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Trump suggests ‘methods’ exist for bid for unconstitutional third term

Seriously, if he runs again whoever the Democratic candidate is needs to not acknowledge his candidacy and make it very clear that on January 20 he will be at the inauguration ready to be the next President. Because if they allow this, then the Constitution is over as a governing document. Honestly, I don't see any way him running for a 3rd term ends in anything but a civil war because there will be states that will not acknowledge it and will try to secede. Unless the Democrats just shrug their shoulders and go "Oh well, gosh darnit he did it again". Which is also entirely possible.
The Dems won’t do jack squat.

I’m afraid this ship has sailed. Who’s going to stop him?
 
The Dems won’t do jack squat.

I’m afraid this ship has sailed. Who’s going to stop him?
This is entirely possible but I'll have to watch them actually do nothing before I accuse them of it. The Democrats are just never willing to go all in.
 
There is a path for him to return to the Oval Office, but he can not get re-elected. It's a bit convoluted, but it is possible. The Constitutions says he can't be elected more than twice and that he can't serve more than a total of 10 years. So, he would have to finish out his term, have whoever is VP for a subsequent term step down after serving more than two years, have the President name Trump as his new VP, then that person would have to leave office and voila, Trump is in again. This is wildly impractical because no one is going to go along with it.
A Constitutional Amendment allowing someone to be elected to a third term isn't going to happen. Even among hard core Trump supporters, it isn't a popular idea. And anyone falling for this obvious trolling deserves to be trolled.
why do you think he's trolling?

this isn't the first time he's mused about staying in power

i'm not staying up all night worrying about this - because i think this is a bridge too far for some. but i don't think he's joking or anything

we just have to hope the democrats don't nominate someone with a weird laugh again
 
He's almost 79.

He may be dead or demented in 4 years.
Pray a rosary or whatever for that to happen. Seriously.

It’s called an amendment to the constitution. Which ain’t gonna happen.
Since when does Team Trump care about the Constitution?

Deep breaths
It’s also time for people of goodwill, such as yourself, to wake up. Yes, I get liberals have been given to extreme histrionics, but the moral of the story is eventually disaster does show up regardless of how many times the left has cried wolf.

We are there.
 
Sorry Chis. My thread was way out of line, you and all of the others who are just venting should keep venting.
Hopefully, if you have an LGBTQ kid, you will not live to regret being flippant about the dangers Team Trump presents to vulnerable minorities.

Don’t be so glib. This is unprecedented.

And it’s only going to get worse. A lot worse.
 
What's going to be interesting is that if he's still around in 2027/2028 there is no doubt he will try to stay in office. But by then he will be so massively unpopular that many/most Republican elected's are going to want to get rid of him, unless by then they drop all pretenses and declare a dictatorship.

Democrats will also undoubtedly (if we have free and fair elections in 26) control at the least the House. Never underestimate the spinelessness of the current leaders of the Democratic party, but this would have to be a bridge to far even for them--the Democratic base that currently is disgusted with their leadership will be frothing if they do nothing about Trump trying to stay in office past 1/20/2029.
 
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Hopefully, if you have an LGBTQ kid, you will not live to regret being flippant about the dangers Team Trump presents to vulnerable minorities.

Don’t be so glib. This is unprecedented.

And it’s only going to get worse. A lot worse.
Two actually, and I’ll be as flippant and glib as I choose. I’m sure as fvck not going to lose sleep over it and neither are they. If you want to be all doom and gloom that’s your prerogative.
 
The only remotely plausible script I can conjure would be if Vance or some other Trump sycophant runs and wins in 2028 and the Republicans also control the House. They could elect Trump as Speaker of the House and then the Pres and VP simultaneously step down so Trump is next in the line of succession.

But that's a lot of moving parts and an extremely unlikely scenario.
 
The only remotely plausible script I can conjure would be if Vance or some other Trump sycophant runs and wins in 2028 and the Republicans also control the House. They could elect Trump as Speaker of the House and then the Pres and VP simultaneously step down so Trump is next in the line of succession.

But that's a lot of moving parts and an extremely unlikely scenario.
Or he takes over all the elections.
 
None will. If asked they will just say it's the first they've heard about it and they don't know anything about it.

"It's a slippery slope if the Government tells the people their preferred candidate is not eligible to be elected. The people of this country should decide if President Trump serves a third term in the White House not nine unelected Judges."

- Some dipshit Republican member of Congress in 2028 when red states ignore the inevitable SCOTUS case and put Trump on the ballot.
 
The only remotely plausible script I can conjure would be if Vance or some other Trump sycophant runs and wins in 2028 and the Republicans also control the House. They could elect Trump as Speaker of the House and then the Pres and VP simultaneously step down so Trump is next in the line of succession.

But that's a lot of moving parts and an extremely unlikely scenario.
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Something makes me think Trump would find willing helpers.
 
Pretty sure you told us all to take deep breaths in December of 2020 and January of 2021. Trump will just fade away you told us.
I didn’t anticipate Biden running for a second term and after the gaslighting was exposed (amongst the other F ups) Kamala being anointed as the candidate.

Just didn’t see that shit show chain of events happening.

My bad.
 
How about this if you can give me 10 prominent Republican politicians that will stand up to Trump and say no you are ineligible to run in 2028 then I'll take some deep breaths.
If he runs again minus a constitutional amendment that’s some serious shit.

Maybe they put forward an amendment. It won’t pass but we’ll see.
 
If he runs again minus a constitutional amendment that’s some serious shit.

Maybe they put forward an amendment. It won’t pass but we’ll see.
yeah and even if they don't...who cares?

i mean...it's not like trump and his supporters have ever tried to circumvent the normal procedures for a president leaving office or anything

it's fine. he'll muse about staying in office on multiple occasions across several years, but i'm sure he won't actually follow through. trump is famous for being cautious about pushing whats allowed by the constitution
 
If he runs again minus a constitutional amendment that’s some serious shit.

Maybe they put forward an amendment. It won’t pass but we’ll see.
He’s not going to try to run for Pres again. His quotes suggest he’s looking for an alternative method. He’ll run for VP and have Vance resign after being sworn in. Or some other backdoor strategy.
 
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President Donald Trump on Sunday declined to rule out seeking a third presidential term — an unconstitutional act explicitly barred under the 22nd Amendment — saying that “there are methods which you could do it.”

In a phone interview with NBC News’s Kristen Welker, Trump suggested that multiple plans have begun to circulate for him to run for a third term. He pointed to unspecified polling as an indicator of his popularity and claimed he had the “highest poll numbers of any Republican for the last 100 years.”

“A lot of people want me to do it,” Trump said. “But we have — my thinking is, we have a long way to go. I’m focused on the current.”
Asked whether any third-term plans have been presented to him, Trump said: “There are methods which you could do it, as you know.” Welker then mentioned a hypothetical plan where Vice President JD Vance would run in 2028 and “pass the baton.”
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“Well, that’s one. But there are others, too,” Trump responded.
“I’m not joking,” Trump said. “But, I’m not — it is far too early to think about it.”
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Pressed again by Welker on the toll of the presidency and if he would want to serve a third term, Trump, who would be 82 years old in 2028, said, “Well, I like working.”
White House communications director Steven Cheung reiterated that it was “far too early” to consider the possibility and emphasized the support Trump garnered in the election.
Trump, as a candidate and as a second-term president, frequently teased running for a third term and mused with supporters whether he should run again. The concept has gained traction with some of his most ardent allies — despite the Constitution’s 22nd Amendment, which flatly and explicitly limits presidents to being elected to two terms.
The 22nd Amendment was led by Republicans and passed in 1951 in response to the four-term presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt. An amendment can be proposed with two-thirds of votes in the House and Senate or by two-thirds of state legislatures proposing a constitutional convention. Three-quarters of state legislatures or conventions in three-fourths of the states must ratify the amendment to change the Constitution.
Some allies have taken such comments seriously, including podcast host and former Trump adviser Stephen K. Bannon. In December, Bannon suggested that Trump should run again, asking a crowd at a New York dinner, “Are you ready for Trump ’28?” and raising the idea that a constitutional loophole could allow Trump to run for a third term.
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Less than a week into Trump’s second term, Rep. Andrew Ogles (R-Tennessee) also proposed an amendment to the Constitution that would allow Trump to serve a third term to “sustain the bold leadership our nation so desperately needs.”

All the people afraid that this could/will happen:

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He’s not going to try to run for Pres again. His quotes suggest he’s looking for an alternative method. He’ll run for VP and have Vance resign after being sworn in. Or some other backdoor strategy.
Nobody ineligible to run for President can run for VP.
 
If he runs again minus a constitutional amendment that’s some serious shit. - Yeah which is why it's pretty silly to be mocking people who are worried that he's floating this idea.

Maybe they put forward an amendment. It won’t pass but we’ll see. - if it fails because of a completely partisan vote do you really think that will stop him?

Again I ask can you name 10 Republican politicans that will stand up to him if.he does decide to run again in 2028.
 
Pretty sure you told us all to take deep breaths in December of 2020 and January of 2021. Trump will just fade away you told us.
We had no idea your side would take the 20 side of 80/20 issues and lose to Trump, even we couldn't see that one coming.
 
Again I ask can you name 10 Republican politicans that will stand up to him if.he does decide to run again in 2028.
If he arbitrarily decided to run again it'd be challenged in the courts. Wouldn't be a vote in congress so your question is irrelevant

If a constitutional amendment comes up it takes 2 thirds of the House and Senate which obviously won't happen.
 
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If he arbitrarily decided to run again it'd be challenged in the courts. Wouldn't be a vote in congress so your question is irrelevant.

And he, with support from the GOP, is already arguing that the courts have no authority over him.

Ultimately, Congress is the only body that can stop him and you know you can’t name ten GOP Congress members who would stand up to him,
 
And he, with support from the GOP, is already arguing that the courts have no authority over him.

Ultimately, Congress is the only body that can stop him and you know you can’t name ten GOP Congress members who would stand up to him,
It wouldn't take 10 with bare majorities.

Currently in the senate Snow, Murkowski, Mitch are obvious no's. That put's it at 50/50. They probably could round up a Senator to be named later.

As far as congress goes the obvious line is an amendment and there just aren't the votes for that even if all R's voted for it.
 
Again, it's always the Democrats fault with you. Republicans had a plethora of candidates from which to choose during the primaries. You chose to put Trump on the top of your ticket. It's all on the GOP.
We like winning just like you guys. I guess more than you because we put up a candidate with a snowball's chance in hell of winning. But your lack of accountability is aweome. Keep taking the 20 side of 80/20 issues and we can stay in power forever.
 
It wouldn't take 10 with bare majorities.

Currently in the senate Snow, Murkowski, Mitch are obvious no's. That put's it at 50/50. They probably could round up a Senator to be named later.

As far as congress goes the obvious line is an amendment and there just aren't the votes for that even if all R's voted for it.

Regarding the amendment angle; nobody here is talking about that. If an amendment were to actually be passed that would all be legal. Trump and others aren't talking about an amendment. They 're talking about ignoring the 22nd amendment. Just like they're talking about ignoring court orders, and just like he tried to get Pence to ignore the results of the 2020 election.

We can't pretend all this talk about ignoring constitutional law is nothing to worry about. Because tens of millions of American are okay with it, and most of the GOP is okay with it. We're nervous because anyone paying attention ought to be nervous.
 
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