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*****The official 2024 Presidential election day and results thread*****

Didn't have "The USA should've let Hitler exterminate the Jews" on my HBOT bingo card tonight....nice job!

‘Let’, as if we somehow prevented the Germans from killing 6 million Jews or 20 million Russians in the interventionists’ timeline.

If we don’t make the mistake of intervening in WW1 you don’t even have WW2.

So really, the interventionists deserve the ‘credit’ for all the consequences of their ill considered adventures if we’re going to assign blame.

If the USA isn’t entering the war in April of 1917, do the Germans even put Lenin on a train to Russia? Imagine avoiding all of that horror for the world!
 
‘Let’, as if we somehow prevented the Germans from killing 6 million Jews or 20 million Russians in the interventionists’ timeline.

If we don’t make the mistake of intervening in WW1 you don’t even have WW2.

So really, the interventionists deserve the ‘credit’ for all the consequences of their ill considered adventures if we’re going to assign blame.

If the USA isn’t entering the war in April of 1917, do the Germans even put Lenin on a train to Russia? Imagine avoiding all of that horror for the world!
Boy do I hate overextended causation chains. Way too tolstoyan for me.
 
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Wow. Chris Matthews just now absolutely ripping Biden/Harris for illegal immigration being the singular cause as to why they lost, (central PA being his prime example).

Let the finger pointing begin.
 
They didn't see "through" her. They saw her. Black skin, woman. And they said nope.

America has not progressed as far as one would have hoped.

Kamala lied in nearly every ad and interview. She didn't fool the voters.

It must have been all of those racist minorities that cost her the election.
 
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Kamala lied in nearly every ad and interview. She didn't fool the voters.

It must have been all of those racist minorities that cost her the election.
Disagree on her dishonesty.

You voted for Trump for his honesty? Holy shit, man if true.
 
‘Let’, as if we somehow prevented the Germans from killing 6 million Jews or 20 million Russians in the interventionists’ timeline.

If we don’t make the mistake of intervening in WW1 you don’t even have WW2.

So really, the interventionists deserve the ‘credit’ for all the consequences of their ill considered adventures if we’re going to assign blame.

If the USA isn’t entering the war in April of 1917, do the Germans even put Lenin on a train to Russia? Imagine avoiding all of that horror for the world!
You’re spinning your wheels.

Most Americans grasp of history goes back to the latest mainstream media soundbite seen on TV and is cursory, at best.

The Ukraine/Russia conflict being a prime example.
 
Wow. Chris Matthews just now absolutely ripping Biden/Harris for illegal immigration being the singular cause as to why they lost, (central PA being his prime example).

Let the finger pointing begin.

I was watching this. He went beyond this point, too. Great segment where he clearly explained why the Democrat message doesn't resonate with most regular people, and he didn't have to insult them to do it. Should absolutely be required watching every single morning at the DNC from today on.
 
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On point. As dishonest as an interlocutor comes.
Then it will be easy for you to point out what I said that was dishonest.

Aside from enriching bankers and arms merchants, what did America 'buy' with all the corpses we supplied to WW1?

If you think that war wasn't coming for us eventually you are woefully misinformed.

Just like when we didn't take part in the campaigns against Napoleon, right?

I'll note your opinion that the Allies' defense of freedom in the face of absolute tyranny was a fool's errand. Respectfully, I disagree.
Dude, you think Churchill was fighting for India's 'freedom'?
You have bought the interventionists' propaganda hook, line and sinker, and frankly seem incapable of considering any other path, much less giving the interventionists credit for the horrors of WW2 that simply don't happen if we refuse the clash of empires that was WW1.

Ready to 'defend freedom' in Africa next?
 
Then it will be easy for you to point out what I said that was dishonest.

Aside from enriching bankers and arms merchants, what did America 'buy' with all the corpses we supplied to WW1?



Just like when we didn't take part in the campaigns against Napoleon, right?


Dude, you think Churchill was fighting for India's 'freedom'?
You have bought the interventionists' propaganda hook, line and sinker, and frankly seem incapable of considering any other path, much less giving the interventionists credit for the horrors of WW2 that simply don't happen if we refuse the clash of empires that was WW1.

Ready to 'defend freedom' in Africa next?
Aside from enriching bankers and arms merchants, what did America 'buy' with all the corpses we supplied to WW1?”

Well, it HAS given us 100+ years of peace, right? I mean…we were assured it was the ‘war to end all wars’.

o_O
 
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This man is misogynistic and wants to restrict womens reproductive rights yet 47% of women voted for him
He thinks PR is a garbage island and attacks immigration and approximately 40% of Latino men voted for him
He is clearly a racist and bigot and some Black men and women voted for him

For the love of God. So Perplexing
 
There is nothing the Dems can do to be honest. Country is going towards fascism. It happens.
eric cartman fear GIF by South Park
 
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Anyone got a quick analysis of state by state number of votes in 2020 vs 2024? Just total votes. I’m too lazy to do it.
 
Call me stupid. I did

Is that why Black males didn't vote for her? I'm confused. She did terrible among young black men.
No, they think they'll have more money with Trump in office. They won't but they drank the Kool-Aid.

Breakdown of Trump voters in my opinion:
1. Staunch republicans that will always vote for the R on the ticket
2. Wealthy people and/or corporate management that know Trump will make them richer
3. People that think the economy is bad and Trump will make grocery prices go down
4. Voters against abortion
5. People that think he will stop immigration (Many of which fall into category 6 as well)
6. Racists and Misogynists
 
This man is misogynistic and wants to restrict womens reproductive rights yet 47% of women voted for him
He thinks PR is a garbage island and attacks immigration and approximately 40% of Latino men voted for him
He is clearly a racist and bigot and some Black men and women voted for him

For the love of God. So Perplexing
Women really did themselves a disservice. Years of progress rolled back.
 
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