This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I’m still just can’t understand where Russia pulls these troops from? Half a million people lost and every day in the 1000+
Russia’s enemies have been saying that for hundred’s of years. Hopefully we see a WW1 type of revolt from all the Siberian and west Asian regions they keep feeding into the meat grinder
And if you are thinking of purchasing any stuff to make your room sound better please consider this company in Kiev. They have great prices and their goods look really nice and are effective. I bought some of their hybrid dispersion/absorption panels just before the war started.
Sort of reminds me of some WWII podcasts. Germany was absolutely shocked that Russia kept “creating armies” out of thin air.
"KYIV, July 11 (Reuters) - Ukraine seized a foreign cargo ship on the Danube River and detained the captain on suspicion of helping Moscow export Ukrainian grain from Russian-occupied Crimea, officials said on Thursday.
Kyiv has accused Russia of trading stolen Ukrainian grain since the 2022 war began. Ship seizures, however, have been rare and shipping sources said they were concerned about possible retaliation at a critical time in the year as Ukraine grain exports reach a peak.
The Cameroon-flagged USKO MFU was presented with an arrest order and detained along with its Azeri captain after entering the waters of Reni, a Ukrainian port on the Danube where the river forms the border with Romania, prosecutors said.
The head of Ukraine's prosecutor's office for Crimea, Ihor Ponochovny, told Ukrainian TV that officials were surprised to spot the vessel on the Danube, since ships implicated in illegally carrying grain from Russian-held areas tended to steer clear of Ukraine's waters. Since 2022, Ukraine has imposed arrest in absentia on 21 ships involved in the trade, he said.
"(The seizure) should be a clear signal for those countries that help Russia circumvent sanctions and sell agricultural products stolen in the occupied territories, that there may be responsibility for this," he said.
The vessel had repeatedly docked at the Crimean sea port of Sevastopol to pick up agricultural products in 2023-24, Ukraine's SBU security service said.
An official with the vessel’s Turkey-based ship manager Iyem Asya told Reuters that the vessel’s current cargo was loaded in Moldova.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ns-captain-exporting-looted-grain-2024-07-11/
Kyiv has accused Russia of trading stolen Ukrainian grain since the 2022 war began. Ship seizures, however, have been rare and shipping sources said they were concerned about possible retaliation at a critical time in the year as Ukraine grain exports reach a peak.
The Cameroon-flagged USKO MFU was presented with an arrest order and detained along with its Azeri captain after entering the waters of Reni, a Ukrainian port on the Danube where the river forms the border with Romania, prosecutors said.
The head of Ukraine's prosecutor's office for Crimea, Ihor Ponochovny, told Ukrainian TV that officials were surprised to spot the vessel on the Danube, since ships implicated in illegally carrying grain from Russian-held areas tended to steer clear of Ukraine's waters. Since 2022, Ukraine has imposed arrest in absentia on 21 ships involved in the trade, he said.
"(The seizure) should be a clear signal for those countries that help Russia circumvent sanctions and sell agricultural products stolen in the occupied territories, that there may be responsibility for this," he said.
The vessel had repeatedly docked at the Crimean sea port of Sevastopol to pick up agricultural products in 2023-24, Ukraine's SBU security service said.
An official with the vessel’s Turkey-based ship manager Iyem Asya told Reuters that the vessel’s current cargo was loaded in Moldova.
(More)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ns-captain-exporting-looted-grain-2024-07-11/
I think most of the 4 or 5 mentioned earlier were long term Patriot contributions. (Unfortunately)
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Don't think this is a good idea-wonder what her military thinks.
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Viktor Orban is visiting Mar A Lardo today. That can't be good for Ukraine.
https://apnews.com/article/hungarys-orban-visit-trump-mar-a-lago-ee6ba8edc4d4f4f92b06a9265945df8f
https://apnews.com/article/hungarys-orban-visit-trump-mar-a-lago-ee6ba8edc4d4f4f92b06a9265945df8f
NATO's new training center in Poland could be used to train Ukrainians in larger numbers, closer to home. NATO is really stepping up to coordinate and shoulder more of the load.
https://apnews.com/article/nato-poland-war-drones-ukraine-2132f534129431a789de9133b6917ceb
https://apnews.com/article/nato-poland-war-drones-ukraine-2132f534129431a789de9133b6917ceb
China has no borders with Ukraine, and nothing they need to be involved with regarding NATO.
Eff off.
A thousand per day. Think about that. Would the U.S. population allow that?
I mean, seriously, sit back in your chair and think about that.
Probably not practical to use over Russia anyway but looks like they can.
Putin needs to be assassinated.
Nothing new.
Nothing new.
And why the **** would NATO not allow those f-16s to fly on Russian soil? Russia started this shite.
The US has 2.3 times the population so apples to apples, it would be like us having 2,300 per day.
The article that came out last week in the Economist doing a deep dive on their casualties indicated that 2% of Russian men aged 20-50 have been killed or seriously wounded. That is a staggering number for no true gains. They grabbed just a tiny bit more of Ukraine than they held prior to invasion. At this rate they will hit 4-5%.
Oh yea-and they already are facing a serious population crisis….ironically, that was part of the motivation for war.
Zelenskyy says to win the war, US needs to lift limits on striking military targets inside Russia
WASHINGTON (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Thursday embraced the support of allies who have provided substantial new military aid and a path to joining NATO, even as he emphatically pushed for the help to arrive faster and for restrictions to be lifted on the use of U.S. weapons to attack military targets inside Russia.
“If we want to win, if we want to prevail, if we want to save our country and to defend it, we need to lift all the limitations,” Zelenskyy said alongside NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in the final hours of a summit that saw Ukraine receive fresh commitments of weapons and other support to firm up its defense against Russia.
The summit unfolded against the backdrop of a tumultuous American political cycle, with mounting angst among Democrats about President Joe Biden’s ability to serve another four years following a shocking debate flop two weeks ago that threw the future of his presidency into doubt.
An untimely verbal flub Thursday evening did little to soothe concerns, when Biden at an event for the unveiling of an agreement called the Ukraine Compact mistakenly introduced Zelenskyy as Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Some in the room gasped at Biden’s gaffe, which the U.S. president quickly sought to clean up by saying, “President Putin? You’re going to beat President Putin,” Biden said to Zelenskyy. “I’m so focused on beating Putin, we got to worry about it.”
New British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron declined to criticize Biden. Macron said “we can all have a slip of the tongue” and said Biden, with whom he spoke during Wednesday’s dinner, “is very much on top of things.” And Starmer declined at least five times to answer directly about Biden’s gaffe, instead praising him for his leadership and his preparation in putting the event together and securing solid outcomes for Ukraine.
All eyes were on Biden as he closed out the summit of 32 NATO leaders in Washington with a news conference.
Asked about Zelenskyy’s appeal for greater freedom in targeting Russian forces, Biden showed no sign of easing the U.S. limits, saying he was following the advice of his defense and intelligence officials.
“If he had the capacity to strike Moscow, strike the Kremlin, would that make sense?” Biden said of Zelenskyy. He later added, “We’re making it on a day-to-day basis ... how far they should go in” to Russian territory.
Ukraine has been the primary focus for European and North American leaders at the summit of the 75-year-old military alliance, with Biden earlier in the day announcing a new military aid package and pledging to Zelenskyy: “We will stay with you, period.”
Though Zelenskyy offered public thanks for the package and a promise by NATO leaders that Ukraine is now on an “irreversible path” to membership in the military alliance, he also sounded an alarm: Ukraine cannot win the war with Russia, now in its third year, unless the U.S. ends limits on the use of its weapons to attack military targets in Russia.
The Biden administration permits Ukraine to fire weapons into Russian territory only for the purpose of hitting back against Russian forces that are attacking or preparing to attack them, concerned that the broader use of American-made weaponry could provoke Russia to widen the war.
Zelenskyy has been pressing for greater latitude so that U.S. weapons could be used to hit critical military bases and installations deeper in Russian territory.
The calls to drop the restrictions have grown in recent months, in the wake of Russian military gains during months in which political battles in the U.S. delayed vital military support for Ukraine.
Stoltenberg and Macron have championed Ukraine’s efforts to win more leeway in how it can use U.S.-provided arms. If we tell Ukrainians “you do not have the right to reach the point from which the missiles are fired, we are in fact telling them that we are delivering weapons to you, but you cannot defend yourself,” Macron said in May.
At a one-on-one meeting with Zelenskyy, Biden touted the aid package as his eighth since taking office, with this latest one consisting of $225 million of support, including an additional Patriot missile system to bolster Ukraine’s air defenses against a deadly onslaught of Russian airstrikes.
The Patriot air defense system, the second the U.S. has provided to Ukraine, is one of several announced this week at the NATO summit and is part of a swell of pledges to get weapons to Ukraine to help it fend off Russian attacks, including one of the deadliest of the war this week that hit a children’s hospital in Kyiv.
The devastating missile attack on the eve of the summit celebrating NATO’s 75th anniversary underscored that Putin may not be ready to make peace for some time.
In a comment on NATO allies declaring that Ukraine is on an “irreversible” path to membership, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia’s Security Council, which is chaired by Putin, said Moscow should do everything to “make this irreversible path of Ukraine to NATO lead to the disappearance of either Ukraine or NATO, or better both.”
While promising that Ukraine will one day be a member of the alliance, NATO leaders have said it can only join after the war with Russia and when the allies agree it has met all conditions.
In addition to the offers of more military support, NATO launched a new program to underwrite deliveries of military equipment and coordinate training for Ukraine’s beleaguered armed forces. NATO members also committed to keep up current levels of military aid — about 40 billion euros ($43.5 billion) annually — for at least a year.
The summit has also been shadowed by concerns about growing Chinese and North Korean support for Russia’s invasion.
The flurry of final events at the NATO summit come a day after NATO labeled China a “decisive enabler” of Russia’s war against Ukraine. China in turn accused NATO of seeking security at the expense of others and it has warned the Western military alliance not to bring the same “chaos” to Asia.
Zelenskyy says to win the war, US needs to lift limits on striking military targets inside Russia
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is embracing the support of international allies even as he pushed for the help to arrive faster and restrictions to be lifted on the use of U.S. weapons to attack military targets inside Russia.
apnews.com
Not a surprise to anyone here, but Russia publicly admits that its ceasefire proposals are temporary in order for it to rebuild before restarting it quest to conquer the remaining free portion of Ukraine.
www.newsweek.com
Just like the ceasefire following its 2014 allowed Moscow to rebuild and plan for 2022, any new ceasefire is only intended to do the same for the next phase of its invasion.
Russia to occupy "remaining Ukrainian lands" after ceasefire: Medvedev
The former Russian president implied that the war will continue "until the total destruction of any independent Ukraine."
www.newsweek.com
Just like the ceasefire following its 2014 allowed Moscow to rebuild and plan for 2022, any new ceasefire is only intended to do the same for the next phase of its invasion.
I've posted this over a dozen times.
Take out the supply lines 50-100 miles inside Russian territory and this is over in a few weeks when front-line Russian forces are down to sticks and stones.
As soon as they're pushed back into Russia, sign the Ukraine NATO agreement and let Vlad FAFO.
I don't know about over Russian airspace, but certainly over every bit of Russian controlled Ukraine, including Crimea, and we need to lift up our skirts and give them enough stuff to strike deep into Russia with the F-16s. Anything militarily related to the war in Ukraine 100 miles inside Russian space should be fair game. And, if Belarus wants to keep effing around, inside their territory, too.
And none of this "piecemeal" BS.
Give them a D-Day onslaught, that takes out everything they need for resupply within a 24-48 hr period.
'Shock and Awe' those Mofos.
A letter bomb would be more effective!Email Jake Sullivan immediately
You just know these foreign fighters Russia has to recruit are likely poorly and hastily trained for the battlefield.
Probably explains the high daily death counts and also distorts the homeland losses of actual Russian citizens.
"A passenger plane crashed near Moscow, media reportsRussian mass media write about the fall, probably of the "Sukhoi Superjet-100" liner in the Kolomna area. It is currently unknown whether Russian citizens were on board."
MOSCOW, July 12 (Reuters) - A Sukhoi Superjet passenger plane crashed in the Moscow region on Friday and three crew members were presumed killed, the Russian emergencies ministry said.
It said the plane had crashed in woodland near the city of Kolomna and there had been no casualties apart from those on board. The cause of the crash was not clear.
Mash, a Telegram channel close to Russian law enforcement, said the plane had been on a test flight after repairs and belonged to Gazpromavia, an airline owned by gas giant Gazprom.
MOSCOW, July 12 (Reuters) - A Sukhoi Superjet passenger plane crashed in the Moscow region on Friday and three crew members were presumed killed, the Russian emergencies ministry said.
It said the plane had crashed in woodland near the city of Kolomna and there had been no casualties apart from those on board. The cause of the crash was not clear.
Mash, a Telegram channel close to Russian law enforcement, said the plane had been on a test flight after repairs and belonged to Gazpromavia, an airline owned by gas giant Gazprom.
It reminds me of the old westerns where ships "shang hai" people for their crews by drugging them or other use of force.
