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Trump...just STFU...

If it is true that qualifications, standards or profile qualities were lowered to allow someone to be in a job they shouldnt have been, especially a critical one such as these, that information matters.

Standards for pilots and ATC should be the standards. Period.

I think we can all agree on that.

IF this was trying to seek a political win in a tragedy, out of no basis whatsoever, then we can all agree that is shameful.

Isnt this something we can all agree on?

I suggest we wait to see what comes out before deciding Trump should be dead or the Trump is the best leader ever.
 
The f'n president of the United States just blamed minorities for the deaths of 67 people. That IS part of "the event".
It's part of the event now, but it wasn't 14 hours ago when Chis was trying to do it.

They both suck, they both are wrong to do it, and Chis doesn't deserve an apology just because Trump did it.
 
What he said during the presser was unconscionable. What he said about disabilities was particularly egregious.

My father was a test pilot in WWII. He was a disabled veteran, and retired for disability. He went on to have a strong career in civil service for the AF, including being on the IG staff and Director of Safety for Air Weather Service.
Trump is puke
 
It's part of the event now, but it wasn't 14 hours ago when Chis was trying to do it.

They both suck, they both are wrong to do it, and Chis doesn't deserve an apology just because Trump did it.
Agree , hence why I have him on ignore. But one is a random message board weirdo. The other the POTUS that has immunity now on anything. I can ignore Chis not the other fool.
 
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If it is true that qualifications, standards or profile qualities were lowered to allow someone to be in a job they shouldnt have been, especially a critical one such as these, that information matters.

Standards for pilots and ATC should be the standards. Period.

I think we can all agree on that.

IF this was trying to seek a political win in a tragedy, out of no basis whatsoever, then we can all agree that is shameful.

Isnt this something we can all agree on?

I suggest we wait to see what comes out before deciding Trump should be dead or the Trump is the best leader ever.
Yes, but to call it out without any investigation. Is complete bull shit.
 
It's part of the event now, but it wasn't 14 hours ago when Chis was trying to do it.

They both suck, they both are wrong to do it, and Chis doesn't deserve an apology just because Trump did it.
Chis didn't force Trump to do anything...getting ahead of that sack of horse excrement is nothing to complain about.
 
Chis didn't force Trump to do anything...getting ahead of that sack of horse excrement is nothing to complain about.
Multiple people, both dems and republicans were begging him not to make it poltical.

We didn't want to discuss politics.

Everything Trump does and says is inherently political, so of course it was going to switch to politics when he made a statement.
 
Did Joe also pray for the pro-lifers his DOJ put in jail for protesting and praying outside of abortion clinics?

This one? Because if so, she wasn't arrested for praying.

In a two-count indictment announced by the Justice Department on Wednesday, Ms. Handy was charged with directing eight other people who used their bodies, furniture, chains and ropes to block the doors of an abortion clinic in Washington on Oct. 22, 2020 — an action that one of them livestreamed on Facebook.
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The police said on Thursday that five fetuses had been removed from a home in Washington that, according to an anti-abortion group, belonged to an activist who was charged by the Justice Department this week with blocking access to an abortion clinic in October 2020.
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The television station WUSA reported that it had a camera outside Ms. Handy’s home on Wednesday when homicide and forensic services detectives removed evidence in red biohazard bags and coolers from the basement. Ms. Handy declined to say what was in the coolers but said that “people would freak out when they heard,” WUSA reported.
 
I’m sure the usual suspects that jumped on Chis in the other thread will be here shortly to condemn Trump’s statements as well.
Trump is an idiot and that presser was a disaster. Does that make you and your boyfriend feel better? Sorry we hurt your feelings in that other thread.
 
Multiple people, both dems and republicans were begging him not to make it poltical.

We didn't want to discuss politics.

Everything Trump does and says is inherently political, so of course it was going to switch to politics when he made a statement.
Why downplay Trump's comments? They weren't just political, they were disgusting and harmful. It's fvcking sad how low the bar has sunk in regard to acceptable POTUS behavior.
 
Or this one? Definitely got arrested for praying...

Damian Williams, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced today that BEVELYN BEATTY WILLIAMS was sentenced to 41 months in prison for violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (the “FACE Act”) in June 2020 in connection with her interference, including by threats and force, with individuals seeking to obtain and provide lawful reproductive health services at a reproductive health center in Manhattan. On February 22, 2024, WILLIAMS was convicted after a nine-day jury trial of one count of violating the FACE Act before U.S. District Judge Jennifer L. Rochon, who imposed today’s sentence.

U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said: “Bevelyn Beatty Williams repeatedly intimidated and interfered with individuals seeking and providing critical reproductive health services. She did so by physically blocking access to clinics, threatening staff, and by force. This Office and our law enforcement partners are committed to ensuring that patients exercising their legal right to obtain reproductive health services, and healthcare facilities and their staff providing those services, can do so without unlawful interference or fear of threats or violence.”
According to evidence admitted at trial and other public filings and statements made in Court:

On June 19, 2020, and June 20, 2020, WILLIAMS threatened and used force against patients and staff members at a reproductive health center located in lower Manhattan (the “Health Center”) and blocked patients and staff members from accessing the Health Center. In one instance, and as captured on video, WILLIAMS pressed her body against the door of the Health Center’s patient entrance and refused to move, preventing a Health Center volunteer from entering the Health Center. As a Health Center staff member (“Victim-1”) attempted to open the door for the volunteer, WILLIAMS purposefully leaned against the door, crushing Victim-1’s hand. Victim-1 yelled, “She’s crushing my hand,” but WILLIAMS remained against the door, trapping Victim-1’s hand and injuring it.

At various times on June 19 and 20, 2020, WILLIAMS stood directly in front of the Health Center entrances. WILLIAMS initially blocked the main entrance used by patients, causing the Health Center to have to divert patients to enter through the staff entrance. WILLIAMS responded by moving to block the staff entrance and directing others to do the same.

WILLIAMS livestreamed some of her conduct on June 19 and 20, 2020, on a social media account. On the livestream on June 19, 2020, WILLIAMS stood within inches of the Health Center’s chief administrative officer and threatened to “terrorize this place” and warned that “we’re gonna terrorize you so good, your business is gonna be over mama.” Similarly, WILLIAMS stood within inches of a Health Center security officer and threatened “war.” WILLIAMS also stated that she would act by “any means necessary.”

In addition to WILLIAMS’s conduct in Manhattan, on multiple other occasions from at least 2019 to 2022, WILLIAMS and others intimidated and interfered with individuals seeking to obtain or provide reproductive health services at other health clinics across the country, including in Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, and Brooklyn, New York. For example, in January 2022, WILLIAMS travelled to a health center in Fort Myers, Florida, where she directed other individuals to block health center entrances. As a result of the blockade, medical staff was delayed in treating at least a dozen patients, three of whom were scheduled for time-sensitive procedures that could have resulted in bleeding, infection, or significant pain without timely treatment. In addition, in July 2022, WILLIAMS invaded a health center in Atlanta, Georgia, where she screamed through the door at patients attempting to enter the facility until they were forced to leave. Among other things, WILLIAMS shouted that she’d go to jail before letting patients enter the facility for an abortion and that she was “not afraid to get arrested.”
 
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