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This Team Can Win Out

I agree. If we play like we did today, we can run the table. I'm an Iowa boy, transplanted to Wisconsin. Next week is a huge game for me and bragging rights. Look at Bucky!

Helps having a QB from Wisconsin. He will want to have a really good game! I'm sure he will play with some fire!
 
Stick with the same plan as today and aggressiveness on offense and I believe we can win out. Will it happen? No idea, but I believe it can be done.

The offensive line is key.

We can gush all we want about BF's play calling and Stanley's passing, but without the offensive line bringing back the "Bullies of the B1G" none of that happens.

So, yes, assuming Iowa's OL continues to play well and BF doesn't revert back to piss poor play calling, I think it's very likely Iowa will win out. Wisconsin is obviously not as good as their ranking and hasn't been challenged yet this year and Purdue and Nebraska are mediocre.
 
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I really thought we'd lose this close but beat Wisconsin badly...I think we got there attention and it's gonna be a fight now. I think we're better against them than any team they've played and we win this! This could put us in contention for a major bowl!
 
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we play like we did tonight. We said the same thing about Penn State. Really hoping we stay more consistent this time.
 
Hard to execute at that level for two weeks in a row. Badger's season starts this week, its basically all been preseason up to this point.

Prepare to have an entire week of national talk about how Iowa is going to march into the Camp and beat up UW. It is going to be coming from every angle. UW will continue to be dismissed based on nothing but their SOS (who cares that they have completely outclassed every team they have faced as a top 10 team should) and every Tom Dick and Harry with a hot take is going to be calling for the upset. We will see how that sits with each team.

Enjoy the night Hawks, you earned it. Next week is going to be another battle.
 
Wisconsin 2017 = Iowa 2015. Only difference is the bull comes back to Iowa City.
 
You go from one extreme to the other, always, and I mean always, bitching and complaining, and now you are Captain Positive?
To be fair this team went from one extreme against Minnesota to another with tOSU. I certainly didn't have high expectations for this team going into the game yesterday. Hopefully, the Iowa team yesterday is the one we will see the rest of the year
 
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Hard to execute at that level for two weeks in a row. Badger's season starts this week, its basically all been preseason up to this point.

Prepare to have an entire week of national talk about how Iowa is going to march into the Camp and beat up UW. It is going to be coming from every angle. UW will continue to be dismissed based on nothing but their SOS (who cares that they have completely outclassed every team they have faced as a top 10 team should) and every Tom Dick and Harry with a hot take is going to be calling for the upset. We will see how that sits with each team.

Enjoy the night Hawks, you earned it. Next week is going to be another battle.
Wisconsin sucks. They play in an easy division and don't play msu/osu/psu. I mean look at how osu/msu have dominated your division. What are they... 3-2 vs the west :D.

Also teams like OK are way better than wiscy. I mean one score wins vs baylor, tx, etc and a loss to isu. Now that is impressive lol.
 
Hard to execute at that level for two weeks in a row. Badger's season starts this week, its basically all been preseason up to this point.

Prepare to have an entire week of national talk about how Iowa is going to march into the Camp and beat up UW. It is going to be coming from every angle. UW will continue to be dismissed based on nothing but their SOS (who cares that they have completely outclassed every team they have faced as a top 10 team should) and every Tom Dick and Harry with a hot take is going to be calling for the upset. We will see how that sits with each team.

Enjoy the night Hawks, you earned it. Next week is going to be another battle.
Wrong. Iowa has been waiting for their freshman tackles to get it. It appears they finally do. You will be favored by probably 6. Iowa will show up. It will be a fistfight.
 
Hard to execute at that level for two weeks in a row. Badger's season starts this week, its basically all been preseason up to this point.

Prepare to have an entire week of national talk about how Iowa is going to march into the Camp and beat up UW. It is going to be coming from every angle. UW will continue to be dismissed based on nothing but their SOS (who cares that they have completely outclassed every team they have faced as a top 10 team should) and every Tom Dick and Harry with a hot take is going to be calling for the upset. We will see how that sits with each team.

Enjoy the night Hawks, you earned it. Next week is going to be another battle.

Yes, it would be hard to duplicate those results against Ohio State twice. No, it is not hard to execute well two weeks in a row. We'll see how Iowa does.

Only a fool would think Iowa will just waltz into Madison and beat the piss out of Wisconsin; no one with any credibility will be predicting an Iowa blowout. No one. In fact, I'm guessing the narrative will be more like "Iowa will have a let down after an emotional win vs. Ohio State," but we will see.

You sound nervous and like you're trying to convince yourself of Wisconsin's supremacy more than you are any Hawk fan. Lol. After Wisconsin has "outclassed" only cupcakes the entire season, and will actually be playing a halfway respectable opponent for the first time all season, I can understand why.
 
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Wisconsin sucks. They play in an easy division and don't play msu/osu/psu. I mean look at how osu/msu have dominated your division. What are they... 3-2 vs the west :D.

Also teams like OK are way better than wiscy. I mean one score wins vs baylor, tx, etc and a loss to isu. Now that is impressive lol.

I had to read this twice to make sure I was properly detecting sarcasm.
 
Wisconsin sucks. They play in an easy division and don't play msu/osu/psu. I mean look at how osu/msu have dominated your division. What are they... 3-2 vs the west :D.

Also teams like OK are way better than wiscy. I mean one score wins vs baylor, tx, etc and a loss to isu. Now that is impressive lol.

Word.
 
Stick with the same plan as today and aggressiveness on offense and I believe we can win out. Will it happen? No idea, but I believe it can be done.
Yet you will still pick us to lose each game, starting with how you've already picked us to lose to Connie next week, right?
 
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So what exactly is wrong about my post?

You basically implied that Iowa is not capable of executing well two weeks in a row. In other words, the Ohio State game was a fluke. Had the game been played in September, I would have been more inclined to agree with you.

However, given that Iowa teams under Ferentz traditionally start to gel and take off in November, your fluke theory is more unlikely. In short, Wisconsin will have to have their A+ game to beat Iowa next Saturday. Deep down you know that, and it makes you nervous. Hence why you're on an Iowa message board hoping to convince yourself that there is no way Iowa wins next week.
 

Still, even if Wisconsin goes undefeated, it's very unlikely they will make the CFP. And rightfully so. Their best win (if they were to actually win) would be against (at best) a 2-loss team from the East in the BCG.

That won't cut it. There are too many 1-loss teams the committee will pick ahead of the Badgers. The other bugaboo is the possibility Miami goes undefeated (they'll have to knock off Notre Dame). If that happens, then Miami replaces Notre Dame in the CFP. Also, if Alabama happened to get a loss, they would likely still be in. Then you would have two SEC teams (Alabama and Georgia) taking up two playoff spots.

In short, a lot of teams will have to lose for Wisconsin to make it. And, to be honest, I don't see Wisconsin beating Penn State or Ohio State, anyway, so a lot of the talk is moot. But, as they say, that's why they play the game. Possible, but I just don't see it happening.
 
Wrong. Iowa has been waiting for their freshman tackles to get it. It appears they finally do. You will be favored by probably 6. Iowa will show up. It will be a fistfight.
No one is going to say Iowa is going to Wisconsin and beat up the Badgers. Iowa fans know it will be a physical game. Iowa faced the same criticisms of their schedule in 2015. Iowa's young team is finally gelling and will give Wisconsin a Game.
 
Yes, it would be hard to duplicate those results against Ohio State twice. No, it is not hard to execute well two weeks in a row. We'll see how Iowa does.

Only a fool would think Iowa will just waltz into Madison and beat the piss out of Wisconsin; no one with any credibility will be predicting an Iowa blowout. No one. In fact, I'm guessing the narrative will be more like "Iowa will have a let down after an emotional win vs. Ohio State," but we will see.

You sound nervous and like you're trying to convince yourself of Wisconsin's supremacy more than you are any Hawk fan. Lol. After Wisconsin has "outclassed" only cupcakes the entire season, and will actually be playing a halfway respectable opponent for the first time all season, I can understand why.

You might need to recalibrate your radar. Have you been watching ESPN lately? It is a veritable who's who of fools. They are rooting against UW every week. A decent number of them were picking IU this past week to pull the upset. Most of the country has a vested interest in seeing UW lose and this is the first game where there is a decent chance they might do so. I think there will be quite a few picking Iowa to do the deed.

I've been watching this game for over 30 years and, as you said, only a fool wouldn't be worried about this rivalry matchup. Iowa could absolutely win this game. But I think UW is a much, much better team than people are giving them credit for. This is the first year Chryst has had a good offense to pair with the top 5 D. The scores and opponents may not impress anyone outside of Madison, but we have seen this program grow under Chryst and can see the difference on the field. This is by far the most talented UW team since 2011, maybe since 99, and they play the way championship teams play.

They aren't always locked on, but that is as much a product of the talent mismatch causing us to play bored as anything. Whenever a team has shown any sign of life (get a big TD, INT, or just a general momentum switch) UW has immediately shut them down. As Iowa fans should understand better than most, UW doesn't run a high scoring scheme. We win games in the 4th quarter. We have been in the top 10 all season so teams have been coming out fired up and trying to take us out in the 1st qtr while we are content to sit back in base schemes while they show us their game plan and get the adrenaline out of their system. Then we go into halftime, adjust, and completely dominate the 2nd half. It doesn't lead to a ton of highlights/blowouts, and if you only watch bits and pieces of a game it can look ugly. But it has also led to 30 wins in under 3 years for Chryst and allowed our backups to finish all but 2 games so far this season.

I have watched every Iowa game this season, and last night was the only time they have even hinted at that kind of a performance. I don't think it is unreasonable to be skeptical of their ability to repeat it on the road. I foresee a physical battle that becomes a two or three score Badger win by the 4th. This is a UW squad that is improved across the board from last season's team that was plenty tested. Its not like we are some 8-5 team that caught lightning in a bottle, we have been building to this point for years now and have veterans all over the field. Badgers are on a mission
 
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Decided to check who UW has left, should we actually run the table could they lose all three and land us in Indy? Michigan could certainly beat them, and winning in Minneapolis isn’t a gimme. However, frickin NU will be favored in their remaining games, so if we somehow tie Wisconsin at 6-3 it’s likely the cats finish 7-2. Also noticed that an MSU win in Columbus next week all but locks up th division for them, unless they were to turnaround and lose to both Maryland and Rutgers
 
You basically implied that Iowa is not capable of executing well two weeks in a row. In other words, the Ohio State game was a fluke. Had the game been played in September, I would have been more inclined to agree with you.

However, given that Iowa teams under Ferentz traditionally start to gel and take off in November, your fluke theory is more unlikely. In short, Wisconsin will have to have their A+ game to beat Iowa next Saturday. Deep down you know that, and it makes you nervous. Hence why you're on an Iowa message board hoping to convince yourself that there is no way Iowa wins next week.

That is not at all what I implied. You may want to go back and reread that post because you are inferring all kinds of things that aren't in there.

That was one of the best games Iowa has ever played. It was nearly perfect against a team that many would consider the 2nd best in the country. That kind of game, where everything goes right and the emotion is just flowing all positive, is a rare thing indeed.

That is very different from simply executing well. Iowa is certainly capable of playing well next week. I would expect nothing less in this matchup. I was pointing out that I would expect Iowa to look more like it has in the other 8 games they have played this season. Some good, some bad, not a ton of points and really good D.
 
You might need to recalibrate your radar. Have you been watching ESPN lately? It is a veritable who's who of fools. They are rooting against UW every week. A decent number of them were picking IU this past week to pull the upset. Most of the country has a vested interest in seeing UW lose and this is the first game where there is a decent chance they might do so. I think there will be quite a few picking Iowa to do the deed.

I've been watching this game for over 30 years and, as you said, only a fool wouldn't be worried about this rivalry matchup. Iowa could absolutely win this game. But I think UW is a much, much better team than people are giving them credit for. This is the first year Chryst has had a good offense to pair with the top 5 D. The scores and opponents may not impress anyone outside of Madison, but we have seen this program grow under Chryst and can see the difference on the field. This is by far the most talented UW team since 2011, maybe since 99, and they play the way championship teams play.

They aren't always locked on, but that is as much a product of the talent mismatch causing us to play bored as anything. Whenever a team has shown any sign of life (get a big TD, INT, or just a general momentum switch) UW has immediately shut them down. As Iowa fans should understand better than most, UW doesn't run a high scoring scheme. We win games in the 4th quarter. We have been in the top 10 all season so teams have been coming out fired up and trying to take us out in the 1st qtr while we are content to sit back in base schemes while they show us their game plan and get the adrenaline out of their system. Then we go into halftime, adjust, and completely dominate the 2nd half. It doesn't lead to a ton of highlights/blowouts, and if you only watch bits and pieces of a game it can look ugly. But it has also led to 30 wins in under 3 years for Chryst and allowed our backups to finish all but 2 games so far this season.

I have watched every Iowa game this season, and last night was the only time they have even hinted at that kind of a performance. I don't think it is unreasonable to be skeptical of their ability to repeat it on the road. I foresee a physical battle that becomes a two or three score badger win by the 4th. This is a badger squad that is improved across the board from last season's team that was plenty tested. Its not like we are some 8-5 team that caught lightning in a bottle, we have been building to this point for years now and have veterans all over the field. Badgers are on a mission

I appreciate your passion and enthusiasm for Wisconsin football.

By and large, you're arguing with yourself. A lot of the points you raised I didn't argue for or against. Yes, Wisconsin is good. No, I don't believe they are a legitimate Top 10 team, and I do believe they would lose to Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan State if they played them this year. I think they have a 50/50 chance of losing to Iowa Saturday. We shall see.

I've watched every Iowa game this season as well. And have watched Iowa football for a long time. Anyone who knows anything about Ferentz's Iowa teams knows that traditionally the Iowa team that takes the field in September is not the same Iowa team that shows up in November. I see no reason why this year will be any different. Like I said, Wisconsin better bring their A+ game Saturday or they will get beat. You know this, too, or you wouldn't be over here writing a novella about the greatness of Wisconsin football.

And no, I don't watch ESPN--for reasons you articulated. Hence why I said anyone with credibility.
 
That is not at all what I implied. You may want to go back and reread that post because you are inferring all kinds of things that aren't in there.

That was one of the best games Iowa has ever played. It was nearly perfect against a team that many would consider the 2nd best in the country. That kind of game, where everything goes right and the emotion is just flowing all positive, is a rare thing indeed.

That is very different from simply executing well. Iowa is certainly capable of playing well next week. I would expect nothing less in this matchup. I was pointing out that I would expect Iowa to look more like it has in the other 8 games they have played this season. Some good, some bad, not a ton of points and really good D.

Okay, fair enough.

Semantics on a message board can be tricky.
 
I'm sorry, I thought this was a rivalry game. My mistake. ;)

Seriously though I'm pumped to finally have a real live football game this season. There hasn't been much to talk about for us. So in the spirit of the rivalry;

You can keep telling yourself that "UW needs its A+ game" to have get a W but Minnesota didn't and they nearly took you down 8 days ago. Northwestern didn't have anywhere close to their A+ game and they beat you. As did a far from A+ MSU and PSU. UW needs to play well, no one disputes that. But if you really believe that UW has a slimmer margin for error, playing at home, well, good luck with that I guess.

It took Joel Stave puking all over himself at the goal line (and 3 other times) to give you guys a 10-6 win in your perfect year. Other than that we need to go back to Ricky Stanzi to find the last Iowa W in this matchup.

Last year UW out gained Iowa 423-236, held the ball for 15 more minutes, and limited your NFL QB to 2-13 on 3rd down. This Badger team is better and playing at home.
 
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I'm sorry, I thought this was a rivalry game. My mistake. ;)

Seriously though I'm pumped to finally have a real live football game this season. There hasn't been much to talk about for us.

You can keep telling yourself that "UW needs its A+ game" to have get a W but Minnesota didn't and they nearly took you down 8 days ago. Northwestern didn't have anywhere close to their A+ game and they beat you. As did a far from A+ MSU and PSU. UW needs to play well, no one disputes that. But if you really believe that UW has a slimmer margin for error, playing at home, well, good luck with that I guess.

It took Joel Stave puking all over himself at the goal line (and 3 other times) to give you guys a 10-6 win in your perfect year. Other than that we need to go back to Ricky Stanzi to find the last Iowa W in this matchup.

Last year UW out gained Iowa 423-236, held the ball for 15 more minutes, and limited your NFL QB to 2-13 on 3rd down. This Badger team is better and playing at home.

So we should cancel the game? I'll call the Iowa athletic office and let them know of zero hope.
 
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I'm sorry, I thought this was a rivalry game. My mistake. ;)

Seriously though I'm pumped to finally have a real live football game this season. There hasn't been much to talk about for us.

You can keep telling yourself that "UW needs its A+ game" to have get a W but Minnesota didn't and they nearly took you down 8 days ago. Northwestern didn't have anywhere close to their A+ game and they beat you. As did a far from A+ MSU and PSU. UW needs to play well, no one disputes that. But if you really believe that UW has a slimmer margin for error, playing at home, well, good luck with that I guess.

It took Joel Stave puking all over himself at the goal line (and 3 other times) to give you guys a 10-6 win in your perfect year. Other than that we need to go back to Ricky Stanzi to find the last Iowa W in this matchup.

Last year UW out gained Iowa 423-236, held the ball for 15 more minutes, and limited your NFL QB to 2-13 on 3rd down. This Badger team is better and playing at home.

Lol. You're really trying too hard.

Not that it matters, but Iowa has won the last 2 games in Madison. AND, as I have to continually remind you, Iowa is a different team in November.

You continue to create a straw man of Iowa while building up Wisconsin as Alabama-Lite. The short answer is you don't know what kind of team Wisconsin really has because they haven't played anyone. A 45-17 win over Indiana tells you nothing.

One thing is for sure: Wisconsin is not Alabama-Lite and Iowa will not be the same team that played Northwestern. Deep breath, bud. It's only a game. If Iowa happens to ruin Wisconsin's perfect season Saturday, life will go on. And the sun will rise on Sunday. I promise. ;)
 
So we should cancel the game? I'll call the Iowa athletic office and let them know of zero hope.

Lol.

He's just a die-hard Badger fan who happens to be going to extraordinary lengths on an Iowa message board to convince himself Iowa has no shot on Saturday. Give the kid a break. His anxiety is through the roof right now.
 
I'm sorry, I thought this was a rivalry game. My mistake. ;)

Seriously though I'm pumped to finally have a real live football game this season. There hasn't been much to talk about for us. So in the spirit of the rivalry;

You can keep telling yourself that "UW needs its A+ game" to have get a W but Minnesota didn't and they nearly took you down 8 days ago. Northwestern didn't have anywhere close to their A+ game and they beat you. As did a far from A+ MSU and PSU. UW needs to play well, no one disputes that. But if you really believe that UW has a slimmer margin for error, playing at home, well, good luck with that I guess.

It took Joel Stave puking all over himself at the goal line (and 3 other times) to give you guys a 10-6 win in your perfect year. Other than that we need to go back to Ricky Stanzi to find the last Iowa W in this matchup.

Last year UW out gained Iowa 423-236, held the ball for 15 more minutes, and limited your NFL QB to 2-13 on 3rd down. This Badger team is better and playing at home.
Now you're just being a dick. Iowa is going to punch Wisky in the mouth. Your LBs can't cover our TEs. Iowa by 10.
 
Lol. You're really trying too hard.

Not that it matters, but Iowa has won the last 2 games in Madison. AND, as I have to continually remind you, Iowa is a different team in November.

You continue to create a straw man of Iowa while building up Wisconsin as Alabama-Lite. The short answer is you don't know what kind of team Wisconsin really has because they haven't played anyone. A 45-17 win over Indiana tells you nothing.

One thing is for sure: Wisconsin is not Alabama-Lite and Iowa will not be the same team that played Northwestern. Deep breath, bud. It's only a game. If Iowa happens to ruin Wisconsin's perfect season Saturday, life will go on. And the sun will rise on Sunday. I promise. ;)

Yes the terrible straw man of pointing out your wins and losses with some supporting statistics thrown in there to confuse the issue even more. LOL.

So now that the calendar has switched to November the College Football Fairy has sprinkled their magic Ferentz dust and that game against Minnesota from 8 days ago is totally irrelevant? Or the Northwestern game from 15 days ago? But my arguments are the flimsy ones that are trying too hard lol.

Strength of schedule is not the trump card of college football. It doesn't mean that all other data inputs are rendered moot. We can see how this team looks and weigh that against the schedule. Wisconsin isn't Boise State where they play one power 5 team a year and it is impossible to get a real grasp on their team. We saw most of these same players play 6 top 10 teams last season and play them well.
 
Stick with the same plan as today and aggressiveness on offense and I believe we can win out. Will it happen? No idea, but I believe it can be done.
You folks are funny. You game plan the defense you're playing next, taking into account the fronts they play (3/4 or 4/3 etc.), the coverages they play, their tendencies, their personnel, etc. which is ascertained through hours and hours of film study and years and years of experience understanding what you are looking at. Why do you guys comment on things when you clearly never have an inkling of what you are talking about? You can't run the same 'gameplan' against every team, lol. Jeebus. They have been aggressive on offense all year throwing on 1st down around 40% of the time, taking shots down the field at rates we haven't seen in years and years. They just EXECUTED this game plan better than they have most of the year. And everyone keeps talking about how we came out passing but seem to forget that Stanley didn't come out executing worth a damn on our first drive. I believe he was 1 for 6 our first drive, but we got into field goal range aided by an offsides and a roughing the passer call and a decent FB lead power run (up the gut, lol, you know, the stupid play we should never run with Wadley, lol) for a nice gain. People just remember whatever they'd like and never concern themselves with facts or reality. Just enjoy the games and quit pretending you have any idea what you're talking about. We'll all be a lot happier.
 
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KF's last 10 seasons:
September 32-10
October 22-13
November 20-16 (with 3 to play)

Caliber of competition is a lot different in September. The fact Iowa has 10 losses in September given the crap non-conference schedule they play speaks volumes.

Iowa has had plenty of mediocre seasons, no doubt. The point is Iowa traditionally gets better as the season wears on, particularly in November. When you look at the teams ranked in the Top 5 that Iowa has taken down, they've all occurred in November (Penn State '08, Michigan '16, and Ohio State '17). The Michigan State win in 2010 was October 30.

So, yes, my point stands.
 
Now you're just being a dick. Iowa is going to punch Wisky in the mouth. Your LBs can't cover our TEs. Iowa by 10.

How am I being a dick? By pointing out that Iowa has looked average this season far more than they have looked elite and using the nearest data points in our head to head match ups? I know it is not a great look for Iowa but they are relevant points. If they come out like they did against OSU they will win the National Championship, but the reality is that Ferentz is always good for at least one of these upsets a year where the team plays out of its mind. Usually they revert to the mean afterwords. Iowa could win this game, but based on what I have seen of these programs over the last 3-4 years I like the chances of UW playing well enough to get the W at home quite a bit. Chryst isn't going to give his RB 6 carries.
 
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