The question I have is whether the driver knew what he was hauling...
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Not sure if this is the city or the area where we have seen videos of an attack on ammo storage per captions.
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Let's be honest with one another --- all countries, in the midst of a hot war --- commit war crimes.
Some on a larger scale and more deliberately than others, but no military on earth has totally clean hands.
There is some logic in what Gohox proposes. I personally oppose that method on both moral (it's wrong as Russia's civilians are under the yoke of an autocrat and have no say in their state's war conduct) and practical (hitting Moscow and St. Petersburg would exponentially ramp up the likelihood of nukes being used) reasons.
But let's not pretend the U.S. has some magical high ground to stand on here --- the firebombing of Dresden and the nuking of two 100,000-plus resident Japanese cities are likely the three most heinous mass war crimes ever committed. Yes, we can justify them by saying their brutality likely accelerated the end of WWII and saved millions of lives --- and I personally am fine with at least the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings (Dresden much harder to justify militarily) --- but under the literal letter of the law, they were crimes against humanity.
I think if enough Russians died, in Russia, they'd rise and overthrow the midget.
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LOL Portugal.
"Let me just look under these couch cushions, uh, yeah, we got a half-dozen busted up Soviet era helicopters. Ya'll can have them, but they don't run so good right now."
😂 😂 😂
Perhaps HUGE NEWS
They won't do so but Russia could earn a little goodwill by declaring it an open city.
The evacuation has been called after the Russian-installed head of the region called on the Russian army for assistance, raising fears the city will become the new frontline.
Marat Khusnullin, a Russian Deputy Prime Minister, said: “The government took the decision to organise assistance for the departure of residents of the [Kherson] region to other regions of the country.”
Vladimir Saldo, a former mayor of the port city reinstalled by Russia, said: “I want to ask you [the Russian leadership] for help in organising such work. We, residents of the Kherson region, certainly know that Russia does not abandon its own, and Russia always lends a shoulder where it is difficult.”
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/10/...son-raising-fears-city-will-become-frontline/
Ukraine had said that it had hoped to retake the city by Christmas, however, the announcement of an evacuation changes the situation somewhat. It does mean, however, that Kherson could face the same fate as Mariupol which was pretty much destroyed by the Russian invasion. .
They won't do so but Russia could earn a little goodwill by declaring it an open city.
Following losses in the area Moscow this evening Thursday, October 13 announced that it is to evacuate Kherson.
The evacuation has been called after the Russian-installed head of the region called on the Russian army for assistance, raising fears the city will become the new frontline.
Marat Khusnullin, a Russian Deputy Prime Minister, said: “The government took the decision to organise assistance for the departure of residents of the [Kherson] region to other regions of the country.”
Vladimir Saldo, a former mayor of the port city reinstalled by Russia, said: “I want to ask you [the Russian leadership] for help in organising such work. We, residents of the Kherson region, certainly know that Russia does not abandon its own, and Russia always lends a shoulder where it is difficult.”
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/10/...son-raising-fears-city-will-become-frontline/
Ukraine had said that it had hoped to retake the city by Christmas, however, the announcement of an evacuation changes the situation somewhat. It does mean, however, that Kherson could face the same fate as Mariupol which was pretty much destroyed by the Russian invasion. .
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Interesting perspective here (translated) from a Lithuanian Kremlin expert (will be in English when you click link):
"They know how to destroy, they know how to destroy very well and they have been doing it at least since the Bolshevik revolution, and that destruction continues because it is a condition for their survival. This regime cannot compete with the free market, with democracy. Therefore, their goal is not only to destroy democracy in their country, but one of their main goals is, and it is very important for us to understand, to destroy democracy. Because that's the only way they can survive, otherwise they can't withstand the competition. Therefore, they are constantly looking for various cracks in our system, weak points and trying to exploit them."
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"They know how to destroy, they know how to destroy very well and they have been doing it at least since the Bolshevik revolution, and that destruction continues because it is a condition for their survival. This regime cannot compete with the free market, with democracy. Therefore, their goal is not only to destroy democracy in their country, but one of their main goals is, and it is very important for us to understand, to destroy democracy. Because that's the only way they can survive, otherwise they can't withstand the competition. Therefore, they are constantly looking for various cracks in our system, weak points and trying to exploit them."
Marius Laurinavičius: nėra nieko, ko kremlius nepaverstų ginklu prieš mus
rusijos tėkštas karas daugeliui buvo šokiruojantis ir netikėtas. Tačiau labiausiai pasikaustęs kremliaus ekspertas Lietuvoje, analitikas Marius Laurinavičius pokalbyje su Pilietybė.lt teigia, kad tai, ką daro kremlius, yra nieko naujo. Atvirkščiai, yra dešimtmečius besitęsianti sisteminga...
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FIFY.
You're about two steps away from rounding up people in train cars and gassing them.
I think you're giving moscow too much credit - you dont think itd be a tiananmen square pt. 2?
No. I think there is enough resentment against Putin but it hasn't quite risen to the top. The right circumstances would do so. The key difference is that Russians in their larger cities, currently, have a pretty good life. In 1989, the Chinese, whether it was Beijing or any other place, had barely enough food for one meal. That's why it's going to take a lot more hurt in Russia before things start cooking than 1989 China.
No dumbass, I'm against purposely killing civilians, always. I'm sure not advocating it like some morons are.
"The spotlight was on Ukraine’s request for an integrated air and missile defense system, which Milley said allies would strive to fulfill. That would be made up of short-range, low-altitude systems; medium-range, medium-altitude systems; and long-range, high-altitude systems that together would neutralize the threat of Russian aircraft and missiles.
“What needs to be done here by all of the countries at the conference today is chip in and help them rebuild and sustain an integrated air and missile defense system, specifically old systems,” Milley said.
Ukraine has been using its Russian-made SA-6 and SA-8 air defenses to deny Russian forces air superiority and the ability to conduct combined arms maneuver. Now Ukraine is asking for Cold War-era Hawk systems ― a medium-range, medium-altitude system that Milley said is “an older system but it’s quite effective.”
The undertaking would be complex. Disparate systems would have to be brought together, deployed, and made to communicate with radars and each other in order to acquire Russian targets ― and Ukrainian forces would have to be trained on it all, Milley said.
“So it’s quite complicated from a technical standpoint. It is achievable, and that’s what we’re aiming at,” he added.
https://www.defensenews.com/pentago...k-air-defense-for-ukraine-amid-russian-blitz/
Time isn’t the only variable.
If the war ‘ends’ in 45 minutes, but 5 billion are out on a path to death by year’s end, that’s an important part of the calculus.
Iran and Iraq were bombing each others cities in 1984.
War drug on until 1988.
Dead bodies.
"Unique footage from fighters from the Kharkiv region greeting the Russians "
"Unique footage from fighters from the Kharkiv region greeting the Russians "
What happens when you don't (can't) stick to the plan.
That needs the 'how it started, how it's going' meme treatment.What happens when you don't (can't) stick to the plan.
By evacuating kherson they really mean kidnap Ukrainians so they can later insert Russians in their place who will be friendly to the Kremlin right?
Retreating Russian troops are arming Ukraine with modern T-90 tanks as Putin's army digs 60-year-old armor out of storage, Ukraine's military says
Russian forces have been forced to pull obsolete, Soviet-era tanks from storage to compensate for the losses of modern equipment in battle.
I'm afraid this means deportation to Russia, but maybe they'll just move them back to the Donbas.
Aside from a nuke, this is all they have left. Take out infrastructure. Flood cities by destroying damns, destroy energy substations. Try and freeze, drown, or starve as many citizens of Ukraine as possible and maybe they'll give up.
I am currently really enjoying Andor on Disney+, and I am constantly reminded of the similarities of the Empire, Russia, and Nazi Germany.
War crimes are for the losers. Winners don’t get charged, they dictate the terms of surrender….
"Extreme Networks believes that its products were being shipped to “bad actors” in Russia and that an IT distributor was involved.
The networking giant unwittingly supplied equipment used in MMZ Avangard’s office IT systems, a state-owned firm that makes missiles for one of Russia’s most sophisticated weapons, according to a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filing by Extreme Networks Wednesday.
Extreme said that it was supplied with information by Reuters of the sales to the sanctioned company that included emails, business records and interviews with people familiar with the matter.
Extreme, for its part, told Reuters that its equipment was sold without its knowledge and that MMZ Avangard was an “indirect customer” of another networking business that the company acquired in July 2017. Extreme Networks acquired Avaya’s networking business for $100 million during that time.
Extreme Networks reported the findings of its own review to U.S. authorities."
https://www.crn.com/news/networking...-sold-to-russian-weapons-maker-by-distributor
The networking giant unwittingly supplied equipment used in MMZ Avangard’s office IT systems, a state-owned firm that makes missiles for one of Russia’s most sophisticated weapons, according to a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filing by Extreme Networks Wednesday.
Extreme said that it was supplied with information by Reuters of the sales to the sanctioned company that included emails, business records and interviews with people familiar with the matter.
Extreme, for its part, told Reuters that its equipment was sold without its knowledge and that MMZ Avangard was an “indirect customer” of another networking business that the company acquired in July 2017. Extreme Networks acquired Avaya’s networking business for $100 million during that time.
Extreme Networks reported the findings of its own review to U.S. authorities."
https://www.crn.com/news/networking...-sold-to-russian-weapons-maker-by-distributor
I was in a Hawk missile unit in 1970. We were stationed on the border with East Germany.
