The Republican Plan to Steal the 2024 Presidential Election

[What Would Jesus Do?]

It's pretty straight forward.

1. Get some local officials to refuse to certify the election results.
2. Those states then can't send electors to vote in the Electoral College.
3. If Biden doesn't get 270 EC votes, the House picks the President.
4. In the House, each state gets just 1 vote.
5. Republicans control a majority of state delegations in the House.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

As corrupt as the republican party has become, I find it highly likely. Especially since any of them with backbones, are no longer relevant within the party.

 

[BioHawk]

They've been spending the last 4 years putting the pieces in place, including buying up all media to be able to more effectively disrupt communication for any groups wanting to do anything about it.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

They've been spending the last 4 years putting the pieces in place, including buying up all media to be able to more effectively disrupt communication for any groups wanting to do anything about it.

Exactly right. Several states, including battleground states, have passed specific legislation to let them do this. As I understand it, some even have laws in place to let them replace the duly elected slate of Electors with a hand-picked slate.

 

[BioHawk]

Exactly right. Several states, including battleground states, have passed specific legislation to let them do this. As I understand it, some even have laws in place to let them replace the duly elected slate of Electors with a hand-picked slate.

And they have a Supreme Court that will let them do it. I really hope the Biden administration has a plan for this. I don't expect them to come out and talk about it, but they need to be prepared for it.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Which raises the question: What happens if/when the GOP pulls off this theft?

Do Dems and lefties storm Congress to prevent this atrocity?

Or did we object so much to any interruption of the peaceful transfer of power that we are now obligated to let the Republicans get away with it?

I fear the latter.

I also worry that if the Dems/left actually object, the better-armed fanatics on the right will turn out in force to PROTECT THE STEAL™.

 

[BioHawk]

Which raises the question: What happens if/when the GOP pulls off this theft?

Do Dems and lefties storm Congress to prevent this atrocity?

Or did we object so much to any interruption of the peaceful transfer of power that we are now obligated to let the Republicans get away with it?

I fear the latter.

I also worry that if the Dems/left actually object, the better-armed fanatics on the right will turn out in force to PROTECT THE STEAL™.

Well Democrats haven't done shit to try and prevent this up to this point, so why start now? They are still trying to govern like there isn't an opposition party that wants to topple the entire form of government they are operating under.

 

[Huey Grey]

SCOTUS: States have no right to take insurrectionists off their ballots!

Also SCOTUS: But states can ignore elections results and give the insurrectionist the automatic win!

 

[Scruddy]

Gonna be amazing to watch the left refuse to certify a trump win in January.

 

[Huey Grey]

Well Democrats haven't done shit to try and prevent this up to this point, so why start now? They are still trying to govern like there isn't an opposition party that wants to topple the entire form of government they are operating under.

Even if the Dems signed a law addressing this, SCOTUS would just shoot it down.

 

[Rifler]

Sounds like you guys are saying the election is rigged...

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

As bat shit crazy and anti-America most of the idiots on this board are like the OP, this board should be deleted.

 

[TC Nole OX]

The US is a failed state.

 

[Huey Grey]

Sounds like you guys are saying the election is rigged...

Rs have been trying to rig it for years.

 

[TennNole17]

You guys spend your time worrying about weird shit.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

The US is a failed state.

Whose model do you like?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Gonna be amazing to watch the left refuse to certify a trump win in January.

Harris: Upon reconsideration, it appears the VP actually DOES have the authority to refuse to certify the election results filed by the House.

That won't happen, of course. But it's an interesting thought experiment to ask what would happen next if it did.

As far as I know, there's no provision for holding another election. So what would we do?

Obviously the House would impeach Harris, and maybe Biden. But the Senate won't convict.

Presumably Biden/Harris remain in office until this is resolved.

Does Trump set up a competing White House and attempt to rule as President?

Do President Biden and President Trump try to use the police power of the State to round up the "bad guys"? Which President do the military and the various police forces obey?

 

[BioHawk]

Even if the Dems signed a law addressing this, SCOTUS would just shoot it down.

Agreed, but they need to get shot down then. It is better to show you are fighting and lose than to look uninterested.

 

[Scruddy]

Harris: Upon reconsideration, it appears the VP actually DOES have the authority to refuse to certify the election results filed by the House.

That won't happen, of course. But it's an interesting thought experiment to ask what would happen next if it did.

As far as I know, there's no provision for holding another election. So what would we do?

Obviously the House would impeach Harris, and maybe Biden. But the Senate won't convict.

Presumably Biden/Harris remain in office until this is resolved.

Does Trump set up a competing White House and attempt to rule as President?

Do President Biden and President Trump try to use the police power of the State to round up the "bad guys"? Which President do the military and the various police forces obey?

The vp used to have that power. Congress actively changed that law after the last "election" though suggesting trump was actually correct. In the event that not enough electoral votes are given to either candidate then each state gets 1 vote for president.

 

[bhawk24bob]

The Dems won't do anything about it and then use it to campaign on like student loans, abortion, the Supreme Court, etc.

 

[HROT]

And they have a Supreme Court that will let them do it. I really hope the Biden administration has a plan for this. I don't expect them to come out and talk about it, but they need to be prepared for it.

Biden Is Building a 'Superstructure' to Stop Trump From Stealing the Election

Trump and his MAGA allies have been working for years to pre-rig the 2024 election. Team Biden is building a “superstructure” to fight them.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Whose model do you like?

Good question.

Replace this SCOTUS, reverse Citizens United and other bad anti-democracy decisions, and hold real elections - and we MIGHT be able to save our system.

No guarantees.

Next best option might be a partition of the US into several different nations. But can we do that peacefully - and without causing a world-wide depression?

 

[TennNole17]

Harris: Upon reconsideration, it appears the VP actually DOES have the authority to refuse to certify the election results filed by the House.

That won't happen, of course. But it's an interesting thought experiment to ask what would happen next if it did.

As far as I know, there's no provision for holding another election. So what would we do?

Obviously the House would impeach Harris, and maybe Biden. But the Senate won't convict.

Presumably Biden/Harris remain in office until this is resolved.

Does Trump set up a competing White House and attempt to rule as President?

Do President Biden and President Trump try to use the police power of the State to round up the "bad guys"? Which President do the military and the various police forces obey?

I think Biden would be adult enough to step down. to prevent craziness- rightly or wrongly. JMO.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

The Dems won't do anything about it and then use it to campaign on like student loans, abortion, the Supreme Court, etc.

Campaign?

If the Rs pull off this steal, what make you think we'll have real elections ever again?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I think Biden would be adult enough to step down. to prevent craziness- rightly or wrongly. JMO.

That's what Gore did in 2000. And look how that turned out.

But you're probably right.

If only one side has honor, how long can honor survive?

 

[Scruddy]

Campaign?

If the Rs pull off this steal, what make you think we'll have real elections ever again?

Amazing how similar you sound to the maga camp with this statement

 

[Sharky1203]

Here we go again. Every election. Then claim people who believed 2020 was stolen as election deniers.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Amazing how similar you sound to the maga camp with this statement

Just because they're wrong, doesn't mean THEY aren't a serious threat.

In case you haven't noticed, Rs routinely accuse others of what they themselves are doing or plan to do.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

It's pretty straight forward.

1. Get some local officials to refuse to certify the election results.
2. Those states then can't send electors to vote in the Electoral College.
3. If Biden doesn't get 270 EC votes, the House picks the President.
4. In the House, each state gets just 1 vote.
5. Republicans control a majority of state delegations in the House.

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Ahh, I see the lefties are already getting their, "the election was stolen" ducks in a row just in case all else fails and Trump actually wins.
Be careful OP, this is insurrection talk now you know.

 

[EasyHawk]

There is little doubt that the R's will attempt to steal it. We have to hope it doesn't work. Would be great if Biden could win by a lot.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Ahh, I see the lefties are already getting their, "the election was stolen" ducks in a row just in case all else fails and Trump actually wins.
Be careful OP, this is insurrection talk now you know.

If Trump ACTUALLY wins, I'll be upset but will accept it.

There's your difference.

Trump tried to steal it in 2020. We all saw it.

Best bet, based on the evidence, is that he'll try to steal it again in 2024. In the intervening years, Rs have laid a much better foundation for successfully stealing the election.

Those of us who care about democracy are worried about this. Those who don't, aren't.

 

[NewVicHawkeye]

Tried it before and we have every reason to believe that they’ll try again.

Those that say ‘he wouldn’t do that’ or ‘that’s a line he’d never cross’ have been wrong every time. There’s no avenue he wouldn’t pursue to be President.

 

[Scruddy]

Just because they're wrong, doesn't mean THEY aren't a serious threat.

In case you haven't noticed, Rs routinely accuse others of what they themselves are doing or plan to do.

I see the left do the exact same thing every single day. You seem to be doing it right now.

 

[Sharky1203]

Just because they're wrong, doesn't mean THEY aren't a serious threat.

In case you haven't noticed, Rs routinely accuse others of what they themselves are doing or plan to do.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Good question.

Replace this SCOTUS, reverse Citizens United and other bad anti-democracy decisions, and hold real elections - and we MIGHT be able to save our system.

No guarantees.

Next best option might be a partition of the US into several different nations. But can we do that peacefully - and without causing a world-wide depression?

So there isn't a single example in the world you can point to?


If we are a failed antion as you say it should be easy to point out one or 2.

 

[Scruddy]

Good question.

Replace this SCOTUS, reverse Citizens United and other bad anti-democracy decisions, and hold real elections - and we MIGHT be able to save our system.

No guarantees.

Next best option might be a partition of the US into several different nations. But can we do that peacefully - and without causing a world-wide depression?

The electoral system was set up so mini "nations" would collectively decide what the nation does. The left has been attacking this idea for years now. Your proposal is doing what we already do on a larger regional basis? Seems counter intuitive vs current leftist dogma tbh

 

[thewop]

Lot of lunacy here. 0% chance of election "steal."

The only way you could "steal" an election is by harvesting absentee ballots, a tactic used by both Dems and Rs. Legal in some places, not in others, largely considered "ground game." I do think it should be illegal, because you're basically saying "Hey are you going to use your vote? No? Great! I'll take it!" That feels wrong to me.

I can 100% guarantee the loser will claim there was fraud.

 

[Rifler]

That's exactly why the system needs to be cleaned up to eliminate the appearance of potential fraud...

 

[NewVicHawkeye]

Lot of lunacy here. 0% chance of election "steal."

The only way you could "steal" an election is by harvesting absentee ballots, a tactic used by both Dems and Rs. Legal in some places, not in others, largely considered "ground game." I do think it should be illegal, because you're basically saying "Hey are you going to use your vote? No? Great! I'll take it!" That feels wrong to me.

I can 100% guarantee the loser will claim there was fraud.

The ‘loonies’ have been proven accurate time and time again. Wish it wasn’t the case but it is.

He can’t go lower! Pffft just watch him.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I see the left do the exact same thing every single day. You seem to be doing it right now.

One side tends to have facts on its side - and that's seldom your side.