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Trump is now leading in all 7 swing states.

Proof is in the pudding. Open border, foreign wars, crime and inflation, but Trump.
Crime and inflation are down, the border isn't open, and I don't know what the USA has to do with other countries' diplomacy.

Trump will try and do worse. Doing worse is all he knows.

I know it's hard to convince old people, but you gotta realize.
 
Crime and inflation are down, the border isn't open, and I don't know what the USA has to do with other countries' diplomacy.

Trump will try and do worse. Doing worse is all he knows.

I know it's hard to convince old people, but you gotta realize.
trump supporters want the president to be their super hero father that fixes everything and can beat up everyone
 
trump supporters want the president to be their super hero father that fixes everything and can beat up everyone

What? Inflation is at an all time high, unemployment is through the roof, the stock market is crashing, and Americans have pretty much given up on life. Trump will lower the price of goods and services on day 1 and will fix our unemployment and inflation rate. The stock market will recover and reach record highs. The world will enter a new era of peace. Make us great again!!
 
The past few days I've been mulling a thought exercise for everyone. Complete the following two sentences:

1. If Harris wins, I'll....
2. If Trump wins, I'll...

In each case, my principle responses are "say congratulations," "be indifferent," and "count on our governmental structures to keep things moving slowly".

In the Harris case, my principal supplemental is "hope that nutjobs don't try to make any stupid show of force, but if they do, they get put down as if they were hamas in gaza."

In the Trump case, my principal supplemental is "have a brief chuckle watching youtube videos of people decompensating".
 
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If I search hard enough, I bet I can find a poll that shows Biden is winning 😁

Polls a next to worthless, unless you enjoy confirmation bias from your preferred Twitter handles
 
If I search hard enough, I bet I can find a poll that shows Biden is winning 😁

Polls a next to worthless, unless you enjoy confirmation bias from your preferred Twitter handles
I don't think they're worthless, but what the do show...this time around...is simply that this is a tossup, notwithstanding the infinitesimally small and wobbly moves people are getting worked up over the last week or so.
 
All the headlines on drudge say Harris is likely to win.

This election is a great example of “news” being worthless. It’s damn near impossible to take anything at face value.

You have to do a deep dive to figure even the simplest question be aside of the truck loads of B.S. out there spamming up the internet.
yeah those were sort of curious; so i took a peek and like the ones saying trump is going to win on RCP, seemed to just be more examples of the opinions/assholes phenomenon.
 
No,.. but given another four years they will likely achieve their goal.

Are things better or worse than 2020?

We all remember 2020 as an amazing year before everything went downhill. Right?


Unemployment has skyrocketed since 2020 (make us great again!):


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Stock market spiraling out of control:
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Inflation keeps getting steadily worse (SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE INFLATION!!):

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I don't think they're worthless, but what the do show...this time around...is simply that this is a tossup, notwithstanding the infinitesimally small and wobbly moves people are getting worked up over the last week or so.
i think any one poll is not really worth paying attention to...but in aggregate, polling can be pretty informative (or at least interesting to people who crave political content)

most of the aggregating sites and models seem to show kamala with the slightest of leads...the polling as a whole, frankly, doesn't look particularly great for either candidate
 
i think any one poll is not really worth paying attention to...but in aggregate, polling can be pretty informative (or at least interesting to people who crave political content)

most of the aggregating sites and models seem to show kamala with the slightest of leads...the polling as a whole, frankly, doesn't look particularly great for either candidate
I am at the point where (i) I am completely ignoring national polls and favorability polls; (ii) I am focusing solely on swing state polls (and a few senate races); and (iii) within the swing state polls, (A) I'm taking a Silver-esque approach of mentally assuming adjustments for anything from Rasmussen, Fabrizione, "American Greatness," PPP, and NYT and (B) I'm further ignoring or dismissing anything with a wide survey period or based on RVs rather than LVs.
 
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Worse,.. no charts required.

Feelings over data/reality. Reminds me of the end of the Clinton and Obama administrations. Republicans acting like the nation is on the verge of destruction and only they can save us. Given their track record, it's puzzling where they get this confidence.
 
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Such a tired line.

I get not liking her policitic and maybe not liking her. But, she's educated, been a prosecutor and in politics for awhile.

Your preferred candidate was a C list reality tv guy who bankrupted a casino (and many other business attempts), a sexual abuser and 34 time felon who doesn't pay his debts. A guy who's own staff and generals said he was horrible.

She's clearly better than him and yet he's your preferred candidate. That's weird.
It’s just not ANYBODY that can bankrupt a casino! That takes a special breed of cat! A real entrepreneur! A stable genius!
 
Such a tired line.

I get not liking her policitic and maybe not liking her. But, she's educated, been a prosecutor and in politics for awhile.

Your preferred candidate was a C list reality tv guy who bankrupted a casino (and many other business attempts), a sexual abuser and 34 time felon who doesn't pay his debts. A guy who's own staff and generals said he was horrible.

She's clearly better than him and yet he's your preferred candidate. That's weird.
Educated does not equal competent. She has been given a lot of what she has accomplished in her career. She can not carry herself or come up with her own ideas...if you can't see that you are not a serious person. If you needed an attorney in your life and met with her, what are the odds you would hire her after sitting with her for any length of time? They have been able to hide her until the last few weeks, and now look at what the polls, odds and momentum are saying. Her campaign is past its peak, she is on the descent....and like mountain climbers, more people die on the way down because they plan for the climb but not the descent.
 
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Educated does not equal competent. She has been given a lot of what she has accomplished in her career. She can not carry herself or come up with her own ideas...if you can't see that you are not a serious person. If you needed an attorney in your life and met with her, what are the odds you would hire her after sitting with her for any length of time. They have been able to hide her until the last few weeks, and not look at what the pools, odds and momentum are saying. Her campaign is past its peak, she is on the descent....and like mountain climbers, more people die on the way down because they plan for the climb but not the descent.
So tell us what cheeto can point out on how resume.
 
So tell us what cheeto can point out on how resume.
45th President of the United States

He can control foreign leaders one hour, be playing with grandkids the next hour, be on stage delivering jokes the next hour, be comforting and show compassion to families suffering through tragedies the next...all without a teleprompter. Is he a narcissist...likely. Does he care about people and love the USA...without a doubt. I have serious concerns about whether the Democratic party loves the USA...hence I will be voting for Trump.
 
Educated does not equal competent. She has been given a lot of what she has accomplished in her career. She can not carry herself or come up with her own ideas...if you can't see that you are not a serious person. If you needed an attorney in your life and met with her, what are the odds you would hire her after sitting with her for any length of time? They have been able to hide her until the last few weeks, and now look at what the polls, odds and momentum are saying. Her campaign is past its peak, she is on the descent....and like mountain climbers, more people die on the way down because they plan for the climb but not the descent.
Omg… even if true… so has Trump. His dad gave him what he has and everything he’s tried has failed. He’s a convicted felon, cheated on his wife with a porn Star. How can you say anything about any other candidate is beyond me. If Republicans nominated literally anyone else this would be a landslide. Instead they went with the worst candidate in history… one who lost last time.
 
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Omg… even if true… so has Trump. His dad gave him what he has and everything he’s tried has failed. He’s a convicted felon, cheated on his wife with a porn Star. How can you say anything about any other candidate is beyond me. If Republicans nominated literally anyone else this would be a landslide. Instead they went with the worst candidate in history… one who lost last time.
This is my point. The gop went from a party to a one man cult.
 
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