Tim Ryan > JD Vance
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Yet dummies will vote for a fraud like Vance because they believe Democrats are the enemy.
Reynolds and Grassley certainly respond positively to this crap.
If it were based solely on qualifications, Ryan would win in a landslide. One of the smarter guys in congress around.
Both deserving each. Cornball deserving the Typist and vice versa.
I'd vote Tim Ryan for POTUS. That was magnificent. If Dems don't figure out how to unload the TRUTH on MAGAs, we are screwed
I don't know much about him but he seems a lot more in touch with, and concerned for, regular people than the vast majority of elected democrats. Most of them are more interested in appealing to republicans and pleasing corporate/billionaire donors.
Sadly the race isn’t based on qualifications. It’s largely based on grievances and cult membership. Vance was an outspoken critic of Trump in 2016. He savaged Trump on air, and via social media. Now he’s one of his biggest fluffers. And, keep in mind that Vance is a guy who has spent a large amount of his adult life in California rubbing elbows with the very people his voting base hates.
He does the same thing to House Republicans on the floor. He consistently calls out the lies with logic.
The biggest problem for Ryan is that the national Dems have pretty much written Ohio off as unwinnable when it is imminently possible to take that seat given the idiot the GOP is running. Ryan is getting almost no financial help from the national party while Vance is getting tens of millions...the national GOP is spending about 10x more on Ohio freeing up Vance's money to do other things. Ryan is having to fund almost all of his ad spending out of his own campaign. Once again, the Dems find a way to shoot themselves in the head.
If Ryan could win that seat, he could jump to the head of the Dem class for POTUS 2024 even if Biden wanted to run again.
If Ryan could win that seat, he could jump to the head of the Dem class for POTUS 2024 even if Biden wanted to run again.
Thought I’d read that he has been given more funds down the stretch with the race tightening.
The problem is that there’s only so many different races you can adequately fund without hurting yourself elsewhere…Ohio a few months ago was lower on that list of seats Dems could realistically hope to flip. Even now, as the race has tightened, both in Ohio and elsewhere, it’s still probably only 4th or 5th on that list. They look good in PA, Wisconsin is also tight, and of course they HAVE to hold NV, AZ and GA.
I don't understand that....polling I've seen is essentially 50/50.
Maybe the D's are going off of some internal polling?
Hopefully, you are correctt hat they are going to pump in some badly needed money. Trump's PAC has set aside a million for Vance...there is national money available for Ryan other than official national Dem $$. He's just not getting it.
As of yesterday:
Through Monday, Republicans had spent or reserved at least $37.9 million worth of advertising on the general election, according to AdImpact, an ad tracking firm. Only $3.7 million of that had come directly from Vance’s campaign, with another $1.6 million split between the campaign and the National Republican Senatorial Committee through coordinated advertising.
On the Democratic side, Ryan’s campaign had accounted for $24 million of the more than $29 million spent or reserved through Election Day and splitting another $835,000 with the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Other outside Democratic groups had committed only $4.5 million to the race — about 14% of what the GOP groups are spending.
“Tim Ryan is running the best Senate race in the country and having to do it all by his lonesome,” said Irene Lin, an Ohio-based Democratic strategist who managed Tom Nelson’s Senate primary campaign in Wisconsin this year. “If we lose this race by a few points, and the Senate majority, blame should squarely fall on the D.C. forces who unfairly wrote off Ohio.”
They're going off history without taking into account WHO is in the race. They wrote Ohio off long ago and now Ryan v Vance is making it winnable.
Guarantee you Trump doesn’t know how to throw a spiral. I’d put my entire net worth on it.
To be fair, Ryan has also needed much less money because he personally has significantly out raised Vance. GOP had to pour so much money into Ohio because of that.
There’s certainly a fair amount of this going on here as well. If they knew 6 months ago what they know now I’d wager they would be more aggressive than that. Top priority at the start of the year was to hold AZ and GA, flip PA, and see where the chips fall elsewhere. NV has turned out to be tighter I think than they expected, Wisconsin is a decent chance at a steal as well. Ohio was firmly in that “nice to have” category.
It’s a tough ask to flip that seat but he’s made it at least possible. DNC hasn’t helped much though.
I think some funds will be diverted here shortly and he has a great grassroots fundraising mechanism
Fortunately, the RNC will likely need to continue to pour $$$ into Oz and Walker campaigns unless they decide the obvious... both are poor candidates.
The positive for Dems is three incumbent Republican Senate seats are very winnable...Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Who would have ever thought in a midterm election that the GOP would have to aggressively defend those races?
On the flip side... suddenly Nevada and Arizona are tossups.
Weird year.
The positive for Dems is three incumbent Republican Senate seats are very winnable...Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Who would have ever thought in a midterm election that the GOP would have to aggressively defend those races?
On the flip side... suddenly Nevada and Arizona are tossups.
Weird year.
That's some serious BDE (Big Democrat Energy). We need this guy in the White House. Stat.
Nevada and Arizona were both seen as two of the toughest seats to defend for Dems, along with Georgia. Ohio because of its rightward lean in recent elections was considered a long shot, but Wisconsin even more so imo due to the incumbency advantage.
Totally agree.
This election is so important because the GOP will cut funding to Ukraine the first chance they get.
It's why Putin is apparently helping fund Republican candidates and doing the social media blitz against Dems.
He desperately needs the MAGAt crowd in power to accomplish his goals.
This was just on NBC News yesterday. It sounds like he is basically on his own.
CLEVELAND — Democrats are increasingly fearful that they are squandering a chance to flip a Senate seat in Ohio — a state that once seemed off the map but, according to polls, remains close four weeks from Election Day.
Although the Republican, “Hillbilly Elegy” author J.D. Vance, has struggled to raise money, national groups have propped up his campaign by pouring in more than $30 million worth of advertising.
Rep. Tim Ryan, the Democratic nominee, has been a more prolific fundraiser. But because national Democratic groups have provided comparatively little help on the airwaves, Ryan has had to spend cash as fast as it comes in just to keep up with the GOP onslaught.
The lopsided funding has unnerved Democrats in Ohio and across the country, according to interviews with a dozen party leaders and operatives. Many worry that Democrats will regret not doing more to try to pull Ryan ahead of Vance, a right-wing ally of former President Donald Trump.
“Tim Ryan is running the best Senate race in the country and having to do it all by his lonesome,” said Irene Lin, an Ohio-based Democratic strategist who managed Tom Nelson’s Senate primary campaign in Wisconsin this year. “If we lose this race by a few points, and the Senate majority, blame should squarely fall on the D.C. forces who unfairly wrote off Ohio.”
In an interview with NBC News after a campaign appearance Saturday in Cleveland, Ryan sounded resigned to going it alone.
“The national Democrats … trying to talk them into a working-class candidate, it’s like pulling teeth sometimes,” Ryan said as he tossed a football with his 8-year-old son in a parking lot behind an Irish pub. “We’re in Ohio and we got a candidate running around with a tinfoil hat on. We’re out here fighting on our own. I mean, it’s David against Goliath.”
From the DNC perspective I wonder if it’s due to them seeing other races as more winnable, if internal polling is less optimistic or what. Polling for Biden in ‘20 looked much more of a tossup in Ohio than turned out to be the case.
On the other hand, if Ryan can’t win in Ohio, for an open seat, I’m not sure they have anyone on-deck who could win in the future.
