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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

No link or source. Spurious conclusions and conjecture. Who is “we?”
Spurious conclusions and conjecture?

The calls are coming from inside your house! :cool:

I almost never bother to link a source unless I point to it (because it is long), I just italicize anything you can find with google if you're interested.
 
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Well it may also be, i don’t know…Not true.
Or it may also be, I don't know... you're bad at the internet?

Lemme help:

https://time.com/6210678/russia-gazprom-gas-pipeline-europe/

BY BLOOMBERG

SEPTEMBER 2, 2022 1:37 PM EDT
Russia’s Gazprom PJSC said its key gas pipeline to Europe won’t reopen as planned, moving the region a step closer to blackouts, rationing and a severe recession. The pipeline was due to reopen on Saturday after maintenance. But in a last-minute statement late on Friday, the company said a technical issue had been found and the pipe can’t operate again until it’s fixed.It’s a massive blow to Europe, which is scrambling to fill up its gas storage ahead of winter and which has been trying to second-guess Moscow’s next steps in the energy war for weeks. As Europe tries to implement measures to get through the winter, Moscow is keeping its policy makers on tenterhooks.
A leak of oil was detected at a gas turbine that helps pump gas into the link, Gazprom said. There’s no indication how long fixing it may take. Similar oil leaks were previously detected at some other turbines, which are out of action now, and “complete elimination of oil leakage on these turbines is possible only in the conditions of a specialized repair company,” Gazprom said.
 
https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2022/09/02/officials-question-motives-for/

(Reuters) – Russia said on Friday it found leaks during maintenance on the Nord Stream 1 pipeline that supplies natural gas to Europe and will keep it shut for an undisclosed period.

Flows will not resume until all faults are rectified, Russia said in a statement, a worrisome development for Germany and other countries, hoping to build gas stocks before winter.

Nord Stream 1 operator Gazprom had shut the line on Aug. 29 for three days of maintenance, and was due to resume flows to Germany on Saturday. The Russian state company said it found an oil leak that meant a pipeline turbine could not run safely.

The maintenance shutoff was a pretext, said Brussels, which accused Russia of using gas as an economic weapon to retaliate for Europe’s support of Ukraine. A repaired turbine readied for Gazprom has been stuck in Germany.



Presumably the same turbine from Canada?
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...ne-nord-stream-germany-kommersant-2022-07-18/

Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly says Canada still plans to return five turbines used in a Russian natural gas pipeline — despite the fact that the company operating the pipeline refused to accept one turbine that has been returned to Germany already.

In July, the government granted an exemption to allow six turbines to undergo maintenance in Montreal before shipping them back to Germany. The turbines would be subsequently handed over to the Russian state-owned firm Gazprom, which operates the Nord Stream 1 pipeline that provides Germany and other European countries with natural gas.

One turbine has been returned to Germany but Gazprom has refused to accept it, citing technical issues and claiming it wants further documentation showing that the equipment is not subject to Western sanctions.
 
If you ever wondered what an air burst looks like from 500 ft
(apparently you have to click the link to view it on Facebook, but you don't have to have a Facebook account to do that):

 
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Or it may also be, I don't know... you're bad at the internet?

Lemme help:

https://time.com/6210678/russia-gazprom-gas-pipeline-europe/

BY BLOOMBERG

SEPTEMBER 2, 2022 1:37 PM EDT
Russia’s Gazprom PJSC said its key gas pipeline to Europe won’t reopen as planned, moving the region a step closer to blackouts, rationing and a severe recession. The pipeline was due to reopen on Saturday after maintenance. But in a last-minute statement late on Friday, the company said a technical issue had been found and the pipe can’t operate again until it’s fixed.It’s a massive blow to Europe, which is scrambling to fill up its gas storage ahead of winter and which has been trying to second-guess Moscow’s next steps in the energy war for weeks. As Europe tries to implement measures to get through the winter, Moscow is keeping its policy makers on tenterhooks.
A leak of oil was detected at a gas turbine that helps pump gas into the link, Gazprom said. There’s no indication how long fixing it may take. Similar oil leaks were previously detected at some other turbines, which are out of action now, and “complete elimination of oil leakage on these turbines is possible only in the conditions of a specialized repair company,” Gazprom said.

This is a different article and commentary than the one I replied to….it also has several statements from Russia’s state owned oil company. Gazprom. Not exactly a reliable source. May as well be a mouthpiece of the Kremlin.


PJSC Gazprom (Russian: Газпром, IPA: [ɡɐsˈprom]) is a Russian majority state-owned multinational energy corporation headquartered in the Lakhta Center in Saint Petersburg.[3]
 
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This is a different article and commentary than the one I replied to….
Is this to establish for me that you can't google?

it also has several statements from Russia’s state owned oil company. Gazprom. Not exactly a reliable source.
Are you questioning whether they've announced that they're not resuming supplies, or questioning the veracity of their reasoning?
Who cares or believes the latter? The former is what will make a difference.
 
Is this to establish for me that you can't google?


Are you questioning whether they've announced that they're not resuming supplies, or questioning the veracity of their reasoning?
Who cares or believes the latter? The former is what will make a difference.

Well I did try to google these unverifiable and sensationalist claims:

That means that Europe will now be forced to rely even more on... well... Russian gas, in the form of much more expensive LNG resold by China. And after tumbling by more than 50% in the past few days, we fully expect European gas prices are about to go super parabolic and take out all time highs as soon as trading returns on Monday.”

I had difficulty finding this dubious source and your reluctance to share it tells me everything I need to know. You are full of shit.
 
I did find this article that directly refutes your sourceless and unsubstantiated claims. Britain does not depend on Russian gas. So the claim that “Europe” will need to buy “more Russian gas” is false.


EUROPE'S ALTERNATIVE SUPPLIERS?

Some countries have alternative supply options and Europe's gas network is linked up so supplies can be shared, although the global gas market was tight even before the Ukraine crisis.

Germany, Europe's biggest consumer of Russian gas, which has halted certification of the new Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia because of the Ukraine war, could import from Britain, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands via pipelines.

Norway, Europe's second biggest gas supplier behind Russia, has been raising production to help the European Union towards its target of ending reliance on Russian fossil fuels by 2027.

Britain's Centrica has signed a deal with Norway's Equinor for extra supply for the next three winters. Britain does not rely on Russian gas and can also export to Europe via pipelines.

Southern Europe can receive Azeri gas via the Trans Adriatic Pipeline to Italy and the Trans-Anatolian Natural Gas Pipeline (TANAP) through Turkey.

The United States has said it can supply 15 bcm of liquefied natural gas (LNG) to the European Union this year.

But U.S. LNG plants are producing at full capacity and a blast at a major LNG export terminal in Texas will keep it idle until late November.

Europe's LNG terminals also have limited capacity for extra imports, although some countries say they are seeking ways to expand imports and storage.

Germany is among those who want to build new LNG terminals. It plans to build two in just two years.

Poland, which relies on Russia for about 50% of its gas consumption or around 10 bcm, has said it can source gas via two links with Germany. A new pipeline allowing up to 10 bcm of gas per year to flow between Poland and Norway will be opened in October. A new gas link between Poland and Slovakia was also commissioned last week.

Spain wants to revive a project to build a third gas connection through the Pyrennes mountains but France has said new LNG terminals, which can be made to float, would be a quicker and cheaper option than a new pipeline.

OTHER OPTIONS TO COPE WITH A GAS SUPPLY CRUNCH?

Several nations can seek to fill any gap in energy supplies by turning to electricity imports via interconnectors from their neighbours or by boosting power generation from nuclear, renewables, hydropower or coal.

Nuclear availability is falling in Belgium, Britain, France and Germany with plants facing outages as they age, are decommissioned or phased out. Hydro levels have been falling this summer due to low rainfall and a heatwave.

Europe has been trying to shift from coal to meet climate targets but some plants have been switched back on since mid-2021 because of surging gas prices.

Energy ministers agreed that all EU countries should voluntarily cut gas use by 15% from August to March, compared with their average annual use during 2017-2021 and introduced EU-wide targets for refilling gas storage.

Germany has triggered stage two of its three-stage emergency gas plan and urged businesses and consumers to save gas to avoid forced rationing.

The Dutch energy minister has said its Groningen field could be called upon to help neighbouring countries in the event of a complete cut-off in Russian supply but ramping up production would risk causing earthquakes.

(Reporting by Nina Chestney; Editing by Jason Neely and Alexander Smith)
 
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Well I did try to google these unverifiable and sensationalist claims:

That means that Europe will now be forced to rely even more on... well... Russian gas, in the form of much more expensive LNG resold by China. And after tumbling by more than 50% in the past few days, we fully expect European gas prices are about to go super parabolic and take out all time highs as soon as trading returns on Monday.”

I had difficulty finding this dubious source and your reluctance to share it tells me everything I need to know. You are full of shit.
Oh, you didn’t understand this part.
Ok, I can help with that.


One month ago, we were surprised to read how, despite a suppressed appetite for energy amid its housing crash and economic downturn (for which "zero covid" has emerged as a convenient scapegoat for emperor Xi), China has been soaking up more Russian natural gas so far this year, while imports from most other sources declined.

In July, the SCMP reported that according to Chinese customs data, in the first six months of the year, China bought a total of 2.35 million tonnes of liquefied natural gas (LNG) – valued at US$2.16 billion. The import volume increased by 28.7% year on year, with the value surging by 182%. It meant Russia has surpassed Indonesia and the United States to become China’s fourth-largest supplier of LNG so far this year!

This, of course, is not to be confused with pipeline gas, where Russian producer Gazprom recently announced that its daily supplies to China via the Power of Siberia pipeline had reached a new all-time high (Russia is China’s second-largest pipeline natural gas supplier after Turkmenistan), and earlier revealed that the supply of Russian pipeline gas to China had increased by 63.4% in the first half of 2022.

What was behind this bizarre surge in Russian LNG imports, analysts speculated? After all, while China imports over half of the natural gas it consumes, with around two-thirds in the form of LNG, demand this year had fallen sharply amid economic headwinds and widespread shutdowns. In other words, why the surge in Russian LNG when i) domestic demand is just not there and ii) at the expense of everyone else?

“The increase in Russian LNG could be a displacement of cargoes going to Japan or South Korea because of sanctions, or weaker demand there,” said Michal Meidan, director of the China Energy Programme at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies.

One thing that was clear: China wanted to keep its arms-length gas dealing with Russia as unclear as possible, which is why the General Administration of Customs of China stopped publicizing the breakdown in trade volume for pipeline natural gas since the beginning of the year, with spokesman Li Kuiwen confirming that the move was to “protect the legitimate business rights and interests of the relevant importers and exporters”.

Well, we now know the answer: China has been quietly reselling that evil, tainted Russian LNG to the one place that desperately needs it more than anything. Europe... and of course, it is charging a kidney's worth of markups in the process.

As the FT reported recently, "Europe’s fears of gas shortages heading into winter may have been circumvented, thanks to an unexpected white knight: China." The Nikkei-owned publications further notes that "the world’s largest buyer of liquefied natural gas is reselling some of its surplus LNG cargoes due to weak energy demand at home. This has provided the spot market with an ample supply that Europe has tapped, despite the higher prices."

What the FT ignores, perhaps intentionally, is that it's not "surplus" - after all, if it was Chinese imports of Russian LNG would collapse. No - the correct word to describe the LNG that China sells to Europe is Russian.

Going back to the story, the details are intuitive: with Russian pipeline gas to Europe effectively shuttered...




... Europe’s imports of LNG have soared 60% year on year in the first six months of 2022, according to research firm Kpler.

Some more details:

China’s JOVO Group, a big LNG trader, recently disclosed that it had resold an LNG cargo to a European buyer.
A futures trader in Shanghai told Nikkei that the profit made from such a transaction could be in the tens of millions of dollars or even reach $100mn.
China’s biggest oil refiner Sinopec Group also acknowledged on an earnings call in April that it has been channelling excess LNG into the international market.
Local media have said that Sinopec alone has sold 45 cargoes of LNG, or about 3.15mn tonnes. The total amount of Chinese LNG that has been resold is probably more than 4mn tonnes, equivalent to 7 per cent of Europe’s gas imports in the half year to the end of June.
Make no mistake: all of this "excess" LNG was soured in part or in whole in Russia, but since it has been "tolled" in China, it is no longer Russian. It is instead - drumroll - Chinese LNG.

The good news is that the 53 million tonnes that the bloc purchased surpasses imports by China and Japan and has brought Europe’s gas-storage occupancy rate up to 77%.If this continues, Europe is likely to reach its stated goal of filling 80% of its gas storage facilities by November (at which point it will start draining the reserves at a breakneck pace to keep warm during the winter). But while China’s economic slump has brought much-needed relief to Europe, it comes with a major footnote. As soon as economic activity bounces back in China, the situation will quickly reverse, and Beijing will no longer re-export Russia LNG to keep Europe warm.

Hilariously, it also means that instead of being dependent on Russia for gas, Europe is now becoming dependent on Beijing instead for its energy - which is still Russian gas, only this time imported from China - which makes a mockery of US geopolitical ambitions to defend a liberal international order with its own energy exports.

Worse, while Europe could buy Russian LNG for price X, it instead has to pay 2X, 3X or more, just to virtue signal to the world that it won't fund Putin's regime, when in reality is is paying extra to both Xi and to Putin, who is collecting a premium price thanks to the overall market scarcity.

Amusingly, without expressly stating it, the FT does imply that Europe is buying Russian LNG by way of China:

If Russia ends up exporting more gas to China as a means to punish Europe, China will have more capacity to resell its surplus gas to the spot market — indirectly helping Europe.
Why not just admit the obvious - that China is helping Russia skirt sanctions as both countries get very rich in the process? Because then the FT's own judgment - after all, the newspaper is a conduit of the neoliberal thinking that demanded a complete embargo on Russian energy, an embargo which even the WSJ now admits (see "Russia Confounds the West by Recapturing Its Oil Riches") has backfired spectacularly - would be put into question.

FT's flaws aside, the newspaper is correct that the longer this kind of circuitous bypass of Russian sanctions by a hypocritical Europe (which signals its virtue so loudly when the adversary is Russia but doesn't dare say peep when it's China) continues, the bigger China's influence on Europe will be:

The more desperate Europe becomes about its energy supplies, the more China’s policy decisions will have the power to affect the bloc. As Europe attempts to wrestle out of its dependence on Russia for energy, the irony is that it is becoming more dependent on China.
 
I did find this article that directly refutes your sourceless and unsubstantiated claims. Britain does not depend on Russian gas. So the claim that “Europe” will need to buy “more Russian gas” is false.
The claim that Britain is “Europe” is false and misleading on several fronts. Foremost, Brussels isn’t deciding Britain’s policy.

Norway exports fossil fuels, do we equate them with “Europe” and the problems go away? Or is that wishful thinking?
 
I read that and was left wondering what was the capital of Sweden was before.
And then when you look it up, it has been the capital for hundreds of years so that sentence doesn't make any sense. I didn't even catch that-too busy watching the planes :)
 
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And then when you look it up, it has been the capital for hundreds of years so that sentence doesn't make any sense. I didn't even catch that-too busy watching the planes :)
glad im not the only one who raised an eyebrow at that line.
 
I did find this article that directly refutes your sourceless and unsubstantiated claims. Britain does not depend on Russian gas. So the claim that “Europe” will need to buy “more Russian gas” is false.


EUROPE'S ALTERNATIVE SUPPLIERS?

Some countries have alternative supply options and Europe's gas network is linked up so supplies can be shared, although the global gas market was tight even before the Ukraine crisis.

Germany, Europe's biggest consumer of Russian gas, which has halted certification of the new Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia because of the Ukraine war, could import from Britain, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands via pipelines.

Norway, Europe's second biggest gas supplier behind Russia, has been raising production to help the European Union towards its target of ending reliance on Russian fossil fuels by 2027.

Britain's Centrica has signed a deal with Norway's Equinor for extra supply for the next three winters. Britain does not rely on Russian gas and can also export to Europe via pipelines.

Southern Europe can receive Azeri gas via the Trans Adriatic Pipeline to Italy and the Trans-Anatolian Natural Gas Pipeline (TANAP) through Turkey.

The United States has said it can supply 15 bcm of liquefied natural gas (LNG) to the European Union this year.

But U.S. LNG plants are producing at full capacity and a blast at a major LNG export terminal in Texas will keep it idle until late November.

Europe's LNG terminals also have limited capacity for extra imports, although some countries say they are seeking ways to expand imports and storage.

Germany is among those who want to build new LNG terminals. It plans to build two in just two years.

Poland, which relies on Russia for about 50% of its gas consumption or around 10 bcm, has said it can source gas via two links with Germany. A new pipeline allowing up to 10 bcm of gas per year to flow between Poland and Norway will be opened in October. A new gas link between Poland and Slovakia was also commissioned last week.

Spain wants to revive a project to build a third gas connection through the Pyrennes mountains but France has said new LNG terminals, which can be made to float, would be a quicker and cheaper option than a new pipeline.

OTHER OPTIONS TO COPE WITH A GAS SUPPLY CRUNCH?

Several nations can seek to fill any gap in energy supplies by turning to electricity imports via interconnectors from their neighbours or by boosting power generation from nuclear, renewables, hydropower or coal.

Nuclear availability is falling in Belgium, Britain, France and Germany with plants facing outages as they age, are decommissioned or phased out. Hydro levels have been falling this summer due to low rainfall and a heatwave.

Europe has been trying to shift from coal to meet climate targets but some plants have been switched back on since mid-2021 because of surging gas prices.

Energy ministers agreed that all EU countries should voluntarily cut gas use by 15% from August to March, compared with their average annual use during 2017-2021 and introduced EU-wide targets for refilling gas storage.

Germany has triggered stage two of its three-stage emergency gas plan and urged businesses and consumers to save gas to avoid forced rationing.

The Dutch energy minister has said its Groningen field could be called upon to help neighbouring countries in the event of a complete cut-off in Russian supply but ramping up production would risk causing earthquakes.

(Reporting by Nina Chestney; Editing by Jason Neely and Alexander Smith)
Don’t want to get in the middle of your pissing match but Britain left the EU and isn’t technically part of Europe.

Carry on.
 
Today Shoigu declared Pisky is "liberated" once more. They "liberated" it 4-Aug then 13-Aug then 21-Aug and finally now - 2-Sep. 1 month, 1 settlement, 4 Glorious Victores.
 
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what would be interesting to know is how many levels you get down from Putin where you no longer know the truth. Obviously, Ukraine does not have a Nazi government and is not a Nazi country, and Putin knows it. You go all the way down to the children being addressed, and they probably don't know any better. But is information so carefully controlled in Russia that your everyday adults don't know better? All governmental officials? Only higher ups in the government?
Are you sure it's Putin who doesn't know the truth, and everyone below him knows what's really going on? At least in the government? Those without access to information swallow whatever is on State TV, but they know it's a lie in the army and government.
 
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Hope this one it true.

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France’s state-held utility giant EDF will restart all its nuclear reactors in the country this winter, potentially alleviating the energy crisis in Europe during peak heating season.

Currently, more than half of EDF’s reactors are out of operation either because of maintenance or technical issues.

“EDF has committed to restart all its reactors for this winter,” French Energy Transition Minister Agnès Pannier-Runacher said at a news conference on energy security on Friday.

EDF operates a total of 56 reactors in France, but 32 of them are currently either undergoing maintenance or experiencing technical issues, the minister added.

Every week starting in October, EDF will restart one reactor, Pannier-Runacher added.

France has been experiencing outages at its nuclear reactors in recent months, which have slashed power generation from nuclear power plants. France’s nuclear power generation accounts for around 70% of its electricity mix, and when its reactors are fully operational it is a net exporter of electricity to other European countries.
 
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