Even after all of these years, I am still taken aback by how fiercely some people would fight just to taste a single drop of Trump's baby batter on the tip of their tongue.
Trump out of business in New York
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Hillary Clinton: No Gag Orders
Hunter Biden: No Gag Orders
Barack Obama: No Gag Orders
Joe Biden: No Gag Orders
Weird.
They have to get in line behind GOP congressmen and wait their turn.
The judge ruled before there was any defense offered. This was a prearranged trial and outcome with the AG determining that there would not be a jury trial afforded. The judge ruled prior to anything other than the AG offering their case. The evidence presented was truly and meaningfully wrong in terms of the valuations put forward
This has been and is a kangaroo court
There is no second phase of a trial by the way. Just a judge that made a determination prior to the defense being afforded any chance to speak
No
Phase 1 of the trial allowed for "defense".
But Trump and his lawyers failed to produce any.
No
That's the phase the trial is in.
The fraud claims are already established. Which is why the judge ruled that Trump and his lawyers may not contest that, anymore. It was adjudicated already.
Well, he's shit out of luck. The "SOPHICISCATED WALL STREET BANKS" were his out of his reach and wouldn't work with him, Clark.
Cue Deutsche Bank.
There was defense offered but, even if there wasn't, that is on Trump's legal team not on the judge, the system, the prosecutor, or anyone other than those sitting at the defense table. You really do suck at this.
No irony here. Wingnuts live in a self-imposed state of ignorance. Simply not knowing things is easy. Being uninformed is easy.
You don't know what you don't know. You make sure you don't find out by insisting on using the least reliable sources and refusing accept there are more accurate sources.
The defense could have requested a jury trial and didn't.
We all know it's about projection with Trump. The angriest that he gets is when people remind him that he was born rich, and has never done much but piss away his dad's money. Real business leaders laugh at Trump's business acumen.
Donald Trump has defiantly declared that he totally won this case, and Letitia James is a RACIST, and he is too alpha to testify again.
Titsy concurs, and says that she told Donald he shouldn't testify.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-ne...suit-testify-5710001a228dc333a88e61b18abcfd44
Titsy concurs, and says that she told Donald he shouldn't testify.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-ne...suit-testify-5710001a228dc333a88e61b18abcfd44
How many bancruptcies has Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser's companies had? 16... 17... i lose count. The best businessman ever... just ask him. 🤣🤣
Trump is lying and saying that he can't testify because of the gag orders he is under.
Any excuse will do I suppose to keep from being associated with a loser of a case. Trump can't stand being labeled a loser. After the ruling is handed down he'll say he barely knew Trump Org. He bought a condo from it once because he felt sorry for it, and a general with tears in his eyes begged him to help it out.
Any excuse will do I suppose to keep from being associated with a loser of a case. Trump can't stand being labeled a loser. After the ruling is handed down he'll say he barely knew Trump Org. He bought a condo from it once because he felt sorry for it, and a general with tears in his eyes begged him to help it out.
That won't even leave a mark on a guy worth 8-9 billion.
It is funny watching Trump flail around in this case. You can tell he takes this one very seriously. E. Jean Carroll didn't bother him. Just a lying whore he had to pay some money to. Not even bangable. Her lawyer wasn't bangable, either. But, his money, and his image, that's what Trump cares about. He's going to lose his ass on this case. He could be forced to sell assets. Oh, it will take years, but Trump is cash poor. His money is tied up in the assets he inherited from Fred, and what. he leveraged on that inheritance. And, all the names are coming off his buildings. There is no empire left, and Judge Engoron could force him to sell his few remaining valuable assets. Assuming he actually owns much of anything, anymore. Maybe someday we'll find out how much Saudi and Russian money is propping up his empire? Forcing a sale of assets may bring some of this out into the sunlight.
Trump is saying he will attend the closing arguments next week. I suppose his lawyers will tell him in vain to not say something stupid in the courtroom. He might follow that advice, and just be stupid in the hallway leading to the courtroom, or on his failing social media thing.
It's weird that the guys who would argue all day long about how MAL is really worth a billion dollars have disappeared.
I heard some commentary on Lib TV by lady lawyer Lisa Rubin that the long email between Kise and Engoron featured sections in a different font with misspelled words and random capitalizations. These seemed to be from Trump, and just pasted onto the responses from Kise.
Still, this gives Trump the chance to play the victim. "THEY DON'T WANT ME TO SPEAK FOR YOU"!!!
Edit: Apparently Trump's team missed multiple filings. So, either incompetence, or rambling, tangential instructions from the boss?
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#3's mom passed away. Donald has asked for the closing arguments to be delayed in order for him to mourn her passing. I guess we all grieve in different ways, because he went on Fox for an emotional support town hall tonight.
Too torn up for closing arguments, but not too torn up to go on Fox. Got it.
Too torn up for closing arguments, but not too torn up to go on Fox. Got it.
How long until one of the usual suspects says it was Antifa?
Let me know when it happens, I assume I'll have to adjust my ignore settings.
I did see video of Trump entering the court room this morning. Thankfully there wasn't any audio. I did not see a black ribbon of mourning for... Whatever her name was. The gal that came in via chain migration, which is totally bad.
There was some Trump blustering about him speaking today without permission. God I hope so. Then Engoron can send him to Rikers for the night.
There was some Trump blustering about him speaking today without permission. God I hope so. Then Engoron can send him to Rikers for the night.
Judge Engoron has said he will wrap this up by the end of January. Daycare Donnie will probably have a tough night on his failing social media site tonight.
Personally I think Engoron comes in well under what Letitia James has asked for, but, as mentioned, this case goes to the core of the Trump myth of him being a rich, self made man.
Personally I think Engoron comes in well under what Letitia James has asked for, but, as mentioned, this case goes to the core of the Trump myth of him being a rich, self made man.
Being tired of Trump's BS might be a thing, but he has to construct something that will stand up to an appeal.
The Trump Org.’s court monitor saw something peculiar. And it might not be good for Trump.
While it could be evidence of a crime, it’s likely more important, for now, in the New York attorney general’s civil fraud trial, where a ruling is expected any day.
www.msnbc.com
Why Donald Trump’s mysterious $48 million loan matters
While it could be evidence of a crime, it’s likely more important, for now, in the New York attorney general’s civil fraud trial, where a ruling is expected any day.As devoted Trump trial watchers know, Judge Arthur Engoron said he hoped to release his ruling by today — Jan. 31 — in the New York attorney general’s civil fraud trial against former President Donald Trump; his adult sons, Eric and Don Jr.; multiple Trump-owned companies; and others.
And as we wait, I decided last night to take a closer look at the letter sent to Engoron by former federal Judge Barbara Jones last Friday, when I was consumed with the verdict in another Trump civil trial — E. Jean Carroll’s second defamation case.
You might remember that Jones was initially appointed as an independent monitor of the Trump Organization in late 2022, when the New York AG’s office obtained a preliminary injunction in the case based on its initial showing of long-standing fraud throughout the organization’s financial statements. Jones — whose appointment was agreed to by both sides — has served in that capacity since, and she submits semi-regular reports to Engoron.
In her most recent report, as many have noted, she not only identified a variety of irregularities but also flagged something potentially more significant: the absence of any loan agreement memorializing what she understood to be a $48 million loan to Trump from Chicago Unit Acquisition, an entity affiliated with his Chicago building. That loan, which reportedly was made in 2012, seems to have been repeatedly included among Trump’s liabilities in his U.S. Office of Government Ethics-required financial disclosures in 2018, 2019, 2020 and just days before leaving office in 2021. Yet in her letter, Jones noted that in her recent discussions with the Trump Organization, the company “indicated that it has determined that this loan never existed.”
What’s more, Jones’ letter implies that Trump’s present-day disclosures to the Office of Government Ethics are similarly flawed. Indeed, a review of Trump’s 2023 personal financial disclosure report, which he filed as a presidential candidate in April of last year, reflects the loan as an existing liability, not an extinguished one. If the loan never existed, that means that Trump — while under a court-appointed monitorship — was lying to the federal government and misleading the monitor.
What could this all mean? After all, Trump’s team has rebutted Jones’ account, insisting that executives never told Jones the loan hadn’t existed and providing a recent memo — without any identifiable author — simply stating that the loan was no longer due or payable.
But if there never was any loan, the consequences could be significant — though not necessarily in the way others have suggested. Yes, if Trump received $48 million but never repaid it, that should have had tax consequences. But I am far more interested in how Engoron could be influenced by the discrepancies between how Trump has reported the loan and how he has documented it.
Recall that the New York AG has asked Engoron not only to claw back $370 million in ill-gotten gains from Trump and the other defendants, but also to order a variety of injunctive relief that would prevent Trump and others from doing otherwise lawful acts. That relief includes bans, whether permanently for Trump or more temporarily for Eric and Don Jr., on their participation in the New York real estate industry and their service as directors and officers of New York companies.
In requesting said relief, the attorney general’s office argued that the defendants not only have “a demonstrated history of creating and using false financial documents,” but also that their conduct is likely to recur without such measures. Why? Because, the AG’s office argues, Trump and the others’ unlawful financial conduct persisted throughout the attorney general’s investigation and even after the monitor’s appointment. That Jones has uncovered what could be even further evidence of fraud, as recently as last year, could be the cherry on top of the sundae that Engoron serves Trump.
My best guess would be that curveball thrown to Engoron on the $50M "loan/not loan" fraud that just dropped in his lap.
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