The possible irony for ISU if Iowa wins ....

[ghostOfHomer777]

Let's suppose that Iowa wins this Saturday ... and don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that this game could go either way. On paper, Iowa State appears to be an awfully solid team.

If Iowa wins ... that will mark the 2nd year in a row where one of ISU's best teams in decades loses, yet again, to our Iowa Hawkeyes. If you look at ISU's roster ... a lot of their talented guys are JRs this season. Thus, even if they lose in '18 ... they'll be able to exact their revenge on the Hawks at Jack Trice in '19, right?

Oddly enough, as good as the Iowa vs ISU match-up looks on paper in '18 .... it arguably looks even better in '19! Both Iowa and ISU should be reaching their respective high-water marks in '19. As many Iowa posters probably have learned from my posts through the past year ... I've been prognosticating for a while now that Iowa's '19 season could potentially be an exceptional one for our Hawks (irrespective of the difficulty of the schedule).

Suppose that the Hawks not only win the '18 game against ISU ... but they win the '19 match-up too? Oh, the humanity ..... !

 

[Dick Rambone]

Iowa should win nearly every year against ISU , that program is , was and always will be 2nd fiddle in Iowa and the National stage in football .

 

[Win5002]

Let's suppose that Iowa wins this Saturday ... and don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that this game could go either way. On paper, Iowa State appears to be an awfully solid team.

If Iowa wins ... that will mark the 2nd year in a row where one of ISU's best teams in decades loses, yet again, to our Iowa Hawkeyes. If you look at ISU's roster ... a lot of their talented guys are JRs this season. Thus, even if they lose in '18 ... they'll be able to exact their revenge on the Hawks at Jack Trice in '19, right?

Oddly enough, as good as the Iowa vs ISU match-up looks on paper in '18 .... it arguably looks even better in '19! Both Iowa and ISU should be reaching their respective high-water marks in '19. As many Iowa posters probably have learned from my posts through the past year ... I've been prognosticating for a while now that Iowa's '19 season could potentially be an exceptional one for our Hawks (irrespective of the difficulty of the schedule).

Suppose that the Hawks not only win the '18 game against ISU ... but they win the '19 match-up too? Oh, the humanity ..... !

Your right about 2019, it is both program's possible team of the decade with who the underclassmen are. Iowa could lose Fant and Stanley(although Saturday certainly didn't enhance those predictions). Maybe an outside chance at Anthony Nelson, and possibly even Amani Hooker. All of them of course will not go but Iowa could lose 1-2 maybe 3 if its a great season.

ISU will probably lose David Montgomery. Possibly Hakeem Butler WR or DE Jaquan Bailey if one of them has an outstanding season.

What could slow both teams down is having to replace a QB. We know ISU will have to unless Noland comes in for Kempt this year due to injury. He played a couple of games last year and I came away impressed. He has a strong arm and still has a nice touch on the long ball. His first real action was 2 minutes at the end of the 1st half against OSU. Instead of running the clock out Campbell had him run a 2 minute offense and he took them down the field for a TD. I see veteran QB's struggle to run a 2 minute drill let alone someone with their first real playing time.

What little I saw of Mansell on Saturday was fun. I'm sure he can be a good QB but you would rather have a 3rd year starter back in Stanley next season.

 

[Roy-munson]

Let’s pump the brakes on this Iowa state team a little.. they have a good coach, a really solid running back, a game managing quarterback, a really inexperience offensive line. One proven wide receiver, a vastly overrated d-line (their fans doing), average linebackers, and one decent defensive back(well all big-12 which is a joke award)

 

[StopIt]

Let's suppose that Iowa wins this Saturday ... and don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that this game could go either way. On paper, Iowa State appears to be an awfully solid team.

If Iowa wins ... that will mark the 2nd year in a row where one of ISU's best teams in decades loses, yet again, to our Iowa Hawkeyes. If you look at ISU's roster ... a lot of their talented guys are JRs this season. Thus, even if they lose in '18 ... they'll be able to exact their revenge on the Hawks at Jack Trice in '19, right?

Oddly enough, as good as the Iowa vs ISU match-up looks on paper in '18 .... it arguably looks even better in '19! Both Iowa and ISU should be reaching their respective high-water marks in '19. As many Iowa posters probably have learned from my posts through the past year ... I've been prognosticating for a while now that Iowa's '19 season could potentially be an exceptional one for our Hawks (irrespective of the difficulty of the schedule).

Suppose that the Hawks not only win the '18 game against ISU ... but they win the '19 match-up too? Oh, the humanity ..... !

If any of this were true, Iowa has no business being on the same field as Wisconsin in a few weeks!

 

[BubsFinn]

How is any of that ironic?

 

[Win5002]

Let’s pump the brakes on this Iowa state team a little.. they have a good coach, a really solid running back, a game managing quarterback, a really inexperience offensive line. One proven wide receiver, a vastly overrated d-line (their fans doing), average linebackers, and one decent defensive back(well all big-12 which is a joke award)

Average linebackers? overrated defensive line? You really haven't watched them have you.

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/19/big-12-football-position-rankings-defensive-line/

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/21/big-12-football-position-rankings-linebackers/

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/26/big-12-football-position-rankings-defensive-backs/

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-12-football-2018-all-conference-team

Offensive line is the question. Good-Jones is a good player but going from center to Tackle is a position change. Bryce Meeker started all year at RT. Sean Foster got a few starts at Tackle subbing for Campos when injured. Knipfel started at guard last year. They will have new young players at C & one of the guard spots. So there is experience but it wasn't a good line last year, we will see if they can improve this year. If they do the other offensive spots are covered.

 

[TheHawkeyeDudeAbides]

Let's suppose that Iowa wins this Saturday ... and don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that this game could go either way. On paper, Iowa State appears to be an awfully solid team.

If Iowa wins ... that will mark the 2nd year in a row where one of ISU's best teams in decades loses, yet again, to our Iowa Hawkeyes. If you look at ISU's roster ... a lot of their talented guys are JRs this season. Thus, even if they lose in '18 ... they'll be able to exact their revenge on the Hawks at Jack Trice in '19, right?

Oddly enough, as good as the Iowa vs ISU match-up looks on paper in '18 .... it arguably looks even better in '19! Both Iowa and ISU should be reaching their respective high-water marks in '19. As many Iowa posters probably have learned from my posts through the past year ... I've been prognosticating for a while now that Iowa's '19 season could potentially be an exceptional one for our Hawks (irrespective of the difficulty of the schedule).

Suppose that the Hawks not only win the '18 game against ISU ... but they win the '19 match-up too? Oh, the humanity ..... !

Personally, I question how good ISUcc's OL will really be. A lot of inexperienced new faces up front and especially between the tackles. Bryce Meeker is really a guard playing RT and LT Good Jones is the only real OL talent in my book. I do see ISUcc winning the between the tackles battle against Iowa's DL. ISUcc's OL will be doing a lot of holding in Saturday's game. I expect more throws to the sidelines to generate space and open field for ISU. Our corners are going to have to platoon as heat and activity will demand their best efforts. Iowa's front seven have to sack Kempt multiple times and stop Montgomery from breaking off 15+ yard bursts. The more frustration heaped on Kempt's head, the more pressure to throw long balls and that's where his average arm strength make him vunerable to interceptions.

Glad to have AJ and TW back as I am not sold on our interior OL play. Seems weaker. Not a big fan of Reynolds' play. Wish Kallenberger was more ready to play OT as I would prefer to see Wirfs at a Guard and strength the interior running game. Time may change thing. I know Reynold and Banwart are finally starters but unsure of their metal. Iowa could do better. BF's and TP's call.

If Iowa does not win the trench war this week, they will not win.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

The last time Iowa State beat Iowa (2014) they finished the season with 2 wins.

I'm with Roy Munson. We need to pump the brakes. Iowa State's best season in recent memory was last year, in which they finished 8-5. Prior to that, they had won something like 10 games in three seasons. Yes, they seem to be heading in the right direction, but to champion them already as a Top 25 caliber program is very premature.

Bottomline is this game is about Iowa. If Iowa does what they're supposed to do and takes care of business, this talk is moot. Iowa is still the superior program. They need to show that Saturday.

 

[ffjoey44]

Iowa rolls. End of story

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Both Iowa and ISU should be reaching their respective high-water marks in '19.

I doubt it. ISU will have a first year starter at QB and Montgomery will almost assuredly be gone to the NFL.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Average linebackers? overrated defensive line? You really haven't watched them have you.

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/19/big-12-football-position-rankings-defensive-line/

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/21/big-12-football-position-rankings-linebackers/

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/26/big-12-football-position-rankings-defensive-backs/

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-12-football-2018-all-conference-team

Offensive line is the question. Good-Jones is a good player but going from center to Tackle is a position change. Bryce Meeker started all year at RT. Sean Foster got a few starts at Tackle subbing for Campos when injured. Knipfel started at guard last year. They will have new young players at C & one of the guard spots. So there is experience but it wasn't a good line last year, we will see if they can improve this year. If they do the other offensive spots are covered.

Lol. Yes, the conference known for vaunted defenses. The conference in which Nebraska last season would probably have average defensive rankings.

Almost as hilarious as the poster a while back claiming Iowa State's TE was just as good as Fant because he was 2nd team all conference in such a TE laden conference.

LMAO. I can't make this shit up.

 

[TheHawkeyeDudeAbides]

Average linebackers? overrated defensive line? You really haven't watched them have you.

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/19/big-12-football-position-rankings-defensive-line/

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/21/big-12-football-position-rankings-linebackers/

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2018/08/26/big-12-football-position-rankings-defensive-backs/

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-12-football-2018-all-conference-team

Offensive line is the question. Good-Jones is a good player but going from center to Tackle is a position change. Bryce Meeker started all year at RT. Sean Foster got a few starts at Tackle subbing for Campos when injured. Knipfel started at guard last year. They will have new young players at C & one of the guard spots. So there is experience but it wasn't a good line last year, we will see if they can improve this year. If they do the other offensive spots are covered.

WE are both on the same page about the ISU OL. Experience counts. ISUcc is in deficit spending mode.

 

[Win5002]

Personally, I question how good ISUcc's OL will really be. A lot of inexperienced new faces up front and especially between the tackles. Bryce Meeker is really a guard playing RT and LT Good Jones is the only real OL talent in my book. I do see ISUcc winning the between the tackles battle against Iowa's DL. ISUcc's OL will be doing a lot of holding in Saturday's game. I expect more throws to the sidelines to generate space and open field for ISU. Our corners are going to have to platoon as heat and activity will demand their best efforts. Iowa's front seven have to sack Kempt multiple times and stop Montgomery from breaking off 15+ yard bursts. The more frustration heaped on Kempt's head, the more pressure to throw long balls and that's where his average arm strength make him vunerable to interceptions.

Glad to have AJ and TW back as I am not sold on our interior OL play. Seems weaker. Not a big fan of Reynolds' play. Wish Kallenberger was more ready to play OT as I would prefer to see Wirfs at a Guard and strength the interior running game. Time may change thing. I know Reynold and Banwart are finally starters but unsure of their metal. Iowa could do better. BF's and TP's call.

If Iowa does not win the trench war this week, they will not win.

I think Iowa's DL needs to dominate or win handily the war against the ISU OL because Iowa's new linebackers are going to have a real hard time in pass protection against the ISU WR's. The Iowa linebackers are also going to have a hard time not giving up broken tacklers to David Montgomery.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the ISU defensive line vs the Iowa offensive line. I thought the suspension of Jackson & Wirfs gave ISU an advantage this week because even though those two are very good talents they would miss the week of building cohesion with the other lineman for the ISU game and Iowa offensive lines tend to develop slowly. Of course now ISU didn't even get a game in and I think that advantage flips to Iowa.

 

[bagdropper]

I just read up some on ISU's squad this year. Maybe an hour's worth of reading. Some homer, some neutral.

After reading this, I am thoroughly convinced Iowa should simply forfeit. Every player graduated, the replacement is going to be better. Every returning guy is better and all conference players abound.

We are DOOMED.

 

[Win5002]

Lol. Yes, the conference known for vaunted defenses. The conference in which Nebraska last season would probably have average defensive rankings.

Almost as hilarious as the poster a while back claiming Iowa State's TE was just as good as Fant because he was 2nd team all conference in such a TE laden conference.

LMAO. I can't make this shit up.

If someone said Chase Allen was anywhere near to Fant that would be insane. TE essentially isn't used in the B12. Some close to the program think Terry's son Chase can contribute but who knows but definitely not like a Fant at this point. But as big as the gap is between Iowa's TE's and ISU's, that same gap exists between ISU's WR's and Iowa's WR's and part of the TE gap may be the usage of the TE spot because they use WR's instead. Keep in mind also ISU has 2 big WR's in Butler 6'6" and Eaton 6'4" that give a similar big target a TE might give in an offense that utilizes a TE more.

Ironically, the ISU game was a big one for Marsette-Smith with 4 catches and 2 Td's but he really didn't continue that during the season as he only caught 18 balls total and no more TD's.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

I think Iowa's DL needs to dominate or win handily the war against the ISU OL because Iowa's new linebackers are going to have a real hard time in pass protection against the ISU WR's. The Iowa linebackers are also going to have a hard time not giving up broken tacklers to David Montgomery.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the ISU defensive line vs the Iowa offensive line. I thought the suspension of Jackson & Wirfs gave ISU an advantage this week because even though those two are very good talents they would miss the week of building cohesion with the other lineman for the ISU game and Iowa offensive lines tend to develop slowly. Of course now ISU didn't even get a game in and I think that advantage flips to Iowa.

Smh, dude.

Reread the shit you just wrote. Not only are you talking about Iowa LBs in pass protection and other things that make no sense, you contradict yourself with nonsense about Wirfs and Jackson being at a disadvantage despite the fact they practice every day against one of the top DLs in the B1G Ten.

Iowa State hasn't even played a game yet. Last year they gave up 44 points at home to an Iowa offense that was at best mediocre. Some of you guys act like because a few of your players made preseason conference honors in a conference that is a shit show for defense that somehow your defense is just going to show up on Saturday and go Wisconsin on Iowa.

The shit is comical and makes no sense. You have to be living in an alternate reality to believe half of the shit you have been writing on here.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

How is any of that ironic?

The irony is that ISU is likely poised to be an excellent team ... and yet I still think that they'd likely lose to Iowa. Wouldn't that just suck to have your team be at their absolute best in ages ... and still not be good enough? The irony is in the expectations ... but still having the likely outcome be the opposite.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

I doubt it. ISU will have a first year starter at QB and Montgomery will almost assuredly be gone to the NFL.

I'm not certain that Montgomery goes to the pros. A lot would depend on how the draft is stacking up ... and where he'd land.

As for QB ... Kempt isn't exactly swimming with career starts. Zeb Noland came in last year for them and was pretty productive. Zeb will be pretty experienced and be more than ready to step into the spotlight in '19.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Let’s pump the brakes on this Iowa state team a little.. they have a good coach, a really solid running back, a game managing quarterback, a really inexperience offensive line. One proven wide receiver, a vastly overrated d-line (their fans doing), average linebackers, and one decent defensive back(well all big-12 which is a joke award)

ISU's OL returns 4 guys with starting experience. However, they're clearly worried about Kempt's blind-side ... so they'd rather have their top blocker manning the LT spot rather than Foster. I agree that Good-Jones will likely require some transition at the LT spot ... but ultimately he'll probably end up a really good one.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

If someone said Chase Allen was anywhere near to Fant that would be insane. TE essentially isn't used in the B12. Some close to the program think Terry's son Chase can contribute but who knows but definitely not like a Fant at this point. But as big as the gap is between Iowa's TE's and ISU's, that same gap exists between ISU's WR's and Iowa's WR's and part of the TE gap may be the usage of the TE spot because they use WR's instead. Keep in mind also ISU has 2 big WR's in Butler 6'6" and Eaton 6'4" that give a similar big target a TE might give in an offense that utilizes a TE more.

Ironically, the ISU game was a big one for Marsette-Smith with 4 catches and 2 Td's but he really didn't continue that during the season as he only caught 18 balls total and no more TD's.

Iowa State and Iowa are a complete contrast in styles. Comparing WRs means nothing. Iowa will be successful if they control the clock and are successful on play action.

About the only thing you are correct on as far as Saturday's game is the question mark of Iowa's LBs. In general, tackling hasn't been as much of an issue as misreads and missed assignments. That seemed to get corrected in the 2nd half of the NIU game. Montgomery poses a formidable challenge as does covering WRs in space with LBs. Iowa will need to pressure the QB and force turnovers

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

I'm not certain that Montgomery goes to the pros. A lot would depend on how the draft is stacking up ... and where he'd land.

As for QB ... Kempt isn't exactly swimming with career starts. Zeb Noland came in last year for them and was pretty productive. Zeb will be pretty experienced and be more than ready to step into the spotlight in '19.

I still don't see 2019 being their "high-water mark", for whatever good that would do them.

 

[CLONE1]

Kinda like 2002, huh?

 

[Win5002]

Smh, dude.

Reread the shit you just wrote. Not only are you talking about Iowa LBs in pass protection and other things that make no sense, you contradict yourself with nonsense about Wirfs and Jackson being at a disadvantage despite the fact they practice every day against one of the top DLs in the B1G Ten.

Iowa State hasn't even played a game yet. Last year they gave up 44 points at home to an Iowa offense that was at best mediocre. Some of you guys act like because a few of your players made preseason conference honors in a conference that is a shit show for defense that somehow your defense is just going to show up on Saturday and go Wisconsin on Iowa.

The shit is comical and makes no sense. You have to be living in an alternate reality to believe half of the shit you have been writing on here.

Yeah, your right Iowa never expects its linebackers to stay on the field in passing situations. I have never heard an Iowa fan ever complain about a linebacker being stuck on a WR. And even if Iowa has played a little more nickel in passing situations the last couple of years ISU would never pass on 1st & 2nd down, they will be very predictable and run 1st & 2nd and try and pick up the first down by passing on 3rd down giving Iowa time to change defensive sets. How Iowa tackled against NIU is going to be a whole different story than David Montgomery. Broken tackles by RB is a stat that's only been kept for 5 years but Montgomery had the highest amount recorded last year, it may be a little different versus a David Montgomery.

Your misunderstanding what I was saying about Whirf and Jackson. I'm not questioning their individual talents its just Iowa starts slow with their offensive lines and the zone blocking scheme seems to take a while each season to progress. I assume Iowa is expecting big years from them this year because they ran a lot to the outside even with the backups. But I do think the cohesion of the Iowa offensive line may suffer some although ISU will probably suffer more since they didn't even get a 1st game in and the improvement from game 1 to 2 is considered your biggest progress in the season.

 

[Win5002]

I'm not certain that Montgomery goes to the pros. A lot would depend on how the draft is stacking up ... and where he'd land.

As for QB ... Kempt isn't exactly swimming with career starts. Zeb Noland came in last year for them and was pretty productive. Zeb will be pretty experienced and be more than ready to step into the spotlight in '19.

RB's have a short shelf life. Pro football news had him 1st team all American last year with the highest RB grade and he doesn't fumble and breaks a lot of tackles. I would love for him to be back but I would be shocked if he is. I agree about Kempt and also Noland's potential but it didn't seem like an open competition in the spring so the ISU staff must be pretty confident with Kempt. Kempt has never experience being the guy going into the season so it will be interesting to see what the confidence of that does for him as a player.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Yeah, your right Iowa never expects its linebackers to stay on the field in passing situations. I have never heard an Iowa fan ever complain about a linebacker being stuck on a WR. And even if Iowa has played a little more nickel in passing situations the last couple of years ISU would never pass on 1st & 2nd down, they will be very predictable and run 1st & 2nd and try and pick up the first down by passing on 3rd down giving Iowa time to change defensive sets. How Iowa tackled against NIU is going to be a whole different story than David Montgomery. Broken tackles by RB is a stat that's only been kept for 5 years but Montgomery had the highest amount recorded last year, it may be a little different versus a David Montgomery.

Your misunderstanding what I was saying about Whirf and Jackson. I'm not questioning their individual talents its just Iowa starts slow with their offensive lines and the zone blocking scheme seems to take a while each season to progress. I assume Iowa is expecting big years from them this year because they ran a lot to the outside even with the backups. But I do think the cohesion of the Iowa offensive line may suffer some although ISU will probably suffer more since they didn't even get a 1st game in and the improvement from game 1 to 2 is considered your biggest progress in the season.

Lol. Pass coverage, not protection. I was being a smart ass. I clearly said the linebackers have an issue with Montgomery and covering receivers in space.

 

[Win5002]

Lol. Pass coverage, not protection. I was being a smart ass. I clearly said the linebackers have an issue with Montgomery and covering receivers in space.

I probably read it too quick. I was supposed to be doing some work today lol.

 

[Lone Clone]

Interesting comments. I especially like the fact that Montgomery, who posters here say is average at best, is assumed sure to go a year early to the NFL.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Interesting comments. I especially like the fact that Montgomery, who posters here say is average at best, is assumed sure to go a year early to the NFL.

Come now ... most knowledgeable fans on this board freely mention how Montgomery is an excellent back. However, I wouldn't assume he leaves early unless he gets a really high draft grade.

 

[WhoaNellieCy]

Smh, dude.

Reread the shit you just wrote. Not only are you talking about Iowa LBs in pass protection and other things that make no sense, you contradict yourself with nonsense about Wirfs and Jackson being at a disadvantage despite the fact they practice every day against one of the top DLs in the B1G Ten.

Iowa State hasn't even played a game yet. Last year they gave up 44 points at home to an Iowa offense that was at best mediocre. Some of you guys act like because a few of your players made preseason conference honors in a conference that is a shit show for defense that somehow your defense is just going to show up on Saturday and go Wisconsin on Iowa.

The shit is comical and makes no sense. You have to be living in an alternate reality to believe half of the shit you have been writing on here.

Ya c'mon now, ISU gave up 44 points in OT and Ohio State gave up 55 points in regulation. How do you explain that?

Last year ISU/Iowa game was game #2 in year #2 of Campbell and most observers would say ISU defense vastly improved throughout the year (see 2017 results) in what everyone here says is a All Offense/No Defense league.

Who knows what will happen saturday, 2 fairly even teams, but give Iowa a big advantage with 55 more minutes of actual game time under their belts

 

[luvmyhawks]

Interesting comments. I especially like the fact that Montgomery, who posters here say is average at best, is assumed sure to go a year early to the NFL.

Here we go with this nonsense.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Ya c'mon now, ISU gave up 44 points in OT and Ohio State gave up 55 points in regulation. How do you explain that?

Last year ISU/Iowa game was game #2 in year #2 of Campbell and most observers would say ISU defense vastly improved throughout the year (see 2017 results) in what everyone here says is a All Offense/No Defense league.

Who knows what will happen saturday, 2 fairly even teams, but give Iowa a big advantage with 55 more minutes of actual game time under their belts

The Ohio State game was an anomaly.

You are correct about the disadvantage Iowa State is at not playing a full game.

Yes, ISU's defense improved from awful to average. My point is they are not the 85 Bears.

 

[FreddyUI]

ISU defense had success at forcing pass heavy B12 offenses to slowly grind down the field by taking away the long throws.

Iowa is not known as a pass heavy team and will gladly play run the ball and settle for short passes as it attempts to wear down the defense throughout the game.

Iowa’s defense will have to key on Montgomery, however I do not anticipate the blown coverage by the Iowa safeties that we saw last year that nearly cost Iowa the game.

 

[Kurt Warner]

Kinda like 2002, huh?

You had to bring that up didn't you

 

[David1979]

ISU's defense gave up yards against good offenses but limited them in scoring for the most part. What also helped Iowa State last year was they they rarely turned the ball over and they had very few penalties.
Their rushing D was good but they didn't play many good rushing offenses.

 

[Wadzinator]

Don't forget about crowd noise sat that will be an issue for isu.Holy shit I can't wait

 

[WhoaNellieCy]

The Ohio State game was an anomaly.

You are correct about the disadvantage Iowa State is at not playing a full game.

Yes, ISU's defense improved from awful to average. My point is they are not the 85 Bears.

Ya, they are not an alabama, clemson, etc. Looks like iowa and isu defenses were about the same in 2017 as far as total yards and total scoring stats.

 

[Win5002]

Come now ... most knowledgeable fans on this board freely mention how Montgomery is an excellent back. However, I wouldn't assume he leaves early unless he gets a really high draft grade.

Keep in mind RB's have a lower threshold for leaving early. Other positions might want a 1st or 2nd round slot, while RB's might be looking at 3 possibly 4th round due to shorter careers. Hey, but I'm all for Montgomery coming back, tell him he is a free agent at best!

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Ya, they are not an alabama, clemson, etc. Looks like iowa and isu defenses were about the same in 2017 as far as total yards and total scoring stats.

That's coz Iowa's offense was trash and put the defense on the field too often .

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Keep in mind RB's have a lower threshold for leaving early. Other positions might want a 1st or 2nd round slot, while RB's might be looking at 3 possibly 4th round due to shorter careers. Hey, but I'm all for Montgomery coming back, tell him he is a free agent at best!

If I were an ISU fan, I'd want him to stay too. As a Hawkeye fan ... I want him GONE!