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This was no upset

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Let's face facts fans this was not a big upset like it will be called. This NDS team could play with anyone In the Big 10. Let's face it Iowa hasn't been physically handled in both lines like this in quite some time. On top of that our OC and DC were put to shame by NDSs counterpart. Not much to say but congratulations NDS.
 
Let's face facts fans this was not a big upset like it will be called. This NDS team could play with anyone In the Big 10. Let's face it Iowa hasn't been physically handled in both lines like this in quite some time. On top of that our OC and DC were put to shame by NDSs counterpart. Not much to say but congratulations NDS.
If that makes you feel better.
 
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Let's face facts fans this was not a big upset like it will be called. This NDS team could play with anyone In the Big 10. Let's face it Iowa hasn't been physically handled in both lines like this in quite some time. On top of that our OC and DC were put to shame by NDSs counterpart. Not much to say but congratulations NDS.

Say congrats to the Bison, but no legit top 20 FBS team should lose to an FCS team at home. Iowa wasn't ready to play - they got man-handles on the lines, they dropped passes, fumbled the ball, and they missed tackles. This was the return of the Sptember Turd.
 
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Rankings mean nothing. I'm talking about the two teams on the field today and it was no upset. I agree the Off. and Deff. coaching may have hurt Iowa but let's face it we were handled.
 
Say congrats to the Bison, but no legit top 20 FBS team should lose to an FCS team at home. Iowa wasn't ready to play - they got man-handles on the lines, they dropped passes, fumbled the ball, and they missed tackles. This was the return of the Sptember Turd.
Yes and the old Kirk. Bad play calling , ill prepared and just looked flat and unorganized. These coaches are paid damn well and should be held accountable for having the team ready
 
Rankings mean nothing. I'm talking about the two teams on the field today and it was no upset. I agree the Off. and Deff. coaching may have hurt Iowa but let's face it we were handled.
Wonder why somebody hasn't snatched this coach up?
 
It depends on your definition of an upset. Purely by rankings and football subdivision, sure. But based on how good these teams actually are, not much of an upset. Folks can poo-poo that all they want, but NDSU is legit and fully capable of beating most Big Ten teams.

Tons of over-reactions. Not surprising.
 
It depends on your definition of an upset. Purely by rankings and football subdivision, sure. But based on how good these teams actually are, not much of an upset. Folks can poo-poo that all they want, but NDSU is legit and fully capable of beating most Big Ten teams.

Tons of over-reactions. Not surprising.

It also depends on how good you think, or thought, Iowa was going into this game. If you thought Iowa was a lower tier Big Ten team, then it's not a huge upset, and maybe not an upset at all. If you think Iowa is the favorite for the Big Ten West and a legitimate top 15, and maybe top 10, team, then this is a huge upset. This doesn't mean I think NDSU is a pushover, but the top FBS teams should be able to handle the top FCS teams.
 
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It also depends on how good you think, or thought, Iowa was going into this game. If you thought Iowa was a lower tier Big Ten team, then it's not a huge upset, and maybe not an upset at all. If you think Iowa is the favorite for the Big Ten West and a legitimate top 15, and maybe top 10, team, then this is a huge upset. This doesn't mean I think NDSU is a pushover, but the top FBS teams should be able to handle the top FCS teams.
Disagree. Example: We needed two blocked FG's to beat a UNI team that wasn't nearly as good as this NDSU team. For all practical purposes, we deserved to lose that game and were two chip-shot FG's away from that. We ended up smoking GA Tech in the Orange Bowl, finishing the season ranked in the top 10.

NDSU is far from your typical FCS program. Make no mistake -- they're fully capable of beating a whole lot of FBS teams, including very good ones.
 
It also depends on how good you think, or thought, Iowa was going into this game. If you thought Iowa was a lower tier Big Ten team, then it's not a huge upset, and maybe not an upset at all. If you think Iowa is the favorite for the Big Ten West and a legitimate top 15, and maybe top 10, team, then this is a huge upset. This doesn't mean I think NDSU is a pushover, but the top FBS teams should be able to handle the top FCS teams.

Good posts, totally agree.
 
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Disagree. Example: We needed two blocked FG's to beat a UNI team that wasn't nearly as good as this NDSU team. For all practical purposes, we deserved to lose that game and were two chip-shot FG's away from that. We ended up smoking GA Tech in the Orange Bowl, finishing the season ranked in the top 10.

NDSU is far from your typical FCS program. Make no mistake -- they're fully capable of beating a whole lot of FBS teams, including very good ones.

They are, but Iowa should be able to pound them. Thats the glaring issue is Iowa did not show one thing that gives me any sort of hope for the rest of the year?? I mean our Rush offense was horrible and our defense was just as bad. I mean Iowa gets against any Big 10 team, they are going to get smoked.
 
They are, but Iowa should be able to pound them. Thats the glaring issue is Iowa did not show one thing that gives me any sort of hope for the rest of the year?? I mean our Rush offense was horrible and our defense was just as bad. I mean Iowa gets against any Big 10 team, they are going to get smoked.
We've seen this movie before. Iowa is known for its September turd. Nobody thought we'd amount to anything after ASU blew us out in Tempe, either. We had a great year and did very well in the Big Ten. There have been ugly losses to bad ISU teams followed by great Big Ten seasons. Lots of examples.

We're not nearly as bad as many are saying right now. Typical post-loss over-reaction.
 
We've seen this movie before. Iowa is known for its September turd. Nobody thought we'd amount to anything after ASU blew us out in Tempe, either. We had a great year and did very well in the Big Ten. There have been ugly losses to bad ISU teams followed by great Big Ten seasons. Lots of examples.

We're not nearly as bad as many are saying right now. Typical post-loss over-reaction.
You know that we are often on the same page WDM, but not on this (granted, it's opinions so all is good).

To sum this up...........................

It's a typical Kirk Ferentz loss to a team he has no business losing to. At Home no less.

I wouldn't call it an overreaction, I'd call it Business as Usual.

Edit: There is some overreaction I guess, those who want Kirk fired today. I've wanted him fired for years, so this game does nothing for me.
 
Disagree. Example: We needed two blocked FG's to beat a UNI team that wasn't nearly as good as this NDSU team. For all practical purposes, we deserved to lose that game and were two chip-shot FG's away from that. We ended up smoking GA Tech in the Orange Bowl, finishing the season ranked in the top 10.

NDSU is far from your typical FCS program. Make no mistake -- they're fully capable of beating a whole lot of FBS teams, including very good ones.

Yes, the old adage is that on any given day any team can beat another. I don't believe Iowa and UNI were virtually even teams in 2009. If Iowa plays as well against UNI as they did Georgia Tech, the Hawks blow the Panthers away. Iowa played poorly against UNI.

NDSU may be better than many FBS teams, but I don't think they are a Top 15 FBS team like Iowa supposedly was. I think Iowa lost this game because they weren't ready to play, not because NDSU is a better. If we saw the real Iowa today, it will be a long season because Iowa will play a lot of teams that are in the top half of FBS schools with similar (and better) talent as the Bison from here on out.

I think you are saying that Iowa can still have a good season despite this loss. That could be true if we didn't see the real Iowa today.
 
Yes and the old Kirk. Bad play calling , ill prepared and just looked flat and unorganized. These coaches are paid damn well and should be held accountable for having the team ready
The Hawks where as ready as they could have ever been. This is the best Hawkeye team in a long long time and returns very experienced players. NDSU is a better team and good teams make other teams make mistakes and look bad. We saw the exact same thing in the national championship game last year. Really good teams look really bad when they play NDSU.
 
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The Hawks where as ready as they could have ever been. This is the best Hawkeye team in a long long time and returns very experienced players. NDSU is a better team and good teams make other teams make mistakes and look bad. We saw the exact same thing in the national championship game last year. Really good teams look really bad when they play NDSU.

Iowa is not a good team that was proven today. Way overrated, no defense and o line is real bad. NDSU beat a mediocre Iowa team that will finish 3d or forth in the west. It's Iowa not tOSU.
 
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As soon as I saw NDSU on the schedule I thought to myself that we would very likely have our Michigan v App State moment. You can't schedule those games.
 
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NDSU would not play with anyone in the Big Ten.

You're new to college football, I take it. Iowa is one season removed and a last minute touchdown away from being B1G Champions. They took MSU to the wire at Indy last year. MSU had a pretty decent team too, btw. Was last year a fluke? Two years ago ISU got destroyed by NDSU in week 1, then lost to Kansas State by less than a touchdown in week 2, before beating the Hawkeyes in week 3. So did Iowa go from shitty to 12-0 back to shitty in the span of 2 years? You do realize how the pollsters decide how teams are ranked even though most of them never play each other, right? Strength of schedule and common opponents, right? It's a multi-billion dollar enterprise based on team A beat team B who beat team C, so team A is better than team C. Let's see how the B1G season shakes out and then you figure out who NDSU can and cannot play with.

You might want to check out how some of the teams the Bison have beaten fared against some pretty good competition before making these kinds of calls.
 
Wow, I can't believe there was a few of you guys claiming NDSU could beat or compete with most of the Big 10 teams, seriously? Just because they beat you guys? Like the reasonable ones of you said, Bisons just showed up and beat you guys, yes it was an upset and it doesn't suddenly make NDSU National Power house in Division 1 football, wait there not even division 1 football team, my bad. Lol
 
Yes, it was an upset.

No, they couldn't play with anyone in the Big Ten. We have had so many of these types of games over the course of the Ferentz era. His style of coaching lends itself to these results.
 
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Was it the shocker some pundits try to pretend it is? No.
Is it an upset? Yes.

Yes we know about the 5 consecutive FCS national championships and the 5 straight wins against power 5 schools. NDSU is the gold standard of FCS, not just this year but all time. BUT!!!!!!
Iowa is(was) the #13 ranked team in the country. I don't think any reasonable fan thought they were going to just roll over NDSU, but it is definitely a game Iowa should win.
 
It depends on your definition of an upset. Purely by rankings and football subdivision, sure. But based on how good these teams actually are, not much of an upset. Folks can poo-poo that all they want, but NDSU is legit and fully capable of beating most Big Ten teams.

Tons of over-reactions. Not surprising.

Ohio State is like NDSU? Michigan? Michigan State? I'll just put the top 3 (in my opinion) out there to let you stew on that thought for a minute.
 
Here we go with the NDSU would play with anyone argument to rationalize away that distaster. It was only a matter of time. Full Potato.

The reality is they are a decent program who beat an overrated team who has been overrated for the past 12 months. They are who we thought they were. This will be talked about for a LONG time. Program Loss and black eye for the B1G.
 
Let's face facts fans this was not a big upset like it will be called. This NDS team could play with anyone In the Big 10. Let's face it Iowa hasn't been physically handled in both lines like this in quite some time. On top of that our OC and DC were put to shame by NDSs counterpart. Not much to say but congratulations NDS.
Wrong , sorry no other way to put it.
Iowa could have and should have won plain and simple.
 
Rankings mean nothing. I'm talking about the two teams on the field today and it was no upset. I agree the Off. and Deff. coaching may have hurt Iowa but let's face it we were handled.

You know what means something? Monsterous economic advantages and exposure. If you dont think this was un upset you must think the Hawks were overrated and you would be correct there. Why dont we keep track of players on these rosters who make it to NFL.....just got outplayed and outcoached. That simple.
 
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