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Trump’s new Sec of Treasury 3-3-3 plan

I pay way way way more attention to how the Democrats do politics than what you've shown via what I've read of your posts in this thread and on this board. And I am way way way more informed and intelligent than you are.

And to help you with placing yourself around here per informed/intelligent, I'm pretty far away from being the most informed/intelligent poster on this board.
Since you pointed out how smart you are I figured I would help you keep that persona in check.

“Their pretty much complete silence as Trump over and over names cranks and cronies and crooks”. You used their wrong, should be “they’re”
 
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Reminds me of the old banking plan. They called it 3-6-3 banking.

Pay 3% on deposits, loan money out at 6% and play golf at 3.
 
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I pay way way way more attention to how the Democrats do politics than what you've shown via what I've read of your posts in this thread and on this board. And I am way way way more informed and intelligent than you are.

And to help you with placing yourself around here per informed/intelligent, I'm pretty far away from being the most informed/intelligent poster on this board.
Cosigned. You
 
Oh I know, that’s why I added “I hope his administration learned”

From Bessent the tax cuts will be offset by cut in government spending 🤷🏽‍♂️
Most of the administration is new. Not many holdovers from first 3 years. Several of his cabinet members are light on experience. And experience is the best teacher. Facts are most of your time is spent managing Trump and his whims. Trump is more focused on spin than the overall big picture of governing.
It will be the same as last time going from one self created drama to the next.
 
Since you pointed out how smart you are I figured I would help you keep that persona in check.

“Their pretty much complete silence as Trump over and over names cranks and cronies and crooks”. You used their wrong, should be “they’re”
Wrong again. "They're" is a contraction of "they" and "are". Would be an incorrect usage here. "Their" is a possessive pronoun which is why I chose it.

I could be wrong and used "their" incorrectly, however "you're" for sures wrong.

Again--I'm not claiming to be anything close to the most intelligent person on this board, but I know what/where you are.
 
Wrong again. "They're" is a contraction of "they" and "are". Would be an incorrect usage here. "Their" is a possessive pronoun which is why I chose it.

I could be wrong and used "their" incorrectly, however "you're" for sures wrong.

Again--I'm not claiming to be anything close to the most intelligent person on this board, but I know what/where you are.
“I could be wrong”

You are
 
Funny how he now views 3% as a lofty goal. Biden was getting this much. Once again Americans stupidly allow themselves to get grifted out of what they already have.

Biden was getting a 3% growth rate, with 10% inflation and a $2 trillion deficit.
 
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“I could be wrong”

You are
Dude, you're proving my overall point about you here. You obviously have no clue as to the actual correct usage of the contraction "they're" but you're supremely confident that you do.
 
Dude, you're proving my overall point about you here. You obviously have no clue as to the actual correct usage of the contraction "they're" but you're supremely confident that you do.
this is america GIF
 
Dude, you're proving my overall point about you here. You obviously have no clue as to the actual correct usage of the contraction "they're" but you're supremely confident that you do.
No, you were completely wrong in the their usage and I just confirmed your statement.
 
No, you were completely wrong in the their usage and I just confirmed your statement.
But back to your original premise on the not working with the Republicans and messaging. I believe you are wrong and doubling down on your strategy is not smart. Like way way way dumb
 
On the face of it, reducing the deficit isn't enough on the spending side. The budget needs to be balanced, and future spending needs to be capped at 18% of GDP until we pay down the debt to a level where debt service is no more than 10% of the budget. Military spending should be the first cut.

For those buying into the flawed notion there's not much that can be cut, baseline spending is over $3T more than it was just 8 years ago. I wonder how we managed to get by back in 2016 without that spending....
 
But back to your original premise on the not working with the Republicans and messaging. I believe you are wrong and doubling down on your strategy is not smart. Like way way way dumb
How would the Democrats be doubling down on some 'strategy' by not working with the Republicans? What the hell are you even talking about?

The Democrats when in or out of power are ALWAYS trying to cut deals with the Republicans, ALWAYS.

I firmly believe they should not be making deals or trying to help/normalize/legitimize a party that has turned into an authoritarian/fascist cult. The Democrats should not want any perception of linkage per voters with this trash heap of a Presidency when the voters go to the polls in 26 and 28.
 
The absolute dumbest thing the Democrats could do is work with Trump on anything. So they will probably try to do it. They appear to be hopeless. Their pretty much complete silence as Trump over and over names cranks and cronies and crooks and sex pests to his administration has been pathetic.

The Democrats need to oppose this administration strongly and loudly from day 1 (it's what the Republicans do as a matter of course when the Democrats are in charge). The Democratic path back to power is to point out and oppose the fascistic authoritarian nature of the Trump/Maga movement, and the over-the-top corruption, incompetence, lawlessness and meanness that comes along with it.

Normalization of this anti-American BS by "working" with Trump is bad, horrible politics and bad, horrible for them and the country.
My guess is they’re waiting until he’s in office. Takes away the “He’s not even in office yet and the Democrats are determined to take him down!” nonsense.

If they aren’t fighting come January it will be disappointing.
 
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How would the Democrats be doubling down on some 'strategy' by not working with the Republicans? What the hell are you even talking about?

The Democrats when in or out of power are ALWAYS trying to cut deals with the Republicans, ALWAYS.

I firmly believe they should not be making deals or trying to help/normalize/legitimize a party that has turned into an authoritarian/fascist cult. The Democrats should not want any perception of linkage per voters with this trash heap of a Presidency when the voters go to the polls in 26 and 28.
“making deals or trying to help/normalize/legitimize a party that has turned into an authoritarian/fascist cult.”

^^^This strategy of calling half of America an authoritarian/fascist cult. You are doubling down on this type of messaging and language that a lot of Americans do not agree with and are turned off by it. There has been so much talk since the election on this and the phrasing and calling other humans this but it falls on deaf ears from people like you and chis. But go ahead and double down on this strategy you keep pushing.
 
How would the Democrats be doubling down on some 'strategy' by not working with the Republicans? What the hell are you even talking about?

The Democrats when in or out of power are ALWAYS trying to cut deals with the Republicans, ALWAYS.

I firmly believe they should not be making deals or trying to help/normalize/legitimize a party that has turned into an authoritarian/fascist cult. The Democrats should not want any perception of linkage per voters with this trash heap of a Presidency when the voters go to the polls in 26 and 28.
Dems don't always try to cut deals. You don't have to go back any further than 2009 - 2010.
 
My guess is they’re waiting until he’s in office. Takes away the “He’s not even in office yet and the Democrats are determined to take him down!” nonsense.

If they aren’t fighting come January it will be disappointing.
They will definitely be fighting come January. You can already see the groundwork of what will be the counter points on immigration, the economy, tariffs, etc… Now how Americans portray the messaging is another story.

The Dems need new Leadership to pop up and take control of that party imo. They have some good people that can make a difference. They seem to be banking on Hakeem Jefferies to take charge.
 
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There will be lots of pressure from the GOP to not touch Social Security and Medicare because that's a death knell in future elections.

I suspect Trump doesn't get much done, just like first term.
 
There will be lots of pressure from the GOP to not touch Social Security and Medicare because that's a death knell in future elections.

I suspect Trump doesn't get much done, just like first term.
I’m curious on how they will use the reconciliation process. See what kind of goodies they add from the campaign and for their buddies.
 
Looks like entitlements are on the table but not defense spending. Will be interesting on how DOGE comes into play with this policy

DOGE will address DOD, they must. DOD is the biggest elephant in the room with the most fat to cut. If it were up to Elon they would end the F35 and invest in low cost defense and attack drones. Boom, there’s $100B.

 
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On the face of it, reducing the deficit isn't enough on the spending side. The budget needs to be balanced, and future spending needs to be capped at 18% of GDP until we pay down the debt to a level where debt service is no more than 10% of the budget. Military spending should be the first cut.

For those buying into the flawed notion there's not much that can be cut, baseline spending is over $3T more than it was just 8 years ago. I wonder how we managed to get by back in 2016 without that spending....
This is partly why I’d like to start this process with a full top to bottom audit - ID where there’s waste ; such as projects over budget, pilfering, etc.

Return to the pay as you go rules from the ‘90s.
Freeze new tax cuts until the deficit/debt reaches the benchmarks you laid out.
 
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DOGE will address DOD, they must. DOD is the biggest elephant in the room with the most fat to cut. If it were up to Elon they would end the F35 and invest in low cost defense and attack drones. Boom, there’s $100B.
I’ll believe that when I see it - not disagreeing with you; but you know even republicans are going to fight cuts to the DoD.
 
I understand what happened but also take into acct what was happening at the time that blew up the spending. I would hope his administration learned from it and they do a better job but time will tell.

I’m an internal optimist Huey. Even if I don’t like the guy at the helm I always hope for the best and Judge them by their results after things are implemented.
To be accurate, it was his massive tax cuts right off the bat that created the debt he's responsible for. And his first order of business will be more cuts for himself and his buddies. He doesn't give a single shit about the deficit.
 
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Bessent discussed the 3-3-3 plan this summer at an event hosted by the Manhattan Institute. He said it would involve cutting the budget deficit to 3% of gross domestic product (GDP) by 2028, the last year of Trump's second term; boosting GDP growth to 3% through deregulation and other pro-growth policies; and increasing U.S. energy production to the equivalent of an additional 3 million barrels of oil per day.

His 3-3-3 plan was inspired by the late Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who adopted a "three arrows" plan that featured aggressive monetary policy along with fiscal stimulus and structural reforms aimed at lifting Japan's economy from stagnation and persistent deflation.”

Thoughts?
This is going to be fun to watch fail massively.
 
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