tOSU vs Kentucky, Penn State at VCU & DePaul at Northwestern Tomorrow Cancelled; Too Many Within the Programs have COVID

[Franisdaman]

Saturday's showdown between UCLA and North Carolina in Las Vegas has been canceled because of COVID-19 issues within the Bruins' men's basketball program, it was announced Friday.

With Ohio State dropping out of the CBS Sports Classic earlier this week and leaving Kentucky without an opponent, the Tar Heels and Wildcats will now face each other on Saturday at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas (5:30 p.m. ET).

UCLA on COVID pause; UNC to play Kentucky

With UCLA and Ohio State having dropped out of the CBS Sports Classic in Las Vegas because of COVID-19 issues within the programs, North Carolina and Kentucky will now play each other at T-Mobile Arena on Saturday, sources confirmed to ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[walleye hunter16]

there won't be any shut downs again, imo.

there are still some companies requesting that you wear masks when you enter; if you go to the doctor, you have to wear a mask.

Some venues (concerts) are requiring proof of vaccination, which I have no problem with.

As long as 40% of the country is unvaccinated, we are going to have covid outbreak issues.

Okay Mr Political, I've had enough.
How do you or anyone else know the unvaxed people don't have antibodies?
Yeah, thats right this whole thing has been political and not been done with best medical practices in mind.
Treatments are and have been available for a long time now, why are we not seeing more attention to that?
Its a virus, is endemic , was always going to be and our leadership has been simply scaring the living crap out of a large portion of the population.
So quit trying to throw more gas on the fire.

 

[Franisdaman]

Okay Mr Political, I've had enough.
How do you or anyone else know the unvaxed people don't have antibodies?
Yeah, thats right this whole thing has been political and not been done with best medical practices in mind.
Treatments are and have been available for a long time now, why are we not seeing more attention to that?
Its a virus, is endemic , was always going to be and our leadership has been simply scaring the living crap out of a large portion of the population.
So quit trying to throw more gas on the fire.

Getting the vaccine should have never been made political.

And you are wrong; there is not one credible medical doctor out there saying to not get vaccinated.

And you are wrong again. "Leadership" has not been simply trying to scare the living crap out of a large portion of the population. Instead, they are simply agreeing with medical doctors in the fact that vaccines work.

So quit attempting to make ridiculous excuses for the 40% of Americans who refuse the shots.

And the treatments you talk about; are you ok if the unvaccinated are denied a hospital bed when they get deathly sick with covid? I mean, they refuse to get treated with the vaccine so why should they expect treatment and a hospital bed when they are deathly ill?

 

[KcTo]

Are you familiar with hospitalization and death rates for the delta and omicron variants? Trust the science.

The omicron will eliminate the delta.

If these cases are omicron, the data from So Africa and from around the world, all suggests the severity of potential serious disease is very low.

Omicron is showing up in the unvaxxed So African population but the hospitalizations and deaths are not.
Omicron is showing up in the vaxxed , boosted populations but the hospitalizations and deaths are not.
Omicron is as high as 70x more transmissible (as delta) but not nearly as deadly
-only 10 people world,wide have died and the majority have died with CoVid , not from.
Omicron hospitalizations are mostly from patients admitted with another ailment, CoVid being incidental finding.
Omicron is manifesting it self in the upper bronchia- pharyngeal airways and not like delta in the deep lung cells.

im beginning to subscribe to the theory that this is a Christmas gift of sorts that will spread to all , with minor symptoms ie cold, and give all natural immunity and build world wide herd immunity that will protect all humanity.

im also thinking that

A. D-3 sufficiency prior to onset
B. Immediate therapy with anti-virals and Z PAC

will combine to drastically reDuce severity and time with CoVid
(much more on this in the next 36 hours)

 

[KcTo]

Getting the vaccine should have never been made political.

And you are wrong; there is not one credible medical doctor out there saying to not get vaccinated.

And you are wrong again. "Leadership" has not been simply trying to scare the living crap out of a large portion of the population. Instead, they are simply agreeing with medical doctors in the fact that vaccines work.

So quit attempting to make ridiculous excuses for the 40% of Americans who refuse the shots.

And the treatments you talk about; are you ok if the unvaccinated are denied a hospital bed when they get deathly sick with covid? I mean, they refuse to get treated with the vaccine so why should they expect treatment and a hospital bed when they are deathly ill?

Let’s not get treatment for CoVid confused with getting the vaccine for protection.

these are 2 mutually exclusive activities..

What is the treatment regimen is being employed once diagnosed with CoVid?

in Addition to the Emergency Use mRNA protections that are provide, What else can be done for biological protection before you come in contact with CoVid?
(Biological protection, which is different than physical protection like mask barriers, distancing,)

What is the CDC/WHO position on these 2?

 

[Steve Waite]

Nobody is panicking, but this can be gotten under control. People need to be vaccinated and it will stop mutating.

Typical liberal, you don’t even have the facts correct. Why are all these teams vaccinated but still getting Covid? 87% of all new hospitalizations are people who are already vaccinated. How can this be? Please enlighten me you ignorant sheep!

 

[RocknRollface]

If these cases are omicron, the data from So Africa and from around the world, all suggests the severity of potential serious disease is very low.

Omicron is showing up in the unvaxxed So African population but the hospitalizations and deaths are not.
Omicron is showing up in the vaxxed , boosted populations but the hospitalizations and deaths are not.
Omicron is as high as 70x more transmissible (as delta) but not nearly as deadly
-only 10 people world,wide have died and the majority have died with CoVid , not from.
Omicron hospitalizations are mostly from patients admitted with another ailment, CoVid being incidental finding.
Omicron is manifesting it self in the upper bronchia- pharyngeal airways and not like delta in the deep lung cells.

im beginning to subscribe to the theory that this is a Christmas gift of sorts that will spread to all , with minor symptoms ie cold, and give all natural immunity and build world wide herd immunity that will protect all humanity.

im also thinking that

A. D-3 sufficiency prior to onset
B. Immediate therapy with anti-virals and Z PAC

will combine to drastically reDuce severity and time with CoVid
(much more on this in the next 36 hours)

Exactly.

Everyone is going to get Omicron. Vaxed or not.

If you have a shot or if you're a normal healthy person with no underlying health conditions you have basically nothing to worry about.

Testing for it is counterproductive at this point because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory.

Politicians are either too stupid or too dishonest to admit it because they love the control they got from this.

 

[walleye hunter16]

Getting the vaccine should have never been made political.

And you are wrong; there is not one credible medical doctor out there saying to not get vaccinated.

And you are wrong again. "Leadership" has not been simply trying to scare the living crap out of a large portion of the population. Instead, they are simply agreeing with medical doctors in the fact that vaccines work.

So quit attempting to make ridiculous excuses for the 40% of Americans who refuse the shots.

And the treatments you talk about; are you ok if the unvaccinated are denied a hospital bed when they get deathly sick with covid? I mean, they refuse to get treated with the vaccine so why should they expect treatment and a hospital bed when they are deathly ill?

Your opinion doesn’t dictate or govern others. And what others choose to do is none of your damn business.
Our "leading" Dr's have lied repeatedly and have been very obvious about it. Politicians still yap in front of millions on TV everyday trying to freak people out more which does nothing to help the situation.
They have not promoted antibody testing because it would likely show that 90+% of people have been vaxed or had some forms of the virus and it would further confirm it is endemic and we need to settle down and deal with it like the other viruses we deal with all the time.
If you are too stupid to see that after 2 yrs of living proof in front of you then the unvaxed are not the only ones too stupid to help themselves.
Hysteria has always been a great strategy to solve a problem.
This didn't NEED to become political but the leadership NEEDED it to be for their benefit and they continue to stoke the fire of fear just like yourself.

 

[wcbtee]

I am sick of Covid it’s messing with my sports viewing

 

[Arbor1]

Getting the vaccine should have never been made political.

And you are wrong; there is not one credible medical doctor out there saying to not get vaccinated.

And you are wrong again. "Leadership" has not been simply trying to scare the living crap out of a large portion of the population. Instead, they are simply agreeing with medical doctors in the fact that vaccines work.

So quit attempting to make ridiculous excuses for the 40% of Americans who refuse the shots.

And the treatments you talk about; are you ok if the unvaccinated are denied a hospital bed when they get deathly sick with covid? I mean, they refuse to get treated with the vaccine so why should they expect treatment and a hospital bed when they are deathly ill?

Fentanyl is now the leading cause of death for 18-45 year olds. Now parrot some nonsense about risk priorities with the border wide open. Omicron is the threat because of nonvaxxed indeed!

 

[RocknRollface]

Fentanyl is now the leading cause of death for 18-45 year olds. Now parrot some nonsense about risk priorities with the border wide open. Omicron is the threat because of nonvaxxed indeed!

Those deaths don't matter though because they don't get talked about on TV.

We are only allowed to think about what the TV says.

We need to be terrified of a glorified cold and oblivious to our lack of a border.

 

[Fighter of the Nightman]

There will come a time as long as you’re vaccinated you can play - even with a positive test.

That time should be now, provided that area’s hospitals aren’t above a certain capacity threshold. Let the unvaccinated fend for themselves. The statistical odds of a vaccinated individual getting seriously ill from reinfection are absurdly low, and we should carry on as such.

 

[KcTo]

That time should be now, provided that area’s hospitals aren’t above a certain capacity threshold. Let the unvaccinated fend for themselves. The statistical odds of a vaccinated individual getting seriously ill from reinfection are absurdly low, and we should carry on as such.

the sad thing, the immoral thing, is that unvaccinated are not allowed to fend for themselves.

MDs are not allowed to practice medicine with the unvaccinated population.

FACTS
government Agencies will not allow Pharmacy to despense certain therapeutics
government Agencies pull the Medical License from MD that prescribe FDA approved therapeutics for CoVid 19 patients.
government is prohibiting FDA approved therapeutics to be given,
government is now mandating non-FDA approved experimental techniques

i wish the un vaxxed could actually fend for themselves lIke you put forth, but that is not the case, the government is not allowing that to happen. It’s medical malpractice, and it is killing and has killed tens of thousands

 

[KcTo]

Exactly.

Everyone is going to get Omicron. Vaxed or not.

If you have a shot or if you're a normal healthy person with no underlying health conditions you have basically nothing to worry about.

Testing for it is counterproductive at this point because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory.

Politicians are either too stupid or too dishonest to admit it because they love the control they got from this.

As usual, I Agree with most but would challenge that there is nothing we can do to change the trajectory,

1. Educate the public on the value of D-3 sufficiencies. Dispense D3 to all.
2. Therapeutics. Make FDA approved therapeutics available to all, discontinue the prohibition of prescribing these.

these 2 alone will work,
(I am living proof)

 

[RocknRollface]

As usual, I Agree with most but would challenge that there is nothing we can do to change the trajectory,

1. Educate the public on the value of D-3 sufficiencies. Dispense D3 to all.
2. Therapeutics. Make FDA approved therapeutics available to all, discontinue the prohibition of prescribing these.

these 2 alone will work,
(I am living proof)

I completely agree with those ideas.

I don't think that changes the amount of people that eventually get Omicron though.

It's too contagious. But those things lower the already miniscule chances of serious side effects.

 

[KcTo]

I completely agree with those ideas.

I don't think that changes the amount of people that eventually get Omicron though.

It's too contagious. But those things lower the already miniscule chances of serious side effects.

Agree that everyone is going to get Omicron
Agree that there are minuscule serious down stream effects.
will add an amendment to our comment:

affects of Omicron on the un vaxxed, those vaxxed and un vaxxed with co-morbidity, those vaxxed with advanced age, those with deficient immune systems are still unknown.

most of the hospitalizations in South Africa are from other indications and are WITH Omicron, not FROM Omicron.

ive got to go to UK, Israeli, or SoAfricans sites that have treating MDs, PhD virologists or Medical Directors to get real time real updates.

 

[Ronman]

At the rate games are getting axed left and right, me thinks everyone is gonna go on a long hiatus or March madness is getting pushed into April. Won’t get cancelled because there’s too much money but the season is gonna be a bumpy ride.

People were saying the same thing a couple of years ago.

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[Franisdaman]

Typical liberal, you don’t even have the facts correct. Why are all these teams vaccinated but still getting Covid? 87% of all new hospitalizations are people who are already vaccinated. How can this be? Please enlighten me you ignorant sheep!

Please provide a credible link to your claim that 87% of all new hospitalizations are people who are already vaccinated.

And you are calling others ignorant sheep?

Good grief.

 

[Franisdaman]

Exactly.

Everyone is going to get Omicron. Vaxed or not.

If you have a shot or if you're a normal healthy person with no underlying health conditions you have basically nothing to worry about.

Testing for it is counterproductive at this point because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory.

Politicians are either too stupid or too dishonest to admit it because they love the control they got from this.

Nothing to worry about, huh? Tell that to health care workers on the front line. As you will see below, Minnesota hospitals are swamped with covid patients.

Only 18 ICU beds (of the 1,012) are left in the entire state of MN.


The following info comes from yesterday's Minneapolis Star Tribune, a credible news source:

While studies globally suggest the vaccine is slightly less effective at preventing omicron infections, it still appears to reduce the risk of severe illness, hospitalization and death.

While COVID hospitalizations dropped in one week in Minnesota from 1,678 to 1,554 on Thursday, the latest count included 374 patients needing intensive care because of breathing problems or complications from infections. That brought the state closer to its one-day record in November 2020 — before vaccines were available — of 399 COVID patients in ICU beds.

Health officials warned that Minnesota hospitals are swamped and that any uptick in viral transmissions and patients could overwhelm them. COVID and non-COVID patients took up all but 18 of 1,012 available adult ICU beds on Thursday.

Friday's report of 54 more deaths included someone 25 to 29 years old from Ramsey County and three Minnesotans in the 30-39 age range.

Minnesota's COVID-19 rate falls as delta wave surges in the Northeast

Health officials caution against overconfidence in a holiday period that could fuel more infections.

www.startribune.com

 

[Franisdaman]

Your opinion doesn’t dictate or govern others. And what others choose to do is none of your damn business.
Our "leading" Dr's have lied repeatedly and have been very obvious about it. Politicians still yap in front of millions on TV everyday trying to freak people out more which does nothing to help the situation.
They have not promoted antibody testing because it would likely show that 90+% of people have been vaxed or had some forms of the virus and it would further confirm it is endemic and we need to settle down and deal with it like the other viruses we deal with all the time.
If you are too stupid to see that after 2 yrs of living proof in front of you then the unvaxed are not the only ones too stupid to help themselves.
Hysteria has always been a great strategy to solve a problem.
This didn't NEED to become political but the leadership NEEDED it to be for their benefit and they continue to stoke the fire of fear just like yourself.

Wow. What a bunch of nonsense.

 

[Franisdaman]

Fentanyl is now the leading cause of death for 18-45 year olds. Now parrot some nonsense about risk priorities with the border wide open. Omicron is the threat because of nonvaxxed indeed!

Link to your claim?

Instead of typing up a bunch of nonsense that shows your complete ignorance on the topic, you should instead educate yourself by going to to some credible news sources and learn why we should all get vaccinated.

 

[Franisdaman]

Those deaths don't matter though because they don't get talked about on TV.

We are only allowed to think about what the TV says.

We need to be terrified of a glorified cold and oblivious to our lack of a border.

Covid is a glorified cold? Wow.

And there are plenty of people around the country who have actually read up on this issue and have educated themselves. You should do the same and stop being glued to the TV and a particular news station.

 

[FWIW4922463]

This is not the same covid from last year and its not anywhere close to the same danger which wasn't that great to begin with.

Hey, genius, tell that to the 800,000+ Americans and millions around the world who have died due to COVID.

And here's the thing: if the vast majority of people had done the right thing from the beginning--masks, social distance, and vax ASAP--the variants may not have had time to develop at all, and original COVID would have been largely defeated by the vaccines that are tremendously effective. Can you understand that?

But that didn't happen because we had a guy in the White House who kept the deadly disease a secret, then said it would magically go away, then that you should shine a bright light down your throat to kill it, even though he said it didn't exist. Had the GOP cult not acted so recklessly and ignorantly, and if its members didn't continue to do so, things would be one helluva lot better than they are. And that, genius, is a fact.

So why don't you go stand in the middle of I-80. You might not get hit by a fast-moving vehicle. Not taking the free and simple precautions against COVID and its variants is just as foolish.

But it's also a fact that you cannot reason with the unreasonable. You cannot use logic with the illogical. And you cannot change the minds of the brainwashed. And so here we are . . .

 

[RocknRollface]

Covid is a glorified cold? Wow.

And there are plenty of people around the country who have actually read up on this issue and have educated themselves. You should do the same and stop being glued to the TV and a particular news station.

If you'd actually read up on omicron instead of being glued to the TV you'd know I am correct.

People are not dying from omicron.

 

[StormHawk42]

People were saying the same thing a couple of years ago.

Which is why they won’t cancel stuff a second time. Even if they played the tourney in May, they’d get it in. NCAA isn’t going to take another billion dollar loss.

 

[Franisdaman]

If you'd actually read up on omicron instead of being glued to the TV you'd know I am correct.

People are not dying from omicron.

I am very well read on covid and the 2 covid variants. It's pretty obvious that you are not; it's also very clear what "news station" you are glued to.

You conveniently have forgotten about the original version of covid and the delta variant and the over 800,000 who have died from covid complications.

You also ignore the fact that hospitals are still being overwhelmed by covid patients.

You also ignore the fact that most of the people hospitalized with covid are unvaccinated.

And you called Covid (and the 2 variants so far that we know about) a glorified cold.

A glorified cold.

Incredible.

 

[Franisdaman]

NCAA isn’t going to take another billion dollar loss.

the NFL owners aren't either. they are going to get every game in and sell every ticket that they can. As a result, right now, we have NFL game(s) 7 of the next 9 days (today, tomorrow, Monday, Tues, Thur, Sat and Sun).

Some players are not happy about having their game moved from tomorrow to Tuesday but the games will be played.

 

[KcTo]

I am very well read on covid and the 2 covid variants. It's pretty obvious that you are not; it's also very clear what "news station" you are glued to.

You conveniently have forgotten about the original version of covid and the delta variant and the over 800,000 who have died from covid complications.

You also ignore the fact that hospitals are still being overwhelmed by covid patients.

You also ignore the fact that most of the people hospitalized with covid are unvaccinated.

And you called Covid (and the 2 variants so far that we know about) a glorified cold.

A glorified cold.

Incredible.

my timeline: Wed 12-15 to 12-18

Wed. Sniffle
Th. Head ache, fatigue, sneezing, upper bronchial persistent cough
FRI. Add body aches, productive phlegm producing cough, fatigue worsens,
FRI 6pm CoVid test 7Pm Positive result.
FRI 7pm started 200mg HydroxyChloroquine plus Z Pac
Sat 7am, nearly all symptoms gone, only low grade head ache and body ache (but I’m old do that happens every day )
Sat 5pm 7 miles hike in cold winding condition, upper respiratory effects gone, no cough, no phlegm.
Sat at 7pm will be 24 hours since intervention
Sat at 8pm game time with favorite craft brews and pop corn.

Real world conclusion: early intervention with FDA approved anti viral therapeutics stop CoVid 19 before it can develop into deadly inflammatory disease, in patient in good health but in high risk age group.

timetable: remarkable reduction in symptoms in less then 12 hours.

question:
why do the US agencies prohibit use if these remarkable therapies?
why does current NIH protocol require MDS to send patients like me home , with Tylenol, and tell them to come back to the hospital when they can’t breathe?

95% of these deaths are preventable with early treatment, like with me.

tragic that these life saving measures have been censored for political and profiteering reasons…

Im real word example….

 

[BBHawk]

if we got to 100% vaccinated it wouldn't end. 44% of COVID deaths for the most recent week available in Minnesota were vaccinated. They are north of 70% of Minnesotans fully vaccinated.

I got vaccinated, so I am neither pro or anti-vax. Made the decision that made sense for my age and health. But it is a myth that 100% vaccinated would end COVID hospitalizations or deaths.

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This is false.

 

[KcTo]

Saturday's showdown between UCLA and North Carolina in Las Vegas has been canceled because of COVID-19 issues within the Bruins' men's basketball program, it was announced Friday.

With Ohio State dropping out of the CBS Sports Classic earlier this week and leaving Kentucky without an opponent, the Tar Heels and Wildcats will now face each other on Saturday at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas (5:30 p.m. ET).

UCLA on COVID pause; UNC to play Kentucky

With UCLA and Ohio State having dropped out of the CBS Sports Classic in Las Vegas because of COVID-19 issues within the programs, North Carolina and Kentucky will now play each other at T-Mobile Arena on Saturday, sources confirmed to ESPN.

www.espn.com

One way to look at this is “Let’s do,all,the things that did not work last time again…”
or we,could do what the rest of world has done

a meta analysis here shows 32 of 33 studies using HydroxyChloroquine REDUCED negative outcomes (death, hospitalization as end points) by an average of 64%,

why oh why do we prevent this from being done?
one estimate is that 500,000 Americans lives could have been saved…….

like mine was

https://hcqmeta.com/hcq-meta.pdf

 

[83Hawk]

i am not sure if it ever ends, to be quite honest.

Covid is never going away.

Just play the games and get on with life.

 

[83Hawk]

Exactly.

Everyone is going to get Omicron. Vaxed or not.

If you have a shot or if you're a normal healthy person with no underlying health conditions you have basically nothing to worry about.

Testing for it is counterproductive at this point because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory.

Politicians are either too stupid or too dishonest to admit it because they love the control they got from this.

Exactly. It’s all about control. Covid has been a boon to the powers-that-be. More power for them. And many Americans are happy to give them more control over their lives.

And before one of you leftist loons jumps in to call me an anti-vax magat…….I am vaxxed and have never voted for Trump. I also had Covid last month.

 

[Arbor1]

Exactly. It’s all about control. Covid has been a boon to the powers-that-be. More power for them. And many Americans are happy to give them more control over their lives.

And before one of you leftist loons jumps in to call me an anti-vax magat…….I am vaxxed and have never voted for Trump. I also had Covid last month.

Well, they did save us from Russian Collusion. Right? Torched the judicial and intelligence communities in the process but that was a small price to pay. ADE will/is the story unfolding before our eyes now that their vax desperation attempts to hide now.

 

[kceasthawk]

The vaccines are not "failing." They don't prevent people from getting COVID but they do significantly reduce the risk if you DO get it. This is a critically important difference for millions of Americans, especially older folks. Vaccinated people are far less likely to require hospitalization--the evidence for that is clear. By far the greatest number of people dying from COVID right now have not been vaccinated--that, too, is undeniable.

As for Minnesota, it is true there have been breakthrough cases and deaths but the state Department of Health notes there are multiple points to consider when reviewing vaccine breakthrough data:

• As more people become vaccinated it is natural to see more cases of vaccine breakthrough (no vaccine is 100% effective). However, vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease, hospitalization, and death.
• Vaccinated people should still take steps to protect themselves and others in certain settings such as indoor public settings and crowded outdoor areas.
• We may be seeing more vaccine breakthrough cases for many reasons including:
  • Waning immunity among people vaccinated earliest. These people are also more likely to be older, have comorbidities, or work in a setting that puts them at higher risk for COVID-19.
  • The more-transmissible Delta variant may be playing a role that we don’t fully understand yet.
  • People are returning to various states of normalcy – this will result in varying levels of disease transmission and test seeking behaviors.
• Vaccination records may be incomplete as a result of reporting errors and delays or problems matching vaccination information with case data. In addition, some entities, including federal organizations, don’t report vaccination information to the state.
• Breakthrough infection is not the same thing as breakthrough disease. Breakthrough infections occur any time a fully vaccinated person tests positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus, regardless of whether they feel sick. This data report is on breakthrough infections, not breakthrough disease.
• Vaccine breakthrough is not a measure of efficacy. There are several studies on vaccine effectiveness:  CDC: COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Research.

Thanks for a more reasoned response then many.....

 

[Quintana]

by this point everyone knows the risks. i don't understand (actually, i do) why some people are so uptight and condescending towards people wishing to not get vaccinated. so what if they don't? they know the risks and the probabilities, probably better than those who blindly got the vaccine. if they come into contact with you or anyone else with the vaccine then you should be protected from the worst of the possible outcomes. the vaccine won't keep you from contracting the virus, so what difference does it make if you get an infection from a vaccinated person or an unvaccinated person? both groups are getting the virus and both are passing it on. if you're vaccinated you should be protected from severe symptons regardless, so why all the hand wringing and panty bunching over some who choose not to get the shot?

 

[Kabby]

the sad thing, the immoral thing, is that unvaccinated are not allowed to fend for themselves.

MDs are not allowed to practice medicine with the unvaccinated population.

FACTS
government Agencies will not allow Pharmacy to despense certain therapeutics
government Agencies pull the Medical License from MD that prescribe FDA approved therapeutics for CoVid 19 patients.
government is prohibiting FDA approved therapeutics to be given,
government is now mandating non-FDA approved experimental techniques

i wish the un vaxxed could actually fend for themselves lIke you put forth, but that is not the case, the government is not allowing that to happen. It’s medical malpractice, and it is killing and has killed tens of thousands

yep. These people will all show up at the hospital saying save me

 

[KcTo]

yep. These people will all show up at the hospital saying save me

Inventor of mRNA vaccine indicates that 500,000 Americans may have died needlessly,
owing to mismanagment of CoVid treatment guidelines

https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/dr-robert-malone-500000-american-covid-patients-didnt-die/

 

[KcTo]

by this point everyone knows the risks. i don't understand (actually, i do) why some people are so uptight and condescending towards people wishing to not get vaccinated. so what if they don't? they know the risks and the probabilities, probably better than those who blindly got the vaccine. if they come into contact with you or anyone else with the vaccine then you should be protected from the worst of the possible outcomes. the vaccine won't keep you from contracting the virus, so what difference does it make if you get an infection from a vaccinated person or an unvaccinated person? both groups are getting the virus and both are passing it on. if you're vaccinated you should be protected from severe symptons regardless, so why all the hand wringing and panty bunching over some who choose not to get the shot?

Blaming the unvaxxed is a proxy for blaming their political opposition and their leadership…