Time for B10 / PAC12 to leave the CFB BS?
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Wisconsin is undefeated in the regular season, which is more than either tOSU or 'Bama has. I say they've earned the right to be team #4. Wisky played 12 games and won all 12. 'Bama dropped 1.
I'd say it was strategic error on the part of Delany to pitch OSU rather than Wisky. If Wisky and OSU were in the SEC, they'd both be in.
I'd say it was strategic error on the part of Delany to pitch OSU rather than Wisky. If Wisky and OSU were in the SEC, they'd both be in.
The BIG has had playoff slots in 3 of 4 years. The B1G has consistently gotten better bowl slots than any other conference.
What's a B-12 (besides a vitamin)? And, why would Delany quit if he doesn't blow up?
There should never be two teams from any conference. We are slipping right back into the same BS we had with the old system. SEC does not deserve two teams. Wisconsin loses by one score and gets the boot because they had to play another game. It's supposed to based on your body of work....Alabama schedule was just as soft as Wisconsin's. Another broke system! You should have to be a conference champion to be in playoffs and expand to 8 teams to allow the power 5 one bid and then you have three spots for teams like UCF. This is politics and money as usual!!!
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OSU or USC in the playoff? Well don't get crushed by ND and Iowa in the regular season then. Wisconsin? Get a better QB than Matt Lienart Lite so you beat OSU.
OSU or USC in the playoff? Well don't get crushed by ND and Iowa in the regular season then. Wisconsin? Get a better QB than Matt Lienart Lite so you beat OSU.
Not sure if I am on board with the 8-team playoff yet. But I expect this will trigger a move by Delany and the PAC-12 to push for 4 conferences by 2025 ... bye bye Big 12. That should clear it up once and for all - conference champions play for the NC.
I'm ok with the B1G not getting OSU but what I'm not ok with is the SEC getting two in. There's no justification to say the SEC was better than the other conferences this year. If they wanted Alabama then take them but leave Georgia out and invite someone else from another league.
Totally agree. Bama got in because their Bama. It was talked about all season, that they played a weak schedule all year, and yet here we are. They don't play for their conf champ, and their in anyway. Ridiculous...
Ya, Ohio State (2 losses) shouldn't have gotten man-handled by Oklahoma and Iowa; and USC (2 losses) shouldn't have gotten throttled by Notre Dame.
Committee was tasked with identifying the 4 best teams, not conference champs. They had 4-5 football coaches on their that watched film. Alabama has won the title 4 of last 8 years and got benefit of doubt. Ohio State got lit up by Clemson last year 31-0. They got it right. Still should be an 8 team playoff though with 5 P5 Champs + 3 more.
Welcome to what has happened to B12 previously lol
The difference is that the big 12 has done this to themselves. Their basically a one team conference. One team for football, and one team for basketball, EVERY year!
Little did we know that the CFP stood for "Confederate Football Playoff."
The area circled in red is where the 4 CFP teams come from this year.
A lot of the big time recruits and all of the power appears to have shifted to the South/Southeast of the United States.
The area circled in red is where the 4 CFP teams come from this year.
A lot of the big time recruits and all of the power appears to have shifted to the South/Southeast of the United States.
Big Ten and PAC could cannibalize the Big 12 for their own and come up with a system where the two conferences played exclusive inter-conference games and set up a championship between the two using the Rose Bowl as the stage on NYD.
They could suck all the air out of CFB between the two of them. Leaving the SEC and ACC, two conferences with a regional, overlapping footprint to compete amongst themselves. A BIG/PAC alliance would be a true coast-to-coast, national system, something the SEC/ACC cannot offer.
Little did we know that the CFP stood for "Confederate Football Playoff."
The area circled in red is where the 4 CFP teams come from this year.
A lot of the big time recruits and all of the power appears to have shifted to the South/Southeast of the United States.
Its not clear anything's shifted. The SEC teams start out ranked high. If Alabama ever loses, the team it loses to gets ranked in the top 4 without Alabama really dropping any further.
I don't see how this works with 5 conferences unless we go to at least a 5 team playoff (play in game) and conference champions. The cleaner alternative is ... blow up the Big 12.
The Committee says they are looking for the 4 best teams and I think they probably have them.
I wonder this: If Ohio State was playing Clemson,who would be favored by Vegas? Isn't Bama favored to beat Clemson? That should tell us something, right?
There was a column on CBSsports where the author said that you simply cannot get blown out; Penn State got blown out by Michigan last year and that probably cost them last year when OSU was compared to Penn State.
If Iowa would have beaten OSU by 7 or less I think OSU probably gets into this yea's CFP.
OSU did not win their division last year and got into the CFP; Bama did not win their division this year and go into the CFP. Lets face it, being a conference champion does not matter, unless you are undefeated (then you cant be ignored). Being considered one of the 4 best teams does matter.
It would be interesting to have an 8 team playoff with the first round at the top 4 seeds place. We could do these Elite 8 games the 2nd weekend of December. What do you think about these matchups involving the P5 conf champions, 2 other teams and the highest ranked Group of 5?
#12 UCF
#1 Clemson (ACC)
#5 Ohio State (Big 10)
#4 Alabama (SEC)
#8 USC (Pac12)
#2 Oklahoma (Big 12)
#6 Wisconsin (Big 10)
#3 Georgia (SEC)
I consider the SEC a pariah conference since they play/employ pseudo-student athletes in order to field their respective football teams (Vandy gets a pass on this indictment, however, not coincidentally, it reflects in their lack of success in the SEC.) I would like to see something like, if you recruit an athlete that turns pro early, you lose the remaining years of that scholarship (i.e. a recruit leaves after two years and you lose that scholarship for the next two years.) There are just too many fake students going to too many SEC schools. The playing field needs to be equalized in some manner to reflect the student aspect of a student athlete.
I will refrain on this thread since I have said it should be 8 teams. With 5 champs and 3 wild cards. My God, what if ND had beaten Miami and Stanford?! They would have been in as a team not in a conference. It wil change. Delaney and the Big 10 have the biggest dicks in college football and the Big 10 is left out while the SEC gets 2 teams get in?! Lot of old boy scotch right now with power brokers and this won't happen again.
This is clearly not an option. I would love it and to stick it in their collective ears, love the concept. It has about as much of a chance as us beating OSU by 31
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Listening to Paul Finebaum's show today (yeah, I listen to it because they talk CFB). He said the people he talked to said the Big Ten took their exclusion from the CFB Playoff very graciously and didn't really argue. The only thought in my head was, "yeah Paul, the BIG isn't going to get mad, they're going to get even.". I expect there to be a change to the system in the future.
B1G was down a bit this season and didn't have a team deserving of a CFP selection. I don't want to see the B1G whine like the Big 12 did in past seasons when they felt slighted. Bama is favored over Clemson and deserved the #4 spot. I would have put Southern Cal at #5 ahead of the Badgers.
If tOSU had shown up like they should against OU, the Big12 woulda been done. Okie St over five-win Pitt was their next best OOC win i can think of...
If the B1G refs looked after conference interests—like most sensible conferences do—they don’t help tOSU beat Wisky.
Reminded of an old Ronnie Reagan joke: How do Ya know a Pollock at a cock fight? He brings a duck. How do You know the Italian? He bets on the duck? How do Ya know if the Mafia is there? The duck wins...
I seriously think the networks rig all this like pro wrestling...
If the B1G refs looked after conference interests—like most sensible conferences do—they don’t help tOSU beat Wisky.
Reminded of an old Ronnie Reagan joke: How do Ya know a Pollock at a cock fight? He brings a duck. How do You know the Italian? He bets on the duck? How do Ya know if the Mafia is there? The duck wins...
I seriously think the networks rig all this like pro wrestling...
OSU was the BIG Champ end of story Delany had nothing to do with it where do people come up with sh like this?
Yes ... and 'Bama won which conference? It's people that know sh that come up with sh like this. Saban started shilling for 'Bama right after their loss to Auburn. The B1G sat on their asses for weeks ... when they could have also been pitching for two teams (or at a minimum, neutralizing Saban's pitch by pointing out loudly that 'Bama was beaten in the regular season ...and Wisky wasn't).
Duh!
Exactly. I'd even go further and say that Alabama shouldn't even have been in the discussion for the CFP, just because they played who was it, Mercer or some other cupcake a couple weeks ago just to get a free win. Other teams actually play competitive opponents every week.
