dont forget happ traveled 3 or 4 times . he gets happy feet and switches one pivot foot for the other.
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pretty sure they can not call jok for a player control foul on review. the only thing they can review is the above the shoulder contact, if it was not deemed to be of the the F1 variety then joks contact on showalter would be considered incidental . if they call a double foul which means both fouls happened at the same time i believe there would have been no free throws and we would have went to a possession arrow throw in.
Here is the rule one more time:
When it comes to an elbow above the shoulders, referees will be allowed to use a video monitor to determine the severity of the blow. If deemed inadvertent, the referee could call a player-control foul or even nothing.
and here is the problem ONE more time , the situation is different by there being a foul called on showalter. if you call a foul on jok it becomes a double foul situation , there would be no F.T.s and there would be an alternating possession throw in. if the foul by wisconsin was deemed to come first then the contact by jok , IF not deemed flagrant should have been ignored . even if you could call jok for a player control foul in this situation free throws would not have been awared. the rule you are quoting assumes there is no other foul called.
Ok, one more time and then I am done here. A foul was called on the ws player. That is NOT REVIEWABLE OR REVERSIBLE. What is reviewable is was there a blow to the head and if so was it intentional or inadvertent.
There is a specific rule that governs the latter which i took from the rule book and supplied. One more time...there was only one foul called initially and that call can not be reversed. The only question was the interpitation of the rule which I have noted here. You can not review or reverse a called foul. In essence there was a double foul called and as you saw jok did shoot foul shots....the question is should it have been a common foul or no foul or a f1 foul.
i am glad that for the most part i was able to make you understand what was going on, by the way most of your last post was never mentioned in any of your other posts.
I was in shock when they called that a F1. They even had looked at it for a long time to show it wasn't a F1.
Guy holds him, like tackles him, he just tried to get away and barely made contact with his head if any contact at all. Jok wasn't even looking at him.
Guy holds him, like tackles him, he just tried to get away and barely made contact with his head if any contact at all. Jok wasn't even looking at him.
I rewatched the game, Iowa should have won by 15 the refs were worse watching it a second time. Also Calhoun said bad call like 5 times and everytime it was a call on Iowa.
I understood what was going on perfectly. I understood as you did not that the original foul called on the ws player could not be reversed and i understood what the protocol was for reviewing the potential contact with the head and the possible results.
The part that gets me is that by rule the review could not happen after Jok shot his first FT. Procedurally it had to happen before that FT or not at all.
Technically they are saying the ball wasn't in play until jok was given the ball to shoot the second foul shot. Although that only works if it was a two shot foul. Does anyone recall if we were in the double bonus at the time. Guess i could go back and look.
This is very true! We even had a hatchet man on the bench for that purpose in the old days.you are right...we also get some calls...no question. However Wisconsin has (under Bo) and it seems Gard will maintain it...has always played the we are getting mugged game..they grab, stick their nose in, fake fall..etc etc to try to draw the attention of officials...and it normally works in Kohl.
Back in the day (60's)...a player like Showalter would have been "purposely" (accidently)chopped in the adams apple..and while he was grabbing his throat...the offending player would have said something like "now you better knock this grabbing shit off"...
It was a 1 and 1....was the 9th team foul on Wisky...ball was live the second the ref bounced it to Jok.
It wouldn't matter, it's a live ball as soon as they give it to Jok to shoot the 1st FT, even if he were shooting 3. Given that, the review should not have happened.
This part you are right about. They can't call a common foul as the result of a review. However, since they didn't review the call during the dead ball period, it should have been a moot point. They screwed up by reviewing after the FT.
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