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Trump loses appeal in $5 million E. Jean Carroll defamation, sexual abuse case

"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape.' As the evidence at the trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that."
Do you consider grabbing a clothed crotch "rape"?


Because I'm not going to say it's appropriate but it's a far cry from what I imagine as "rape", if someone were to say someone raped someone.


As someone who lived during the "grinding" era of dancing, by that definition, ive been "raped" many times..... and I would never say I've been raped.
 
Do you consider grabbing a clothed crotch "rape"?


Because I'm not going to say it's appropriate but it's a far cry from what I imagine as "rape", if someone were to say someone raped someone.


As someone who lived during the "grinding" era of dancing, by that definition, ive been "raped" many times..... and I would never say I've been raped.
Where did you hear that nonsense, Clay and Buck?


“His fingers went into my vagina, which was extremely painful,” Ms. Carroll testified. Then, she said, he inserted his penis. She testified that she had not had sex since.

 
I KNOW there are guys on here who only have daughters and they vote against their rights every chance they get.
It's amazing that all of these deplorable wouldn't loan Trump $20 or leave him unsupervised with their daughter, but, they just didn't have a choice this election. Kamala wanted to force them to be trans, and her laugh was funny.
 
Do you consider grabbing a clothed crotch "rape"?


Because I'm not going to say it's appropriate but it's a far cry from what I imagine as "rape", if someone were to say someone raped someone.


As someone who lived during the "grinding" era of dancing, by that definition, ive been "raped" many times..... and I would never say I've been raped.

Grinding is not what rape nor is it what Trump was found guilty of doing.

If you or anyone you cared about got fingered against your/their will you would consider that rape.
 
Do you consider grabbing a clothed crotch "rape"?


Because I'm not going to say it's appropriate but it's a far cry from what I imagine as "rape", if someone were to say someone raped someone.


As someone who lived during the "grinding" era of dancing, by that definition, ive been "raped" many times..... and I would never say I've been raped.
C’mon Whiskey…she said he forcibly penetrated her with his fingers. One can argue whether or not she is credible after so many years I suppose - even if a jury found her claims valid and even if it has been held up on appeal. But let’s not change the facts about what she said happened. That is disengenuous.

I can’t remember if you have daughters…I have two no pics. If anyone pulled the shit she says Trump did…let’s just say I would probably be looking at felonies with what I would do to the scumbag. People who sexually assault women are one step above pedos in my book.
 
C’mon Whiskey…she said he forcibly penetrated her with his fingers. One can argue whether or not she is credible after so many years I suppose - even if a jury found her claims valid and even if it has been held up on appeal. But let’s not change the facts about what she said happened. That is disengenuous.

I can’t remember if you have daughters…I have two no pics. If anyone pulled the shit she says Trump did…let’s just say I would probably be looking at felonies with what I would do to the scumbag. People who sexually assault women are one step above pedos in my book.
He will probably exit the thread now…
 
C’mon Whiskey…she said he forcibly penetrated her with his fingers. One can argue whether or not she is credible after so many years I suppose - even if a jury found her claims valid and even if it has been held up on appeal. But let’s not change the facts about what she said happened. That is disengenuous.

I can’t remember if you have daughters…I have two no pics. If anyone pulled the shit she says Trump did…let’s just say I would probably be looking at felonies with what I would do to the scumbag. People who sexually assault women are one step above pedos in my book.
Above clothing.



Again, above clothing, it wasn't appropriate and yes I would hurt whoever did that to my daughter. But again, there is a far cry from a crotch grab and rape, especially from a lady who doesn't exactly know when it happened, thinks "most people think of rape as sexy" and the dress it supposedly happened in didn't even get created for 2 year post the supposed event.



So again, it's disgusting and certainly closer to "assualt" but if someone said "I got raped" you wouldn't think "i got my crotched grabbed". Again, one night in grata in Lincoln I had a lady clutching my balls as the bouncer was pulling her backwards. Not once did I think "i got raped".





This was a sham case during the height of "orange man bad" and anyone who has a lick of common sense can listen to her and realize her story is bullshit, mainly because she has NEVER told the same one twice.
 
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Above clothing.



Again, above clothing, it wasn't appropriate and yes I would hurt whoever did that to my daughter. But again, there is a far cry from a crotch grab and rape, especially from a lady who doesn't exactly know when it happened, thinks "most people think of rape as sexy" and the dress it supposedly happened in didn't even get created for 2 year post the supposed event.



So again, it's disgusting and certainly closer to "assualt" but if someone said "I got raped" you wouldn't think "i got my crotched grabbed". Again, one night in grata in Lincoln I had a lady clutching my balls as the bouncer was pulling her backwards. Not once did I think "i got raped".





This was a sham case during the height of "orange man bad" and anyone who has a lick of common sense can listen to her and realize her story is bullshit, mainly because she has NEVER told the same one twice.
How could his fingers penetrated her vagina from above her clothing?

Where did you hear that nonsense, Clay and Buck?


“His fingers went into my vagina, which was extremely painful,” Ms. Carroll testified. Then, she said, he inserted his penis. She testified that she had not had sex since.

 
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You do know that several of her accounts, in court, contradicted themselves, right?


Including but not limited to that dress didn't exist.

But those were details, because orange man bad.


Meanwhile, jeans Carol thinks "most people think of rape as sexy".
Whatever. You are 100% sure it was nothing. What if it wasn’t? Not a shred of doubt? You are convinced this guy is an innocent victim because “Orange man good.”
 
Whatever. You are 100% sure it was nothing. What if it wasn’t? Not a shred of doubt? You are convinced this guy is an innocent victim because “Orange man good.”
I believe he assaulted her and grabbed her vagina. I dont think this is appropriate. I also am willing to recognize a diffence in culture and touching in 1990 vs 2025.

He assaulted her, that is not ok.


If i say "that guy raped a chick" to you, you dont think of a crotch grab.


Again, I had a chick grab my nuts so damn hard when the bouncer pulled her backwards she brought me with her, not once did I think of it as "rape" I laughed at the drunk chick that got kicked out and kept partying.
 
Irrelevant. He’s never going to pay any of it. But the incorrect usage is indicative of the dumbfvckery of the commenter to whom I was responding.
He already has dipshit. Again, know what you're talking about before you open your mouth. He's already posted bond to that amount, which he had to do before he could file his appeal. Now that he's lost his appeal, which everybody knew he would, that money is gone. Well gone to the rape victim E Jean. So... again...officially and legally... a sexual abuser. God that's kind of embarrassing for you. Are you really this dumb? He's already paid it. 🤣🤣 Party at E Jean's tonight, hope to see you there!!!
 
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I believe he assaulted her and grabbed her vagina. I dont think this is appropriate. I also am willing to recognize a diffence in culture and touching in 1990 vs 2025.

Again, I had a chick grab my nuts so damn hard when the bouncer pulled her backwards she brought me with her, not once did I think of it as "rape" I laughed at the drunk chick that got kicked out and kept partying.
Guess I won’t vote for her then.
 
He already has dipshit. Again, know what you're talking about before you open your mouth. He's already posted bond to that amount, which he had to do before he could file his appeal. Now that he's lost his appeal, which everybody knew he would, that money is gone. Well gone to the rape victim E Jean. So... again...officially and legally... a sexual abuser. God that's kind of embarrassing for you. Are you really this dumb? He's already paid it. 🤣🤣 Party at E Jean's tonight, hope to see you there!!!
You being the type of person that would enjoy spending time with E. Jean Carroll is incredibly on brand.
 
Woohoo, Bonespurs is buying!!
I wonder which one Bonespurs got his money's worth for more? The $130,000 he paid to Stormy Daniels keep their sexual adventure quiet, the $130,000 he paid to Karen McDougal to keep their sexual adventure quiet, or the $5 million he paid to E Jean Carroll to sexually abuse her? Has he ever stated which one he got the best bang for the buck for (pun intended)? 🤣
 
I wonder which one Bonespurs got his money's worth for more? The $130,000 he paid to Stormy Daniels keep their sexual adventure quiet, the $130,000 he paid to Karen McDougal to keep their sexual adventure quiet, or the $5 million he paid to E Jean Carroll to sexually abuse her? Has he ever stated which one he got the best bang for the buck for (pun intended)? 🤣
You don't pay the whore for sex, you pay them to leave.
 
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It's amazing that all of these deplorable wouldn't loan Trump $20 or leave him unsupervised with their daughter, but, they just didn't have a choice this election. Kamala wanted to force them to be trans, and her laugh was funny.
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He already has dipshit. Again, know what you're talking about before you open your mouth. He's already posted bond to that amount, which he had to do before he could file his appeal. Now that he's lost his appeal, which everybody knew he would, that money is gone. Well gone to the rape victim E Jean. So... again...officially and legally... a sexual abuser. God that's kind of embarrassing for you. Are you really this dumb? He's already paid it. 🤣🤣 Party at E Jean's tonight, hope to see you there!!!
The appellate process is not complete. Again, you’re talking out your ass. You should stick to knitting sweaters.
 
The appellate process is not complete. Again, you’re talking out your ass. You should stick to knitting sweaters.
You should stick to supporting guilty sexual abusers. It seems to fit you well. Pretty embarassing though... do you still feel dirty?? Be proud!! By the way, seeing as how you are so fervently supporting a confirmed sexual abuser, do you happen to be guilty of that same crime, because birds of a feathers DO stick together. Just wondering... given your aggressive support of sexual abuse.
 
You should stick to supporting guilty sexual abusers. It seems to fit you well. Pretty embarassing though... do you still feel dirty?? Be proud!! By the way, seeing as how you are so fervently supporting a confirmed sexual abuser, do you happen to be guilty of that same crime, because birds of a feathers DO stick together. Just wondering... given your aggressive support of sexual abuse.
Now you’re just blathering like the typical leftist autistic/bipolar/crazy idiot. Face it, the guys who used to shove your head in the toilet in high school just re-elected their president. Deal with it, twerp. Now go outside and Reeeee!!!!!! at the sky.
 
Now you’re just blathering like the typical leftist autistic/bipolar/crazy idiot. Face it, the guys who used to shove your head in the toilet in high school just re-elected their president. Deal with it, twerp. Now go outside and Reeeee!!!!!! at the sky.
I understand your embarassment... sexual abusers are looked at as the absolute scum of our society. And rightfully so. Bonespurs has been identified as one, and you are a lemming following him off of a cliff. You didn't answer the question... do you still feel dirty cozying up to a sexual abuser? Party at E Jean's house tonight. $5.5 million in booze on tap!! Thanks Bonespurs!
 
Hey Boomer Sooner I was going to ask you this at E Jean's's winners party tonight, but I have a feeling you're going to skip it... probably out of your embarrassment. Do you suppose that when Bonespurs goes and visit a school, he's going to have to get special permission to go in? You know... they usually don't let sexual abusers within 500 yards of schools. Are they going to do that same restriction for him? How embarassing for him if they do... you know being the paper president and all.
 
I understand your embarassment... sexual abusers are looked at as the absolute scum of our society. And rightfully so. Bonespurs has been identified as one, and you are a lemming following him off of a cliff. You didn't answer the question... do you still feel dirty cozying up to a sexual abuser? Party at E Jean's house tonight. $5.5 million in booze on tap!! Thanks Bonespurs!
Not embarrassed at all. Don’t feel dirty at all. My side won, ie. regular Americans. And you will continue to throw your tantrums for the next four years, which will be quite entertaining.
 
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Not embarrassed at all. Don’t feel dirty at all. My side won. And you will continue to throw your tantrums for the next four years, which will be quite entertaining.
It's okay, you can admit your embarrassment that comes from supporting a guy who was found to have sexually abused someone. It's understandable, nobody thinks less of you for it. Well, maybe they actually do, since sexual abusers are the scum of the earth. But you be you. Have a good day cletus. And keep an eye out for that check from Mexico... 😂
 
It's okay, you can admit your embarrassment that comes from supporting a guy who was found to have sexually abused someone. It's understandable, nobody thinks less of you for it. Well, maybe they actually do, since sexual abusers are the scum of the earth. But you be you. Have a good day cletus. And keep an eye out for that check from Mexico... 😂
OK, but I’m not embarrassed. But you’re you. Now THAT is cause for embarrassment.
 
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