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Trump and Carson ask for Secret Service protection

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Thoughts? It seems early without a lot of verified threats. Trump probably wants it for legitimacy as he travels with a band of goons wherever he goes for protection.
 
They could jump on Carson and silence him whenever he opened his mouth to speak. Might be worth the expense.
 
Looks like Carson's days of being a badass started and ended in KFC. So much for him being able to take out killers all be himself.

It was Popeye's, not KFC.

And if someone wants to take him out, he can't point to someone else behind the counter.

He COULD say, "Everybody rush him, he can't kill ALL of us!"

But since the assassin only wants Carson dead, that's probably not a good strategy.
 
It was Popeye's, not KFC.

And if someone wants to take him out, he can't point to someone else behind the counter.

He COULD say, "Everybody rush him, he can't kill ALL of us!"

But since the assassin only wants Carson dead, that's probably not a good strategy.
I'm taking a lot of pleasure in the Popeyes part. As though Ben making up restaurants he was supposedly held up at really makes a difference.
 
Thoughts? It seems early without a lot of verified threats. Trump probably wants it for legitimacy as he travels with a band of goons wherever he goes for protection.
Well at least you won't hear them bitching about people having guns, while being surrounded by guns that protect them.
 
I'm taking a lot of pleasure in the Popeyes part. As though Ben making up restaurants he was supposedly held up at really makes a difference.
You just really hate black people don't you? It's pretty easy to see where you're going with all of this.
 
You just really hate black people don't you? It's pretty easy to see where you're going with all of this.
That Ben is a liar and even black people think he's a joke? Well you got me there. I like that he said he went in there for fries after someone pointed out that he's a vegetarian.
 
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Ah, hell... my COO claims he's a vegetarian and yet he'll pound a couple of chicken wings when he thinks no one is looking....

He's a "non-smoker" too.....
 
I'm not getting this point, can you help?


If they're getting Secret Service protection, the worry of being shot comes from the left, not the right.

When Barack got SS protection, the left was worried about all the right-wing violence against a Democratic candidate. Same holds true for this argument.

Would you not agree?
 
I'm not against the idea, but shouldn't the guy who claims he is so rich he can't be bought, can do whatever he wants, etc., be thinking he can hire better security than that offered by the government?
 
If they're getting Secret Service protection, the worry of being shot comes from the left, not the right.

When Barack got SS protection, the left was worried about all the right-wing violence against a Democratic candidate. Same holds true for this argument.

Would you not agree?
I wouldn't assume the left would take out Trump or Carson. The left might jump in front of a shooter to save those two, they are a gift to the left. Bush or the establishment GOP is the far more likely shooter IMO.
 
I wouldn't assume the left would take out Trump or Carson. The left might jump in front of a shooter to save those two, they are a gift to the left. Bush or the establishment GOP is the far more likely shooter IMO.


Oh, COME ON!!! You can't be serious….seriously.

Squeaky Frome was a Manson lefty that tried to kill Reagan. When was the last time a person from the same party tried to kill the president?
 
I'm not against the idea, but shouldn't the guy who claims he is so rich he can't be bought, can do whatever he wants, etc., be thinking he can hire better security than that offered by the government?


The SS is the best at what it does. Plus if you're a front-running candidate, I believe they "qualify" for protection. Hillary should be afforded the same protection and she's a multi-millionaire.
 
In Trump's case, with his current pissing match going on with Jeb, I think he's worried Jeb's superpac might have a couple of enforcers that will be looking to "bust up some knees".

Still love me this GOP primary season. Something bizarre every day.

What I want Vegas odds on is... will Trump declare he's really a Democrat BEFORE or AFTER the Republican convention?

Jeb's continuing problem is his last name. I believe a majority of American voters still think his brother went into Iraq without justified reasons.

So ruling out the unelectable GOP...Trump/Carson/Carly/Jeb... the winner by default will be... drum roll...Marco Polo... I mean Marco Rubio

See how much fun the next 8-10 months will be?.
 
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Oh, COME ON!!! You can't be serious….seriously.

Squeaky Frome was a Manson lefty that tried to kill Reagan. When was the last time a person from the same party tried to kill the president?
Who gains from killing either? Not the left, the left loves those clowns. Heck Trump has some policies more liberal than Sanders on trade. If they have fears it's from your team.
 
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The SS is the best at what it does. Plus if you're a front-running candidate, I believe they "qualify" for protection. Hillary should be afforded the same protection and she's a multi-millionaire.

Way to completely misread my post you baboon.

I'll break it down for you:

1. I'm not against the idea

2. but shouldn't the guy who claims he is so rich he can't be bought, can do whatever he wants, etc., be thinking he can hire better security than that offered by the government?

Now I'll re-write it so that even you can understand: Trump claims to be an "outsider", supremely rich, can buy anything/everything he wants, and doesn't need the government, they need him. Those are, basically, all HIS claims...not mine. If he believes that, it stands to reason he wouldn't then rely on government to protect himself.
 
Who gains from killing either? Not the left, the left loves those clowns. Heck Trump has some policies more liberal than Sanders on trade. If they have fears it's from your team.


The only people that would "gain" from this would be a whack job. And lately, the only whack jobs are from the left. Well, minus you, of course.

But anyone that tries to take out a presidential candidate is obviously crazy regardless of who they try to take out.
 
Way to completely misread my post you baboon.

I'll break it down for you:

1. I'm not against the idea

2. but shouldn't the guy who claims he is so rich he can't be bought, can do whatever he wants, etc., be thinking he can hire better security than that offered by the government?

Now I'll re-write it so that even you can understand: Trump claims to be an "outsider", supremely rich, can buy anything/everything he wants, and doesn't need the government, they need him. Those are, basically, all HIS claims...not mine. If he believes that, it stands to reason he wouldn't then rely on government to protect himself.
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Way to completely misread my post you baboon.

I'll break it down for you:

1. I'm not against the idea

2. but shouldn't the guy who claims he is so rich he can't be bought, can do whatever he wants, etc., be thinking he can hire better security than that offered by the government?

Now I'll re-write it so that even you can understand: Trump claims to be an "outsider", supremely rich, can buy anything/everything he wants, and doesn't need the government, they need him. Those are, basically, all HIS claims...not mine. If he believes that, it stands to reason he wouldn't then rely on government to protect himself.


OK. I'll try and break it down for YOU. I believe there is a FEDERAL law that requires SS protection for presidential front-runners. I'm unsure of the requirements, but there's probably nothing Trump can do about it since it's a federal law.
 
The only people that would "gain" from this would be a whack job. And lately, the only whack jobs are from the left. Well, minus you, of course.

But anyone that tries to take out a presidential candidate is obviously crazy regardless of who they try to take out.
How do you so easily discount the attack coming from the camp of one of the guys actually completing with them for a job? That seems blind.
 
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OK. I'll try and break it down for YOU. I believe there is a FEDERAL law that requires SS protection for presidential front-runners. I'm unsure of the requirements, but there's probably nothing Trump can do about it since it's a federal law.

Holy balls you are a simplistic child.
 
Holy balls you are a simplistic child.


Aaaaaannnnnnd……why? Federal law is federal law when it comes to protection for leading presidential candidates. Again, the requirements escape me, but if the SS is getting involved, then there has to be some sort of law that dictates when they start protecting. They just don't do it willy nilly.
 
Aaaaaannnnnnd……why? Federal law is federal law when it comes to protection for leading presidential candidates. Again, the requirements escape me, but if the SS is getting involved, then there has to be some sort of law that dictates when they start protecting. They just don't do it willy nilly.

You. Just. Never. Understand. You are so goddamn partisan no matter what you read you read it as attack.

The OP says they asked for it. No post in here discussed it as a requirement, certainly none of yours did. The discussion was over the OP: Thoughts? It seems early without a lot of verified threats. Trump probably wants it for legitimacy as he travels with a band of goons wherever he goes for protection.

You know, thoughts.
 
Aaaaaannnnnnd……why? Federal law is federal law when it comes to protection for leading presidential candidates. Again, the requirements escape me, but if the SS is getting involved, then there has to be some sort of law that dictates when they start protecting. They just don't do it willy nilly.

It escapes you because there is no federal law
 
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The only people that would "gain" from this would be a whack job. And lately, the only whack jobs are from the left. Well, minus you, of course.

But anyone that tries to take out a presidential candidate is obviously crazy regardless of who they try to take out.
Like Squeeky Frohm?
 
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I wouldn't assume the left would take out Trump or Carson. The left might jump in front of a shooter to save those two, they are a gift to the left. Bush or the establishment GOP is the far more likely shooter IMO.
Trump and Carson would be the two current high profile candidates that would guarantee a Hillary Clinton presidency.
 
I mentioned Trump's goons because Trump is notoriously fervent about his personal space. He likes his personal security team, and I wonder if he'd chafe at Secret Service rules? Would he want his personal team to be point, and Secret Service support them?
Would the taxpayers pay for Trump's protection even though a lot of what he is still doing is personal business with the Trump empire, and it's almost impossible to draw a line between Trump the candidate and Trump the businessman.
 
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Thoughts? It seems early without a lot of verified threats. Trump probably wants it for legitimacy as he travels with a band of goons wherever he goes for protection.

I believe Obama got secret service protection at about this time.

I saw in the news this morning Carson was saying that the secret service contacted him about getting a detail on the basis that they had received threats.

I don't think it's a good idea to judge what candidates and the secret service do to protect them.

If for some reason a major candidate gets injured or killed in an assassination attempt then everyone will be asking why they didn't have a detail. And things things have happened during primary campaigns. Bobby Kennedy and George Wallace for example.

Not worth risking it.
 
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