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Yup Terry the dipSH!T is at it again.
The guy had to walk over to the other officials 2-3 times to ask questions because he didn't know.
After a FT is shot, the play should not be able to be reviewed.
The guy had to walk over to the other officials 2-3 times to ask questions because he didn't know.
After a FT is shot, the play should not be able to be reviewed.
If a player is being grabbed what are they supposed to do? I mean the whole freedom of movement is a joke!
Ought to be flagrant to hold like that DB for wisconsin...serves him right he missed one of the FT. It is the flagrant grabbing, flopping, horseshit play that leads to elbows.
did not like the call. looked like jok was just trying to raise his elbow over his head .
any contact above the shoulders is reveiwable any time. still didnt like the call.
The whole flagrent rule is BS. If there are appears to be NO intent, it shouldn't be called an intentional/flagrent foul.
You could maybe call a common foul on Jok, but he was grabbed 1st and Wisconsin was called for the common foul.
You could maybe call a common foul on Jok, but he was grabbed 1st and Wisconsin was called for the common foul.
so when does any time end? can they go back 5 minutes later and give em 2 extra free throws?
If you get elbowed as a result of committing a blatant foul where you invade another player's space I fail to understand how you can be rewarded with an F1. That makes no sense.
So in the process of tackling another player I run into his elbow he gets an F1????? Fran needs to start coaching this.
So in the process of tackling another player I run into his elbow he gets an F1????? Fran needs to start coaching this.
We won.....and the refs sucked big time. Some say people don't complain about officials after a win....false
Rule is bad. If you inadvertently make contact above the shoulders as you try to free yourself from a blatant hold, you should not be punished. Especially if you are a "clean" player in that you don't have a history of "grey area" contacts above the shoulder.
If you're Grayson Allen, then you're not going to get much benefit of the doubt.
If you're gonna Jok an F1, then Showalter and Greg Gard derserved to get T'd up for their reactions after the foul call.
Jok's first foul called against him where the Wisconsin player bumped Jok with Jok standing still was even worse of a call.
Talking to a NCAA official who said that is incorrect. Stated once the ball becomes live, the play under question cannot be reviewed. The ball becomes live when the player shoots a FT or puts the ball in play. Stated that reviewing a play after that is violation of the rule.
Saw someone on twitter posted the same thing:
So yeah they f*cked that one up.
Wrong. Reviewhasto happen before next "live" ball. Can't go back five minutes later
It's a good thing that refs couldn't review the blown traveling calls that went in Iowa's favor. Pretty sure that "our" team scored 5-6 points on those possessions. Not saying that refs were good but Iowa caught some big breaks in the game as well.
The quality of officiating is about what we've come to expect in the B1G. There are always several calls missed both ways and a couple of guys that seem to have an agenda. It's a shame, but it is what it is.
Don't think I'd say "lucky". The Wisky guy was square dancing with him before that with his arm around his waist. I understand why they called Jok for contact above the head, but it was caused by the obvious foul prior to the head contact.
Agree on this--we were beneficiaries of some ugly calls/non-calls. Just continues to show time and time again how piss-poor officiating has gotten in college hoops.
I'm not an NBA fan, but caught a scroll item that they are forming a committee or something to look at officiating.
you are right...we also get some calls...no question. However Wisconsin has (under Bo) and it seems Gard will maintain it...has always played the we are getting mugged game..they grab, stick their nose in, fake fall..etc etc to try to draw the attention of officials...and it normally works in Kohl.
Back in the day (60's)...a player like Showalter would have been "purposely" (accidently)chopped in the adams apple..and while he was grabbing his throat...the offending player would have said something like "now you better knock this grabbing shit off"...
I originally thought Iowa got all the calls last night. Then I reviewed the game and realized Iowa had been blatantly screwed by refs so badly at Wisconsin in the past that a neutral, poorly called game at Wisconsin just seemed like it was in Iowa's favor. There were bad calls for/against both teams. Before the game, I thought the officials might be too much for Iowa to overcome. Was pleasantly surprised that they called a few of the holding/physical defense against Wisconsin and didn't whistle the Hawks for breathing on Happ like has happened in the past.
There were still some "and 1" foul calls against Iowa that were head scratching. The refs always anticipate there will be contact. Then teams can hold/push/mug Jok, and nothing is called. Plus then the couple touch fouls on Cook were the icing. Not saying Iowa didn't get a few calls, however it seems calls against Iowa are usually at the worst possible time in the game. If the Jok flagrant happened later in the game, a call like that is usually the dagger. It is good this team overcame the calls and won this game.
That is exactly what I meant when I said it wasn't Iowa's favor. I noticed the travels and calls on Wisconsin originally because we never get the benefit on those. However, it was the And1 where Hayes Jumps into stationary vertical Iowa defender and gets calls or Happ wrapping around Iowa defender plus call that were on review. For on the road in Big10, this is much better that how Iowa is normally treated.
are you clueless that was about a far from a clear anything besides a foul on wiscy moron jebus he didnt even make contact duh get a clue
When it comes to an elbow above the shoulders, referees will be allowed to use a video monitor to determine the severity of the blow. If deemed inadvertent, the referee could call a player-control foul or even nothing.
That's the rule as stated in the rule book. It is virtually impossibe to determine that there was any "intent" other than to extricate hmself from being held around the waist. Certainly not enough to overturn a call that was not originally made. Anyone think it would have been overturned if had been the other way around?
Here you go again posting about something you obviously know nothing about. A foul called is NOT REVERSABLE! A foul was origianlly called and Jok went to the line. Saying once again, that call can NOT be reversed. The question is was there enough evidence to show that there was intent on jok's part to throw an elbow or was it inadvertent in his attempt to get away from the ws players arm around his waist. Read the rule...I have posted it here so you will actually understand it.
When it comes to an elbow above the shoulders, referees will be allowed to use a video monitor to determine the severity of the blow. If deemed inadvertent, the referee could call a player-control foul or even nothing.
Wouldn't it be cool if, on a neutral floor in DC, refs don't allow Jok's movement to be impeded?
Hell, why wait for BTT? How about Sunday on our floor?
Hell, why wait for BTT? How about Sunday on our floor?
Back in the day (60's)...a player like Showalter would have been "purposely" (accidently)chopped in the adams apple..and while he was grabbing his throat...the offending player would have said something like "now you better knock this grabbing shit off"...
I'm no millenial myself, but I'm going to say that the quote would be "hey you dummy, straighten up and fly right!"
So you will further understand. A player controlled foul would have meant, another foul charged against Jok and Ws getting the ball out of bounds after Jok's second free throw. Which after watching the replay 5-6 times, is absolutely all that could have been called, if that.
Bad calls/missed calls both ways last night. Jok should have shot about 20 FTs, we got away with a bunch of travels and got a bogus F1. Procedural things like reviewing the contact after a live ball drive me nuts however. In the end we won the game and it doesn't matter.
Couldn't agree with this more! If refs stick with the freedom of movement calls, the BTT could be a lot of fun!
you are saying 2 fouls could have been called on Jok ? if you are the answer is no, they could not call 2 fouls on jok on that play.
Not saying that. Saying on review , one, player control foul could have been assessed on jok which would have given ws the ball out of bounds after the foul shots.
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