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The water wars are heating up. Nebraska announces a $500 million dollar plan to divert water from Colorado to Nebraska.

I hope technology catches up with demand and desalination becomes a viable option. Israel figured it out. Iran hasn’t. Don’t be like Iran.
Israel has the technology, but it isn't viable. It's highly subsidized. It won't work in the US until cost comes down massively.
Arizona does not touch the ocean as I understand it. That's two big problems blocking their plan to utilize desalinization technology.
 
This is insanely irresponsible:

Meanwhile, Nebraska also announced plans to spend an estimated $200 million on water projects around the state. The plans include building a marina at Lake McConaughy State Recreational Area in western Nebraska, a visitor's lodge and other upgrades at Niobrara State Park and a 4,000-acre proposed lake to be located between Omaha and Lincoln.
Speaker of the Legislature Mike Hilgers said the measure would help boost Nebraska's economy, tourism and recreational offerings. The combined projects would generate an estimated $5.6 billion in economic activity during construction, according to legislative estimates.

Are you shitting me? You are threatening legal action to divert water from Colorado for agriculture purposes, but have enough extra to BUILD A NEW LAKE to boost tourism in a part of the country literally NO ONE wants to go to? JFC.
 
This is insanely irresponsible:

Meanwhile, Nebraska also announced plans to spend an estimated $200 million on water projects around the state. The plans include building a marina at Lake McConaughy State Recreational Area in western Nebraska, a visitor's lodge and other upgrades at Niobrara State Park and a 4,000-acre proposed lake to be located between Omaha and Lincoln.
Speaker of the Legislature Mike Hilgers said the measure would help boost Nebraska's economy, tourism and recreational offerings. The combined projects would generate an estimated $5.6 billion in economic activity during construction, according to legislative estimates.

Are you shitting me? You are threatening legal action to divert water from Colorado for agriculture purposes, but have enough extra to BUILD A NEW LAKE to boost tourism in a part of the country literally NO ONE wants to go to? JFC.

Actually, the far western part of Nebraska is quite scenic.

Spent time over there during the last total solar eclipse, driving to where the clear skies would be.

But, yeah, people aren't going to go there because there are no National Parks of any reknown. It is a pretty nice, out of the way area, though.
 
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Except that Nebraska and Colorado are ~1000 miles or so from any seawater sources...
Yes, but Arizona and California take lots of Colorado River water for ag and other purposes currently. If they get their own, more local sources via desalination, it will mean more water available for Nebraska and Colorado.
 
I took a Water Resources class in college. My professor said that if the United States ever breaks up, it will be over water disputes between the states. It will be interesting to see how disputes over water develop as the population grows and continues to shift to arid parts of the country.
 
I took a Water Resources class in college. My professor said that if the United States ever breaks up, it will be over water disputes between the states. It will be interesting to see how disputes over water develop as the population grows and continues to shift to arid parts of the country.
That are basically mining the water from aquifers that would take centuries to replentish.
 
California needs some nuclear reactors for desalination. Seems inevitable that this is where we are headed.

California could export water as a revenue source
 
Actually, the far western part of Nebraska is quite scenic.

Spent time over there during the last total solar eclipse, driving to where the clear skies would be.

But, yeah, people aren't going to go there because there are no National Parks of any reknown. It is a pretty nice, out of the way area, though.

I too have a fondness for it. Valentine area is really neat. Sand Hills are awesome. Took in the Solar Eclipse just a bit west of there in the middle of nowhere Eastern Wyoming.
 
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This is insanely irresponsible:

Meanwhile, Nebraska also announced plans to spend an estimated $200 million on water projects around the state. The plans include building a marina at Lake McConaughy State Recreational Area in western Nebraska, a visitor's lodge and other upgrades at Niobrara State Park and a 4,000-acre proposed lake to be located between Omaha and Lincoln.
Speaker of the Legislature Mike Hilgers said the measure would help boost Nebraska's economy, tourism and recreational offerings. The combined projects would generate an estimated $5.6 billion in economic activity during construction, according to legislative estimates.

Are you shitting me? You are threatening legal action to divert water from Colorado for agriculture purposes, but have enough extra to BUILD A NEW LAKE to boost tourism in a part of the country literally NO ONE wants to go to? JFC.
My guess is water between Lincoln and Omaha has nothing to do with the farmers in the western part of the state
 
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My guess is water between Lincoln and Omaha has nothing to do with the farmers in the western part of the state
That is not what the article says:

Ricketts said Nebraska would invoke its rights under the South Platte River Compact amid concerns that Colorado's plans for the river could reduce water flows into his state by as much as 90%, taking a potentially huge toll on Nebraska's agricultural and power industries and likely affecting water supplies in the state's two largest cities, Omaha and Lincoln.
 
Ricketts declined to disclose where Nebraska would get the money to pay for the project, saying he’ll release more details in his annual State of the State address to lawmakers on Thursday.


Let me guess. They're going to use Federal infrastructure money to pay for it.
 
Ricketts declined to disclose where Nebraska would get the money to pay for the project, saying he’ll release more details in his annual State of the State address to lawmakers on Thursday.


Let me guess. They're going to use Federal infrastructure money to pay for it.
While he simultaneously decries taxation as socialism by Democrats. BAU.
 
And not to say that Colorado is above the fray. One of the suburban Denver counties is considering using their stimulus money to build a pipeline from a dry area of Colorado to pump out their aquafers.
 
Looks like Colorado is developing at an unsustainable pace and Nebraska is trying to continue to claim the same volume of water they have been entitled to for 100 years.
 
A Northeast Iowa mining company has ended its effort to get state permission to draw millions of gallons of water from Iowa's Jordan Aquifer to export to Western states.


Pattison Sand Company of Clayton notified officials at the Iowa Department of Inspections & Appeals it was requesting to dismiss its appeal of a state Department of Natural Resources decision that denied its permit application. State administrative law judge Joseph Ferrentino agreed to dismiss the appeal Sept. 23 after Iowa DNR attorneys did not object to the motion to dismiss.


The Clayton County-based silica sand-mining company last year had proposed drilling a new well near the Mississippi River, loading water into tank cars and selling it to an Oregon company called Water Train, which supplies drought-stricken communities in New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Wyoming, Utah and Arizona, the permit application states.


Iowa DNR officials turned down the application on the grounds that it lacked information required by state law. Pattison appealed the agency’s contention that the application was incomplete. Iowa DNR officials, according to the agency, did not deny the company a permit but were unable to assess the application on its merits due to lack of information.


Pattison founder Kyle Pattison — who did not respond to request for comment Friday — told the Iowa DNR in a 2020 application the millions of gallons of water that would be drawn by the company and sent west wouldn't deplete Iowa's underground water supply because the aquifer at that point drains to the Mississippi River.


The company requested a waiver from a legal requirement that permit applications say how water extracted from underground aquifers would put to beneficial use. The state denied the waiver.


Wally Taylor of the Sierra Club of Iowa, which opposed the project, said the company had requested in Nov. 2020 that the appeal be suspended for a year before seeking the dismissal this fall.


Taylor said the Sierra Club was pleased with the outcome, adding “we don’t get many victories, but this was one.”


Taylor expressed concern that “the Jordan Aquifer is not being recharged as quickly as it should be anyway, so it was a real concern that Pattison would have been taking millions of gallons of water out of the aquifer,” which supplies drinking water to much of Iowa and other Midwest states.

 
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Any idea what the cost of those snow machines are and how many would be needed to be placed in strategic locations in Rockies, Sierras and Apps to create snow packs and then provide runoff in warmer months as the snow melts? Maybe doing some combo of that, cloud seeding and building basins to catch/store storm water to be used weeks or months later would help.
 
Any idea what the cost of those snow machines are and how many would be needed to be placed in strategic locations in Rockies, Sierras and Apps to create snow packs and then provide runoff in warmer months as the snow melts? Maybe doing some combo of that, cloud seeding and building basins to catch/store storm water to be used weeks or months later would help.
As the climate continues to heat up, snow packs will eventually disappear from mountain ranges in the lower 48.. It's doubtful that it would be economically feasible to replentish them in this way.
 
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This is insanely irresponsible:

Meanwhile, Nebraska also announced plans to spend an estimated $200 million on water projects around the state. The plans include building a marina at Lake McConaughy State Recreational Area in western Nebraska, a visitor's lodge and other upgrades at Niobrara State Park and a 4,000-acre proposed lake to be located between Omaha and Lincoln.
Speaker of the Legislature Mike Hilgers said the measure would help boost Nebraska's economy, tourism and recreational offerings. The combined projects would generate an estimated $5.6 billion in economic activity during construction, according to legislative estimates.

Are you shitting me? You are threatening legal action to divert water from Colorado for agriculture purposes, but have enough extra to BUILD A NEW LAKE to boost tourism in a part of the country literally NO ONE wants to go to? JFC.
I mean, is that really more irresponsible than Las Vegas or Arizona growth?
 
I took a Water Resources class in college. My professor said that if the United States ever breaks up, it will be over water disputes between the states. It will be interesting to see how disputes over water develop as the population grows and continues to shift to arid parts of the country.

Makes me glad that I live in an area with a high water table. As long as we don't give it away or have it taken from us we will always have plenty of ground water.
 
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Any idea what the cost of those snow machines are and how many would be needed to be placed in strategic locations in Rockies, Sierras and Apps to create snow packs and then provide runoff in warmer months as the snow melts? Maybe doing some combo of that, cloud seeding and building basins to catch/store storm water to be used weeks or months later would help.

This sounds like using a battery to recharge itself.

You need water to run the snow machines....
 
This sounds like using a battery to recharge itself.

You need water to run the snow machines....
Well, yeah but it also rains and just runs off the slopes. Was just thinking there might be a way to capture this and reuse it. Probably far to costly and difficult to attempt as it would need to be very large to work. That said, cloud seeding has been shown to work so that should be expanded.
 
I thought that Nebraska was a giant Bird and wildlife Sanctuary? ... the last untouched bit of nature in the land?
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I have actually seen articles advocating the depopulation of about half the state and turning it into a giant wildlife sanctuary.

I kind of liked the idea.
 
I have actually seen articles advocating the depopulation of about half the state and turning it into a giant wildlife sanctuary.

I kind of liked the idea.
Should be done with much of the interior plains. And bring back the herds of bison so the poor bastards don't have to live on a bridge in Iowa!
 
I too have a fondness for it. Valentine area is really neat. Sand Hills are awesome. Took in the Solar Eclipse just a bit west of there in the middle of nowhere Eastern Wyoming.

+1 on the Sand Hills

Drove through much of that area, and it's quite pleasant and beautiful.
All the small towns are little gems in the middle of nowhere.
 
The water wars have been going on here for years. The SCOTUS just ruled for Georgia last year.


 
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Wasn't Colorado made out of Nebraska territory?

FYI, Denver steals water from West of the divide as well.
 
Not Nebraska, Arizona or California, but here's an article about Key West fresh water. When I was a kid, some of our water was from the local desalination plant. Water was more expensive than electricity (which was also produced locally), by far.

 
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When we were in Colorado this past summer, I am pretty sure I heard a stat from a ranger or read it on a placard that something like 95% of Colorado’s water is from Colorado.

Curious how a compact will hold up in court. Seems odd that the legal system would allow a state to enter another and take their resources especially since it appears it’s completely one sided. Where does Colorado benefit? Seems like Colorado was being nice a hundred years ago and now the Huskers are wanting to shit all over it.
 
Are you shitting me? You are threatening legal action to divert water from Colorado for agriculture purposes, but have enough extra to BUILD A NEW LAKE to boost tourism in a part of the country literally NO ONE wants to go to? JFC.

No one wanted to visit Orlando until The Mouse happened.

You never know....
 
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