This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Why do you suppose that has been the case?

I have my musings but am ignorant to the platform, technologies, support, fueling, maintenance procedures, much less pilot and support teams training requires to operate them. Then the US DOD likely needs to review and sign off. Can’t be just handing them over willy nilly.

The F-16's are our oldest active fighter aircraft and we export them to dozens of countries.

Getting them the aircraft really shouldn't be a huge issue. The issue is training pilots and maintenance folks, building up the logistics. Deciding what munitions/ECM/Avionics to give them. Upgrading their airfields (support facilities/runways etc) to handle them.

A time consuming process no doubt but we've been exceedingly slow even designating aircraft for them
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Originally when it was announced I was thinking late spring/early summer 2024 but it's looking like that was way too optimistic.

 

[Joes Place]

OMG Musk & X are such Zelenskyy shills! /s

@Joes Place says this doesn’t happen.

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You told us the bots were gone.

Seems like a "no".

 

[h-hawk]

The F-16's are our oldest active fighter aircraft and we export them to dozens of countries.

Getting them the aircraft really shouldn't be a huge issue. The issue is training pilots and maintenance folks, building up the logistics. Deciding what munitions/ECM/Avionics to give them. Upgrading their airfields (support facilities/runways etc) to handle them.

A time consuming process no doubt but we've been exceedingly slow even designating aircraft for them
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Originally when it was announced I was thinking late spring/early summer 2024 but it's looking like that was way too optimistic.

And I think those in administration with Putinphobia (give them only 31 Abrams tanks, letting the UK take the lead on tanks and cruise missiles, no long range ATACMS) are dragging their feet too. I'm beginning to fear that Biden really IS playing this for the tie-deadlock.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

And I think those in administration with Putinphobia (give them only 31 Abrams tanks, letting the UK take the lead on tanks and cruise missiles, no long range ATACMS) are dragging their feet too. I'm beginning to fear that Biden really IS playing this for the tie-deadlock.

Realpolitik can be a little ugly.

 

[h-hawk]

SIAP

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[Tiny Hands Trump]

 

[billanole]

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Splash 3.

 

[h-hawk]

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From the thread.

 

[h-hawk]

 

[billanole]

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FAFO.
It looks like orc air power is gonna lessen as time goes on. We all wish that the Ukes power would increase at the same time.

 

[h-hawk]

 

[billanole]

Spot on. From the mouths of children…

 

[noleclone2]

This one is really really gruesome. Beware. Also, they should have gone home or revolted. Zero sympathy.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

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The Gepard is pretty badass.

I wonder if the Ukrainians are using it in a “fire suppression” role as well or just air defense.

Puts a lot of rounds out…

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

Booze for the holiday party? Any idea?

 

[Madman_1]

Booze for the holiday party? Any idea?

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Perhaps something a terrorist may attack?

 

[seminole97]

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[Joes Place]

Booze for the holiday party? Any idea?

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Pre-made Biden ballots for 2024 distro....

 

[On Iowa]

Booze for the holiday party? Any idea?

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I was involved in a project to install a cancer treatment device called a gamma knife that had the radioactive core delivered in a similar manner to the hospital. They had snipers all over the place when they did the offload, and the room it lives in is one of the most secure in town.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

And I think those in administration with Putinphobia (give them only 31 Abrams tanks, letting the UK take the lead on tanks and cruise missiles, no long range ATACMS) are dragging their feet too. I'm beginning to fear that Biden really IS playing this for the tie-deadlock.

The issue is the Abrams tanks aren't usable by UA. The Ukraine Army was and still is pretty primitive in training/tactics and the Abrams is pretty sophisticated and takes complex support. They also would show up on satellite as well as a missile due to turbine engines. The F16 though a good fighter takes a lot of training to fly in a war zone. The F16 is used by the US in teams/squadrons. The Ukrainians simply can't do that. The US would struggle to keep F16s from being knocked down.

The Gepard is pretty badass.

I wonder if the Ukrainians are using it in a “fire suppression” role as well or just air defense.

Puts a lot of rounds out…

To be honest, I wouldn't want to be Russian or Ukrainian if a Ukrainian was firing one off.

 

[h-hawk]

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[GoldSoundz]

Booze for the holiday party? Any idea?

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I love it! I hope it's a nuke in there. Let's get this going and kill ourselves!

 

[GoldSoundz]

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Oh sweet! Bad ASS weapons for KILLING! As Jim Zabel used to say, I love it, I love it, I LOVE IT!!!

 

[GoldSoundz]

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Love it! LOOOOOVE the Def Lep soundtrack!!!! Pour some DEATH on ME! Hell yeah!!

Not gonna lie, all these vids from h-hawk got me a little hard. Don't tread on me bros, seriously! I've got a RAGER!

 

[Tenacious E]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

Don't know if real but this is all over X this morning. Suspicious because they have different pro Russian stories attached to them like Putin in this one.

 

[FranklinHawk]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

FWIW

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[h-hawk]

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

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Interesting posts. But you can find pro Russian posts just like this one. Both armies are relatively incompetent.