Think Brands needs to make some tough staff decisions.

[herkyhawk00]

Love Brands, but think he needs to add a new member to the staff like a Dake or Taylor to assist with the recruiting aspect. It would help if we could add someone with PSU ties or East coast ties. I think the program has reached a point where Boosters would step up to pay for the services of someone like Dake or Taylor. Unfortunately, this means cutting ties with Morningstar.

The landscape of wrestling has changed and Iowa needs to adapt or get left in the dust.

 

[TailgateTom]

Love Brands, but think he needs to add a new member to the staff like a Dake or Taylor to assist with the recruiting aspect. It would help if we could add someone with PSU ties or East coast ties. I think the program has reached a point where Boosters would step up to pay for the services of someone like Dake or Taylor. Unfortunately, this means cutting ties with Morningstar.

The landscape of wrestling has changed and Iowa needs to adapt or get left in the dust.

Morningstar is a proven ace recruiter.

 

[The Vak]

The answer is not Dake or Taylor, though they would be awesome. The answer is Metcalf. JMO.

 

[Stanley75]

We have gotten some top notch recruits with Morningstar.

 

[championhawk]

Love Brands, but think he needs to add a new member to the staff like a Dake or Taylor to assist with the recruiting aspect. It would help if we could add someone with PSU ties or East coast ties. I think the program has reached a point where Boosters would step up to pay for the services of someone like Dake or Taylor. Unfortunately, this means cutting ties with Morningstar.

The landscape of wrestling has changed and Iowa needs to adapt or get left in the dust.

I agree!

Signed,
Spencer Lee, The Bull, Warner, Murin, and Kemdawg

 

[moosemonster]

And for the 50,000th time, Taylor and Dake are still wrestling.

 

[herkyhawk00]

The answer is not Dake or Taylor, though they would be awesome. The answer is Metcalf. JMO.

That would be good, but I think we need to look at someone outside of the Iowa pedigree.

 

[herkyhawk00]

I agree!

Signed,
Spencer Lee, The Bull, Warner, Murin, and Kemdawg

Those are some good kids! Problem is, there are 10 weights. We haven't won a Nat. Championship in 7 years and have 3 in the last 17. Those 3 we won were strongly influenced by the VT recruits that came in. In other words, it all gets back to recruiting.

 

[championhawk]

Those are some good kids! Problem is, there are 10 weights. We haven't won a Nat. Championship in 7 years and have 3 in the last 17. Those 3 we won were strongly influenced by the VT recruits that came in. In other words, it all gets back to recruiting.

No shit

 

[herkyhawk00]

No shit

Lol....Well, then bring up a response that can be better defended. You can't spout off 5 recruits and boast that our recruiting puts us in a place to compete for a championship.

 

[championhawk]

Lol....Well, then bring up a response that can be better defended. You can't spout off 5 recruits and boast that our recruiting puts us in a place to compete for a championship.

Maybe if you came around more than once a year you would realize this subject has been beaten to death. The 5 guys I listed are freshman/RS. In short, if the same guys who recruited those 5 can get 5 more in the next 2 years that will give us a lineup of 10 studs. I know that isn't what you want to hear but that's too bad. I hear the football board calling you.

 

[TailgateTom]

No shit

 

[The Vak]

That would be good, but I think we need to look at someone outside of the Iowa pedigree.

I think Metcalf is the best wrestler our program has put out in the last 10-15 years, and sort of an idealized form of the "Iowa wrestler". He was a monster and still recognizable. Plus he's good enough to get a position w/ USA Freestyle coaching, also. I just don't understand how he's not a par of our program anymore.

 

[LaxHawk174]

I agree, the staff does have some tough decisions to make.

Like whether or not to give Morningstar a raise for his excellent recruiting, really the main reason we have some of the great guys we do waiting in the wings are because of the hours M* has put in on the road. Heard someone at NCAAs say M* should just have a 2nd and 3rd house in OH and PA because of all the time he spends out there.

Thats called dedication to making Iowa wrestling great again.

 

[moosemonster]

I think Metcalf is the best wrestler our program has put out in the last 10-15 years, and sort of an idealized form of the "Iowa wrestler". He was a monster and still recognizable. Plus he's good enough to get a position w/ USA Freestyle coaching, also. I just don't understand how he's not a par of our program anymore.

Let's let him get five minutes of coaching experience before we decide he is the answer.

 

[The Vak]

To be clear, I'm not advocating the removal of Morningstar. He's shown himself to be a top notch recruiter.

 

[1stplacehawk]

Lol....Well, then bring up a response that can be better defended. You can't spout off 5 recruits and boast that our recruiting puts us in a place to compete for a championship.

That list is leaving out guys like Happel and Young who were both top 25 recruits. We will add 1-2 more elite level recruits and some other solid kids for the 2018 class. Nobody is going to match PSUs recruiting in the short term, but our teams on the mat in 2-3 years will be the best teams we've had since 2010

 

[grappler6]

From my POV is you do one of two things, if looking to shake up the coaching staff. Not saying a coaching change is the answer or even realistic.

Terry- Make FT HWC coach and work on establishing an RTC. Terry's passion appears to be freestyle and he could still work with the college guys. Would take a lot of donations as that funding can't come from the university. This opens up a spot to bring in another assistant and someone else that can recruit.

Berhow- he has done good things at MN and IA, but doesn't have the ties to the program long term, that would make him expendable. Frees up a spot on staff for fresh blood, but not a recruiting person as volunteers cannot recruit.

 

[hawkster03]

I absolutely love Metcalf. With that said, I'd almost rather have Taylor on staff.

Please don't curse at me, I'm just a child!

 

[rossel 33]

Lol....Well, then bring up a response that can be better defended. You can't spout off 5 recruits and boast that our recruiting puts us in a place to compete for a championship.

As Champion said, those 5 recruits are all very recent recruits. That's important, and shows we are addressing the deficiencies in recruiting in prior years.

So, we will get to competing for a championship before too long. Not next year, but after that I think you'll see Iowa challanging PSU for the title.

 

[LutherAce]

From my POV is you do one of two things, if looking to shake up the coaching staff. Not saying a coaching change is the answer or even realistic.

Terry- Make FT HWC coach and work on establishing an RTC. Terry's passion appears to be freestyle and he could still work with the college guys. Would take a lot of donations as that funding can't come from the university. This opens up a spot to bring in another assistant and someone else that can recruit.

Berhow- he has done good things at MN and IA, but doesn't have the ties to the program long term, that would make him expendable. Frees up a spot on staff for fresh blood, but not a recruiting person as volunteers cannot recruit.

Berhow has does good things with our upper weights and we have some good young ones coming in. I'd like to see how they progress under his eye.
Rutt is still in infancy of his position but i can see it is already paying off
Morningstar is doing a helluva job going into the Lion's Den (pun intended) and pulling out treasures.
Terry is Terry...i think he does a lot of the HWC, moreso than Tom.

As said before, getting guys like Gilman, Clark, Brooks to stick around and have decent success at HWC and passively recruit for the Hawkeyes will also help.

 

[IAhawkinTX125]

I absolutely love Metcalf. With that said, I'd almost rather have Taylor on staff.

Please don't curse at me, I'm just a child!

I will not curse, I promise; however, I actually agree with you. I love metcalf, don't get me wrong, but he is cut from the same mold as tom and terry. In order to make a change in our program, we need change in our program. Taylor or an equivalent would bring a new dynamic to Iowa wrestling and might give us the edge in the future.

 

[natchrlman]

I absolutely love Metcalf. With that said, I'd almost rather have Taylor on staff.

Please don't curse at me, I'm just a child!

People seem to overlook the salary of these assistant wrestling coaches....its not real lucrative....I know a former wrestler pretty well and there was a time when these boards were all clamoring for him to be offered an assistant coach job....problem was he had a family and was making way more than the position paid....and his hours were way better for his family....he had no interest in the job...even though he loves the Hawks...just because people think a particular person would be a good coach doesnt mean they would want the job....Morningstar is a young single guy with no family and he is willing to put in the travel and hours....does a good job

 

[jvclark]

Those are some good kids! Problem is, there are 10 weights. We haven't won a Nat. Championship in 7 years and have 3 in the last 17. Those 3 we won were strongly influenced by the VT recruits that came in. In other words, it all gets back to recruiting.

Key takeaway from the "VT" recruits. 3 of the 4 were from Iowa. Metcalf being the diamond of the class and he was from Michigan.

I'd like to assume we will always get the cream of the Iowa crop(dresser's efforts aside), so we just need to keep strong efforts outside of the state & the past two years are showing that. Kemerer, Marinelli, Young and the 2107 class are signs of that. We are making big strides in recruiting, Teasdale aside

With that said PSU hasn't missed a stride in recruiting so our efforts may only help even the playing field, but we are making steps

 

[anon_hc7hkvtk15hp5]

As Champion said, those 5 recruits are all very recent recruits. That's important, and shows we are addressing the deficiencies in recruiting in prior years.

So, we will get to competing for a championship before too long. Not next year, but after that I think you'll see Iowa challanging PSU for the title.

And how long has Star been on staff? It takes a couple years to start to build relationships with coaches and families.

 

[nearfall2]

The HWC is the key. They need more top 3 freestyle guys. Very successful guys from outside the program. Kids pick stuff up from the people around them. More diversity helps, especially as you get older. Some on here have obviously not wrestled in college, and don't realize that as you get older the stuff that worked your first couple of years is not as effective. You get scouted and they are prepared for your stuff. How many boot scoots did Lincoln do his senior year? It will be expensive but a few quality club guys would go a long way for bringing diversified attacks into the room and bringing in quality recruits from around the country. Ray Brinzer did not wrestle like Gable. He did a lot of stuff he picked up along the way.

 

[nitlion6]

As Champion said, those 5 recruits are all very recent recruits. That's important, and shows we are addressing the deficiencies in recruiting in prior years.

So, we will get to competing for a championship before too long. Not next year, but after that I think you'll see Iowa challanging PSU for the title.

In the past 7 years PSU has won 6 titles and in each of those years Iowa at best finished 3rd. In the year Penn State did not win Iowa could not beat Ohio State for the championship.
Assuming good health for the athletes, next year is a battle between PSU and Ohio State.
Two years from now Penn State losses Zain, but it will still be Penn State's title (again, assuming good health for athletes).
The third year out we will see, but it isn't only Penn State the Hawks need to catch.

 

[319hawkfan]

Albeit Brands was late to the party on the recruiting front.....he has realized it and has made he changes accordingly. Right now Mstar is doing a fantastic job recruiting. I don't see any wholesale changes that need to be made right now. These kids grew up idolizing Cael and want to wrestle for him just like people my age did with Gable. I think when JB hangs it up and starts coaching he will have the same type of impact on future recruits that Cael is having now. TNT have righted the ship....good things will follow. No need for rash reactions right now.

 

[Hawks...#1]

M* is a good recruiter.....unfortunately watching him wrestle matches was like watching paint dry usually...dull and not aggressive. Aggressive and scoring points is the name of the game right now. I don't want good recruits coming in and wrestling like he did. Yeah it won matches but that's simply not enough anymore.

 

[1stplacehawk]

M* is a good recruiter.....unfortunately watching him wrestle matches was like watching paint dry usually...dull and not aggressive. Aggressive and scoring points is the name of the game right now. I don't want good recruits coming in and wrestling like he did. Yeah it won matches but that's simply not enough anymore.

Kemerer doesn't wrestle like Morningstar. Marinelli and Young won't either. They'll all wrestle their own style, and Morningstar will help them refine the technical aspects

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

From my POV is you do one of two things, if looking to shake up the coaching staff. Not saying a coaching change is the answer or even realistic.

Terry- Make FT HWC coach and work on establishing an RTC. Terry's passion appears to be freestyle and he could still work with the college guys. Would take a lot of donations as that funding can't come from the university. This opens up a spot to bring in another assistant and someone else that can recruit.

Berhow- he has done good things at MN and IA, but doesn't have the ties to the program long term, that would make him expendable. Frees up a spot on staff for fresh blood, but not a recruiting person as volunteers cannot recruit.

I said this exact thing over a year ago. We need guys like Metcalf and McD on our staff. They have much bigger names than M* so they can probably out recruit him and were far better wrestlers. Terry can slide over to the HWC full time and Berhow can go now that Big Bob is at the HWC.

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

When Teasdale left he took my hope of catching PSU with him. Just think, when the current crop of guys at Penn State leave they have Brady Berge 149, Travis Wittlake 184, Roman Bravo Young 133, Gavin Teasdale 141, Mason Manville 157 or 165, and probably Seth Nevills Hwt. If things stay the way they are with no changes, we won't catch PSU, ever.

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

2018-19
PSU 125 Nick Suriano Jr #1 Iowa 125 Spencer Lee RSFresh #2
PSU 133 Jared Cortez Sr #4 Iowa 133 Carter Happel Soph #5
PSU 141 Nick Lee RSFresh #3 Iowa 141 Vince Turk Jr #6
PSU 149 Brady Berge RSFr # 4 Iowa 149 Max Murin RSFresh #7
PSU 157 Jason Nolf Sr #1 Iowa 157 Mike Kemerer Jr #2
PSU 165 Cenzo Joseph Jr #1 Iowa 165 Alex Marinelli Soph # 3
PSU 174 Mark Hall jr #1 Iowa 174 Kaleb Young Soph # 4
PSU 184 Bo Nickal Sr #1 Iowa 184 Cash Wilcke jr #6
PSU 197 Anthony Cassar Sr #4 Iowa 197 Jacob Warner RSFresh #3
PSU Hwt Nick Nevills Sr #1 Iowa Hwt Sam Stoll Sr #2

We're not beating them in 2 years either.

 

[snotknockerhawk]

2018-19
PSU 125 Nick Suriano Jr #1 Iowa 125 Spencer Lee RSFresh #2
PSU 133 Jared Cortez Sr #4 Iowa 133 Carter Happel Soph #5
PSU 141 Nick Lee RSFresh #3 Iowa 141 Vince Turk Jr #6
PSU 149 Brady Berge RSFr # 4 Iowa 149 Max Murin RSFresh #7
PSU 157 Jason Nolf Sr #1 Iowa 157 Mike Kemerer Jr #2
PSU 165 Cenzo Joseph Jr #1 Iowa 165 Alex Marinelli Soph # 3
PSU 174 Mark Hall jr #1 Iowa 174 Kaleb Young Soph # 4
PSU 184 Bo Nickal Sr #1 Iowa 184 Cash Wilcke jr #6
PSU 197 Anthony Cassar Sr #4 Iowa 197 Jacob Warner RSFresh #3
PSU Hwt Nick Nevills Sr #1 Iowa Hwt Sam Stoll Sr #2

We're not beating them in 2 years either.

Gonna be fun climbing the mountain...nobody better to lead the way than TnT.

 

[herkyhawk00]

Maybe if you came around more than once a year you would realize this subject has been beaten to death. The 5 guys I listed are freshman/RS. In short, if the same guys who recruited those 5 can get 5 more in the next 2 years that will give us a lineup of 10 studs. I know that isn't what you want to hear but that's too bad. I hear the football board calling you.

If my Aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. Blah blah blah.....

 

[CumberlandHawk]

Maybe as I get older my view changes but I am happy with where we are at. Our recruiting has improved 100% recently(we cant fall apart over 1 recruit that never signed and we still have time to sign another) ,and this year watching nationals was the most enjoyable in a long time. Our guys competed with fire and when they lost they came back with a vengeance. Last Saturday the sky wasnt falling for sure. Now we lose 1 guy and we need to change? What a difference a couple days make. If every year at nationals I can watch 9 of our guys compete like they did I can live with that. We are getting better recruits so my guess is it will be even more enjoyable in the future. I guess I would rather have the Brands than Cael any day. I can live with 2nd thru 4th if I believe we are doing it with integrity. Gilmans interview after taking 3rd spoke a lot about what Iowas coaching staff is doing.

 

[dtripp26]

Love Brands, but think he needs to add a new member to the staff like a Dake or Taylor to assist with the recruiting aspect. It would help if we could add someone with PSU ties or East coast ties. I think the program has reached a point where Boosters would step up to pay for the services of someone like Dake or Taylor. Unfortunately, this means cutting ties with Morningstar.

The landscape of wrestling has changed and Iowa needs to adapt or get left in the dust.

Why not just bring in Cael as an asistant? Maybe John Smith would like to be our S&C coach? Tom Ryan volunteer assistant?

 

[rossel 33]

2018-19
PSU 125 Nick Suriano Jr #1 Iowa 125 Spencer Lee RSFresh #2
PSU 133 Jared Cortez Sr #4 Iowa 133 Carter Happel Soph #5
PSU 141 Nick Lee RSFresh #3 Iowa 141 Vince Turk Jr #6
PSU 149 Brady Berge RSFr # 4 Iowa 149 Max Murin RSFresh #7
PSU 157 Jason Nolf Sr #1 Iowa 157 Mike Kemerer Jr #2
PSU 165 Cenzo Joseph Jr #1 Iowa 165 Alex Marinelli Soph # 3
PSU 174 Mark Hall jr #1 Iowa 174 Kaleb Young Soph # 4
PSU 184 Bo Nickal Sr #1 Iowa 184 Cash Wilcke jr #6
PSU 197 Anthony Cassar Sr #4 Iowa 197 Jacob Warner RSFresh #3
PSU Hwt Nick Nevills Sr #1 Iowa Hwt Sam Stoll Sr #2

We're not beating them in 2 years either.

And those are wildly optimistic as far as Iowa's projected rankings, esp Happel, Turk, Murin and Wilcke.... all relatively unproven.

PSU's (Nolf, Cenzo, Hall, Nickal) are proven champions. Nevills and Suriano are high AA caliber.

 

[cidhawkeye]

And those are wildly optimistic as far as Iowa's projected rankings, esp Happel, Turk, Murin and Wilcke.... all relatively unproven.

PSU's (Nolf, Cenzo, Hall, Nickal) are proven champions. Nevills and Suriano are high AA caliber.

Were they their high school rankings?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Love Brands, but think he needs to add a new member to the staff like a Dake or Taylor to assist with the recruiting aspect. It would help if we could add someone with PSU ties or East coast ties. I think the program has reached a point where Boosters would step up to pay for the services of someone like Dake or Taylor. Unfortunately, this means cutting ties with Morningstar.

The landscape of wrestling has changed and Iowa needs to adapt or get left in the dust.

Or better yet.......he could hire someone to just make Penn State go away.