraska and 10-4 UCF lol) all year. Talk about an easy schedule. That team also had the B1G offensive player of the year playing the most important position on the field. Urbs was easily set up for success. But since you like to dissect wins, take a look at their 7 point win at home against a brutal 3-9 Cal team lmao. What about the 1 point win over a 7-6 MSU with their worst QB in 15 years? Still not good enough? I could include the 3 point wins over 4-8 Indiana and OT win over 6-7 Purdue. Just to cap it all off is an OT win over 8-6 Wisconsin. Looks like Urbs got outcoached in around half of his games that year despite having a roster loaded with veteran 4 star players.

Michigan played five 10 win teams and 6 teams with more than 8 wins. Much harder schedule. 2012 OSU didn't play anybody nearly as good as MSU (which took a 1 in a million play to beat Michigan) or double-digit draft pick OSU.

Harbaugh has only been a D1 head coach for a total of 5 seasons. Saban didn't win a conference title in his first 5 seasons. The only reason Shaw has ever won one is because of what Harbaugh built. Not one coach on that list encountered as bad of a situation as he faced at Stanford and turned it into a powerhouse so quickly.

I would say he is one or two spots too high for now, but I would only put Swinney and possibly Dantonio ahead of him.

POSSIBLY Dantonio?!?!? LMFAO! This is absolutely hilarious. He had a talented veteran team last year and still was lucky to beat Minnesota and Indiana. Urban Meyer DESTROYED him in his own stadium when he had a veteran roster full of 4 star players. If Jerry Kill had coached that game he would have lost to Minny last year. It took Urban Meyer 3 and a half seasons to lose that many games and you still throw out excuses about their 2012 schedule. You sound like another hilarious product of the Detroit School system, WOW! Elite coaches like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS when they have an elite player leading their team like Andrew Luck, Harbaugh couldn't even win his conference or even the Pac 12 North Division Luck's last year. Keep the comedy coming!

 

[spbc7]

You can't play both sides of the fence here. The only team Stanford played in the regular season during their 12-1 season that had double digit wins was Oregon ( which beat Stanford). Every other team they played had 8 or less wins. The Pac 12 was an average league outside of Oregon during Harbaughs two successful years at Stanford.

Was ChiDoc talking about him at Stanford? Nope. He was comparing his first season at Michigan to Urbs first season at OSU. If we would have been comparing his last year at Stanford (which had no relevance in his blatantly stupid argument about their first year), then it would have been "playing both sides of the fence." The only thing I've said about his Stanford tenure is how he lead one of the most impressive turnarounds of a horrible football program that the college game has ever seen.

 

[spbc7]

POSSIBLY Dantonio?!?!? LMFAO! This is absolutely hilarious. He had a talented veteran team last year and still was lucky to beat Minnesota and Indiana. Urban Meyer DESTROYED him in his own stadium when he had a veteran roster full of 4 star players. If Jerry Kill had coached that game he would have lost to Minny last year. It took Urban Meyer 3 and a half seasons to lose that many games and you still throw out excuses about their 2012 schedule. You sound like another hilarious product of the Detroit School system, WOW! Elite coaches like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS when they have an elite player leading their team like Andrew Luck, Harbaugh couldn't even win his conference or even the Pac 12 North Division Luck's last year. Keep the comedy coming!

Stupid is as stupid does I guess. Urban Meyer had a much more talented roster full of more 4* and more 5* players, all of which were guys he recruited to play his system. He had 12 players drafted from that team. TWELVE. Harbaugh was coaching Hoke's recruits and only 3 of those were drafted. The veteran talent gap was huge. I sure hope Urbs and JT Barrett could dominate that game.

The almighty Urban Meyer beat Northern Illinois by 7 at home with that same 12 draft pick roster. Lmao that is horrible. Do you not realize that OSU beat Indiana by the same amount as Michigan? I would bet not, as there doesn't appear to be much thought behind anything you've said.

Urban Meyer didn't win a national title in his 2nd year with Braxton Miller playing QB. He also didn't win one with sophomore or senior Tim Tebow. So much for that theory.

Harbaugh didn't coach Luck's last year. Another well thought out point by you. Luck's junior year there were less than 20 4* players on Stanford's roster, significantly less than any National Champion than since star rankings became popular.

 

[ChiDoc]

Stupid is as stupid does I guess. Urban Meyer had a much more talented roster full of more 4* and more 5* players, all of which were guys he recruited to play his system. He had 12 players drafted from that team. TWELVE. Harbaugh was coaching Hoke's recruits and only 3 of those were drafted. The veteran talent gap was huge. I sure hope Urbs and JT Barrett could dominate that game.

The almighty Urban Meyer beat Northern Illinois by 7 at home with that same 12 draft pick roster. Lmao that is horrible. Do you not realize that OSU beat Indiana by the same amount as Michigan? I would bet not, as there doesn't appear to be much thought behind anything you've said.

Urban Meyer didn't win a national title in his 2nd year with Braxton Miller playing QB. He also didn't win one with sophomore or senior Tim Tebow. So much for that theory.

Harbaugh didn't coach Luck's last year. Another well thought out point by you. Luck's junior year there were less than 20 4* players on Stanford's roster, significantly less than any National Champion than since star rankings became popular.

Now you're actually comparing Harbaugh's resume willingly to Urban Meyer's and thinking you will not come off as anything but a complete buffoon? Michigan had over FIFTY 4 & 5 star recruits on their roster last year! Good God you're freakishly ignorant, you've clearly lost touch with reality. This lack of talent excuse when the guy had over 50 elite recruits on his roster is so freaking hilarious that at this point I can only assume you're a troll out to make Michigan fans look bad.

 

[spbc7]

Now you're actually comparing Harbaugh's resume willingly to Urban Meyer's and thinking you will not come off as anything but a complete buffoon? Michigan had over FIFTY 4 & 5 star recruits on their roster last year! Good God you're freakishly ignorant, you've clearly lost touch with reality. This lack of talent excuse when the guy had over 50 elite recruits on his roster is so freaking hilarious that at this point I can only assume you're a troll out to make Michigan fans look bad.

I'm not the one who compared them, you are the one who said elite coaches win championships when they have elite players. Looks like there are several occasions where an elite coach couldn't win a title with an elite QB AND elite recruiting to go along with it.

Now go back to your homeboard little buddy, you clearly don't know how to make any sort of competent argument. We already got rid of Kilroy, we don't need another village idiot.

 

[spoke8]

You can't play both sides of the fence here. The only team Stanford played in the regular season during their 12-1 season that had double digit wins was Oregon ( which beat Stanford). Every other team they played had 8 or less wins. The Pac 12 was an average league outside of Oregon during Harbaughs two successful years at Stanford.

This...Ridiculous. Not too well informed. Beat ND in South Bend. If I were to ask about Kirks resume last year what would you say?
Why so tough to admit JH is a special coach? He is building a monster in Ann Arbor and if you don't see it coming, you are simply in denial.
The days of the big two may be long gone, but Michigan is going to give OSU a run soon.

 

[spoke8]

POSSIBLY Dantonio?!?!? LMFAO! This is absolutely hilarious. He had a talented veteran team last year and still was lucky to beat Minnesota and Indiana. Urban Meyer DESTROYED him in his own stadium when he had a veteran roster full of 4 star players. If Jerry Kill had coached that game he would have lost to Minny last year. It took Urban Meyer 3 and a half seasons to lose that many games and you still throw out excuses about their 2012 schedule. You sound like another hilarious product of the Detroit School system, WOW! Elite coaches like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS when they have an elite player leading their team like Andrew Luck, Harbaugh couldn't even win his conference or even the Pac 12 North Division Luck's last year. Keep the comedy coming!

...Actually, Harbaugh did win a share of the North in JH final season. And were you including Jake Rudock in that roster full of 4 star players? Remember him right?...Michigan is coming fast...better buckle up because Harbaugh will take them to a level you haven't seen in quite some time. Urban is a great coach. So is Harbaugh. Just be grateful ur in the West.

 

[ChiDoc]

Urban Meyer didn't win a national title in his 2nd year with Braxton Miller playing QB. He also didn't win one with sophomore or senior Tim Tebow. So much for that theory.

Could you be any more clueless?
Meyer went undefeated his first year with Braxton Miller and won a national title his first year with Tebow. You make Kilroy look like an intellectual.

 

[ChiDoc]

...Actually, Harbaugh did win a share of the North in JH final season.

LMFAO, weird considering Oregon beat Stanford 52-31 and Oregon represented the division in the conference title game, and Stanford doesn't list a division title that year. I guess you're probably used to researching technicalities though, that's what it takes to try to prop up Harbaugh and Michigan. I can't wait to hear the excuses after another season where Harbaugh doesn't come close to living up to the hype. I'm sure you and spbc will reference the fact Michigan only had 70 4 star recruits on their roster as not enough talent just like last year.

 

[spbc7]

Could you be any more clueless?
Meyer went undefeated his first year with Braxton Miller and won a national title his first year with Tebow. You make Kilroy look like an intellectual.

Did he win a title that year? That's what I thought. Did he win a title the year Tebow won the Heisman (which was also his first year as a starter)? That's what I thought. He went 9-4 lmao.

You could at least act like you're trying.

 

[iowanole1]

Was ChiDoc talking about him at Stanford? Nope. He was comparing his first season at Michigan to Urbs first season at OSU. If we would have been comparing his last year at Stanford (which had no relevance in his blatantly stupid argument about their first year), then it would have been "playing both sides of the fence." The only thing I've said about his Stanford tenure is how he lead one of the most impressive turnarounds of a horrible football program that the college game has ever seen.

You are acting as if Stanford had this long standing resume of failure prior to him going there. They were in the Rose bowl in 98 and a top 25 team when Willingham left. Hell, if Willingham can win at Stanford, than it's not some impossible place to win at, like you are making it seem. Harbaugh has won nothing of note in the college game.

 

[iowanole1]

This...Ridiculous. Not too well informed. Beat ND in South Bend. If I were to ask about Kirks resume last year what would you say?
Why so tough to admit JH is a special coach? He is building a monster in Ann Arbor and if you don't see it coming, you are simply in denial.
The days of the big two may be long gone, but Michigan is going to give OSU a run soon.

Haha, wasn't ND an 8 win team the year Harbaugh beat them @ ND? You're bragging about that? And I couldn't care less about Ferentz's resume since I'm not an Iowa fan.

As soon as Harbaugh wins something, he can be considered a special coach. The closest he comes to special right now is with his "special" actions of climbing trees and having creepy sleep overs with under aged boys.

 

[DarkThunder#61]

He inherited a team that went 1-11. He only coached there for 4 years. A 21-15 conference record and 12-1 (8-1) final season is an incredible turn around.

Once again, he inherited a team that went 5-7 and turned them into a 10-3 team and capped it off with a dominant win over a very talented Florida team. You're argument is pretty damn weak that you have to resort to dissecting wins a coach had over bowl teams and losses he had to the conference champ and the most talented team in the nation/defending national champ.

So basically he was like Kirk Ferentz if he had bolted for the NFL after the 2002 season......

 

[spoke8]

LMFAO, weird considering Oregon beat Stanford 52-31 and Oregon represented the division in the conference title game, and Stanford doesn't list a division title that year. I guess you're probably used to researching technicalities though, that's what it takes to try to prop up Harbaugh and Michigan. I can't wait to hear the excuses after another season where Harbaugh doesn't come close to living up to the hype. I'm sure you and spbc will reference the fact Michigan only had 70 4 star recruits on their roster as not enough talent just like last year.

Really, not "weird"...both had one loss in the North. Did JH live up to the hype last year? No excuses.Took Iowa's backup QB and won 10 games. I was impressed.

 

[spbc7]

You are acting as if Stanford had this long standing resume of failure prior to him going there. They were in the Rose bowl in 98 and a top 25 team when Willingham left. Hell, if Willingham can win at Stanford, than it's not some impossible place to win at, like you are making it seem. Harbaugh has won nothing of note in the college game.

Stanford had never won more than 10 games in a season and had only won 10 games once since 1940 when Harbaugh got there. Seems like very few have found success there.

Also, it's a ranking of coaches, not ranking of coaching accomplishments. His D1 tenure is rather short compared to the rest of the top of the list. Very few coaches in college football I would take ahead of Harbaugh.