Pretty much agree. Although the blue bloods will lead the money race followed distantly by the rest.
Would Not Bug Me if OSU, PSU, Mich & Oregon All Left B1G for a Super Conference
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They are a blue blood.
Saying they are not is like saying Mississippi is a Democratic strong hold because they voted that way in like 30 presidential elections.
Well, Mississippi is now a red state, and Oregon is now blue blood.
Which hasn’t changed anything in terms of pecking order.
Iowa has never competed with those schools for players. They are, always have, and probably always will compete with the middle of the pack for players, and sometimes can rise up and have a great season.
You’re expecting Iowa athletics to forfeit $100 million dollars a year in the future so they don’t have to lose to Ohio State, a thing they have been doing for a lot less money for 100 years?
You essentially want to forfeit the entire athletic department at Iowa that is mostly funded by football revenue, including things like athletic scholarships for hundreds of female athletes at the university of Iowa; because you’re mad Ohio State can pay their football players more than Iowa can? Something that has probably been happening for over 100 years?
You strike as a pretty intellectual, but I’d suggest you haven’t thought this through.
We could also implement salary caps on coaches and players. Why is it required that public universities need to pay a coach millions a year. Who says athletics should have total control over a budget that is only.possible because of the platform that is the huge state public universities.
Sweep the surplus cash into the rest of the university. Establish endowments so the other athletic teams have their budgets secured without an ongoing drag on the overall budget.
Enough with the greed and the belief that these programs generate these kinds of revenues without the platform and brand of huge public universities.
Sweep the surplus cash into the rest of the university. Establish endowments so the other athletic teams have their budgets secured without an ongoing drag on the overall budget.
Enough with the greed and the belief that these programs generate these kinds of revenues without the platform and brand of huge public universities.
Blue bloods win championships. Oregon has a bunch of money. They went to one playoff, a decade ago, and since that last playoff, they’ve only been in major bowls 3x
They have never won a national championship and have a total of 6 top 5 finishes over the last quarter century, which account for all the top 5 finishes in program history. They have won 8 PAC titles in the last quarter century, very respectable, but not dominant, and in a really weak league for much of that time.
Calling Oregon a blue blood is like calling Bo Ryan Wisconsin BBall a blue blood.
It has always been this way. Just before, you had to invest the money into the program so the players could get the soft benefits. Now, they get that, but they can get paid too.
The programs who have won more than anyone over time have all spent more than their peers or they sit in prime recruiting locales.
Calling Nebraska a blueblood is like calling Minnesota a blueblood.
Nebraska lost their status, but they’re more of a blue blood than Oregon. I’m not sure if people realize how damning it is that Oregon has 11 consensus All Americans. That’s pathetic. Iowa has 3x that, with 16 being in the Ferentz era, the time when damn near all Oregons success has been achieved. They have the same number of NFL players as Iowa.
They're a strong program, tier 1b, not anywhere near blue blood status.
But then super conference leftovers could come to Iowa.
I am not saying I want Iowa to leave the B1G. What I am saying is if OSU, MI, etc all leave to join a Super Conference, that won't bug me.
I guess I don’t like the idea of the premier teams leaving the Big Ten and leaving Iowa in a conference that is the equivalent of the current Big 12. Don’t like that at all.
We are the super conference. It's the beginning of an NFC/AFC scenario with about 42-64 teams in total. There is nowhere else to go, the B1G is the pinnacle. Nobody is going to leave the B1G. At this point, it would only hurt any of those four programs to do so and they would lose hundreds of millions per year.
They actually tried to do that in soccer a few years ago with Real Madrid, Chelsea, Barca, Liverpool etc etc. but the fan backlash was so severe that it was essentially rescinded overnight and the programs all had hell to pay with FIFA right after. Nobody wanted that and nobody would want a premiere division for football as opposed to a NFL format that we will be receiving soon.
If there ever is a “Super conference” It will be TV money that will decide who is in, It won’t be individual schools making the choice, Iowa won’t decide if they do or don’t want to be in the super conference, TV executives will make that decision.
There are “blue bloods” and Oregon is the “new blood.”
They have never had and will never have the level of advantages they currently have now and they are going all it to win a championship because of it.
Also, they have way more than 20 million in NIL. Next year they will have around 35 million.
They have never had and will never have the level of advantages they currently have now and they are going all it to win a championship because of it.
Also, they have way more than 20 million in NIL. Next year they will have around 35 million.
Oregon crushed Iowa the last two times we played.
Nil will still be deciding factor. Nobody is going to turn down an extra million.
And forfeits any claim to a playoff bid. Maybe we could join forces with the MAC? Iowa could probably finish middle of the pack in that conference.
Would Not Bug Me if OSU, PSU, Mich & Oregon All Left B1G for a Super Conference
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Oregon is a Blueblood ? OK ! Do you know what the term Blueblood means-represents?
Bluebloods have decades of success - Oregon doesn't even come close. Search the web and most Blueblood lists have 8 although I think Nebraska should be replaced by either LSU or Penn State. Oregon is in the 20s on several lists
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Who are college football's blue-blood programs?
It's a fun-but-complicated question: Who are college football's blue-blood programs? Our writers ranked all 128 and pinpointed the eight schools the sport wouldn't be the same without.
I used to feel that way , but if college athletics are going professional let the NFL and NBA fund them. Currently they get all the benefits with no investment. Then colleges can focus on academics.
They have bought themselves blue blood status.
You do understand that "blueblood status" goes back over decades and decades, right ? They've just come on the scene in the last 10 to maybe 15 years. Now, if you want to call them a recent football power, I'll buy that
You mean like Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, Florida State, .... They aren't gettin' in this year. lol
Schools can opt out but you won't be able to get an invite w/o a brand name that will draw eyes to TVs. This is all about the media growing their bottom lines.
lol. Read through the thread, bossman. You completely missed the sarcasm, lost the plot, then restarted the thread that already happened.Bluebloods have decades of success - Oregon doesn't even come close. Search the web and most Blueblood lists have 8 although I think Nebraska should be replaced by either LSU or Penn State. Oregon is in the 20s on several lists
Who are college football's blue-blood programs?
It's a fun-but-complicated question: Who are college football's blue-blood programs? Our writers ranked all 128 and pinpointed the eight schools the sport wouldn't be the same without.
Jamie Pollard frantically searching B12, NCAA, ESPN/Fox, by-laws and his rolodex of big donors to see if it's not too late for ISU. 🤔
Bama's a bit shocking. Oklahoma went to the SEC for the money. They're going to struggle big time to stay relevant. They're not in the little 12 anymore. Honestly USC hasn't been relevant since that cheatin SOB Carroll left 15 years ago, and they've had 5 or 6 coaches since then. Basically the same with FSU. Since Fischer took them to the title a decade ago. They're a dumpster fire now....
It's all about NIL and raising money. Iowa can be a top 20 team in NIL. Nebraska has a top 20 NIL with their small population. It can be done. Until it is controlled it will be like the Yankee baseball of years ago. Have the best team money can buy.
Does Neb get some of that Warren Buffett money? 145-150 BILLION dollars net worth, the 8th richest man on the planet. Omaha guy, and Neb grad....
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Or....perhaps the ruling body of college athletics, the NCAA, could actually do their job and try to add some common sense and equity into this screwed up, "every man for themselves" scheme we are currently experiencing. It was plenty difficult before, when the blue bloods simply relied on cheating. Now that it's been normalized to hand hundreds of thousand dollars to HS recruits, it has bastardized college athletics. We need a major reset.
