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The word on the elite street is that we already have our chose delegates from the parties of persuasive pestilence.

Who wins in this case? I see it as a loss if either should win, for all the American people and most certainly our Arab friends.

This country may be corrupt, on the brink of disaster, and on it's way to WW3....

But it sure is fun to be part of eh?
 
The word on the elite street is that we already have our chose delegates from the parties of persuasive pestilence.

Who wins in this case? I see it as a loss if either should win, for all the American people and most certainly our Arab friends.

This country may be corrupt, on the brink of disaster, and on it's way to WW3....

But it sure is fun to be part of eh?
Yeah, Drudge is saying Bernie's campaign is effectively over in 2 weeks.
 
HRC in a landslide! GOP voters stay home wondering just where everything went to hell.

Meanwhile, RubioBot files papers to be the next governor of Florida in hopes of another Presidential run in 2024.
 
There is no question that Hillary is steamrolling her way to
the nomination for the Democrats. The party establishment
definitely wants her to continue the legacy of Obama.

The GOP nomination is a different matter. The party bigwigs
hate Trump and will unite behind Rubio. This battle between
the son of a bartender and an egomaniac could get rough.
 
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HRC in a landslide! GOP voters stay home wondering just where everything went to hell.

Meanwhile, RubioBot files papers to be the next governor of Florida in hopes of another Presidential run in 2024.
Not sure about that, the GOP voters will all vote for him. Trump will also get a lot of the independent votes as well. Don't be too proud of this technological construct you call Hillary. The ability to be a complete bitch is insignificant next to the power of a real prick.
 
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HRC in a landslide! GOP voters stay home wondering just where everything went to hell.

Meanwhile, RubioBot files papers to be the next governor of Florida in hopes of another Presidential run in 2024.

There is plenty of apathy and disdain for HRC. I do think she would devastate Trump in any serious debates though.
 
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Rubio is going to have a chance.

I think an outsider wins in 2020. Let's face it, everything is going to get a lot worse when we keep the borders wipe fricking open.
 
There is plenty of apathy and disdain for HRC. I do think she would devastate Trump in any serious debates though.
Let's be honest. Hillary would destroy Rubio is a debate. Marco can't handle the pressure of thinking on his feet in front of millions. Get him off his track just a little bit and he folds. We saw this during his water bottle moment and again during Christie lighting him up. All Hillary has to do is pressure him to talk beyond his memorized index cards and Rubio will wilt.
 
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Let's be honest. Hillary would destroy Rubio is a debate. Marco can't handle the pressure of thinking on his feet in front of millions. Get him off his track just a little bit and he folds. We saw this during his water bottle moment and again during Christie lighting him up. All Hillary has to do is pressure him to talk beyond his memorized index cards and Rubio will wilt.

It would be laughably bad. She would smell blood and go for the throat.
 
I do fear Rubio would go on one of his canned rants/biography a few too many times in a debate.

Hillary is a well polished liar, voters love those types.
 
It would be laughably bad. She would smell blood and go for the throat.
There's a reason why Marco has his answers memorized word for word and then immediately pivots to a pre-packaged drive-by insult. He doesn't trust himself. Put him up in front of a friendly town hall crowd and he can talk off his head. But put him up in front of the entire nation and he needs the robotic answers to lean on. Compounding his lack of confidence even more is that he'll have to give far longer answers in a one on one debate, while being forced to give spur of the moment answers. General election debates probably won't play well into Roboto's debate strategy.
 
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There's a reason why Marco has his answers memorized word for word and then immediately pivots to a pre-packaged drive-by insult. He doesn't trust himself. Put him up in front of a friendly town hall crowd and he can talk off his head. But put him up in front of the entire nation and he needs the robotic answers to lean on. Compounding his lack of confidence even more is that he'll have to give far longer answers in a one on one debate, while being forced to give spur of the moment answers. General election debates probably won't play well into Roboto's debate strategy.

You're so full of it. Did you see the last debate? Rubio went off script plenty.
 
As much hate as HRC seems to create...The Trump negative numbers are higher than those of Hillary. If, and I mean IF, it's a battle between these two, Clinton will expose him in debates when specifics are required.

Trump's "I know people" and We're going to start winning again" phrases might work on an ignorant Republican primary season, but come the general election... he's going to need to deal in specifics. He has hardly been specific on anything for the last few months. He's merely been playing to the voters disdain for Washington.

Hillary might be distasteful to many, but she has world experience that will dwarf Trump. Trump will be exposed as a blowhard.

Meanwhile, after a third failed WH run, the GOP will need to realize that the process to pick a nominee cannot alienate the mass public for the general. They will realize that forcing their nominee so far right is not the recipe to win in November.

McCain. Mitt, and now Trump all will have fallen to the vocal minority of the Republican Party.

And our rich white GOP donors will still have bags of cash to spend for 2020. Some people never learn.
 
You're so full of it. Did you see the last debate? Rubio went off script plenty.
Do you know how long Marco spoke during this debate? 10 minutes and 39 seconds. That's is. Most of our dumps last longer than that. I'd be surprised if more than a couple of minutes of this was Marco going off the top of his head. But in reality, probably no more than a minute or two was Marco being spur of the moment.
 
It doesn't matter who wins the GOP nomination. The GOP will get behind their nominee to defeat Hillary.
 
Exactly what has Hillary ever accomplished with her "world of experience"?

What's Hillary got?
  • US Secretary of State
  • Two-term US Senator
  • Two-term First Lady
Now, what's Rubes got?
  • Freshman US Senator
I think you're going after the wrong person for lack of experience.
 
What's Hillary got?
  • US Secretary of State
  • Two-term US Senator
  • Two-term First Lady
Now, what's Rubes got?
  • Freshman US Senator
I think you're going after the wrong person for lack of experience.

Those are job titles, not accomplishments.
 


Maybe someday, but not now

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Hillary Clinton
"We now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil."

— PolitiFact New Hampshire


Longest and most detailed, but hardly the only

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Hillary Clinton
"I am the only candidate on either side who has laid out a specific plan about what I would do to defeat ISIS."


Campaign says she phrased it wrong

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Hillary Clinton
"Every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced (in the U.S. Senate) had a Republican co-sponsor."


She chose the wrong metric

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Hillary Clinton
"We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."


No evidence has emerged

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
ISIS is "going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists."


The protection isn't bulletproof

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
The gun industry is "the only business in America that is wholly protected from any kind of liability."


Not by a long shot

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
The Benghazi probe is "the longest-running congressional investigation ever."


Bill never made it to governor's desk

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
Says Scott Walker rejected legislation to make college loan payments tax deductible and the result was "to raise taxes on students."

— PolitiFact Wisconsin


Some Republicans have, especially Rubio

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
"Not one of the 17 GOP candidates has discussed how they'd address the rising cost of college."

— PolitiFact Florida


Even interpreted charitably, her claim is greatly misleading

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
Hedge fund managers "pay less in taxes than nurses and truck drivers."


One, certainly not all
 
I would offer, as any GOP member who is nominated, that the rape enabling old hag is perhaps the largest liar who has waddled on this earth, period. I would state that this idiot hag cannot be believed because of all of the documented lies. I would then have my phone with me and take every couple minutes to announce to the crowd that I had to delete an email. Afterwards, I would deny I deleted anything.

Then I'd show her the constitution, because that is like the cross to a vampire to her and all the progressive clowns who may support her.
 
Now, what's Rubes got?
  • Freshman US Senator

Born in Miami, Florida in 1971, Marco Rubio is the son of Cuban immigrants. After earning a bachelor's degree from the University of Florida in 1993, he went to the University of Miami for his law degree.

Rubio began his life in public service in 1998 by winning a seat on the West Miami City Commission. Before long, he made his ascent into state politics. Rubio was victorious in his bid for the Florida House of Representatives in 1999. He quickly established himself as a political force with the legislature, becoming the majority leader in 2003 and then speaker of the House three years later.

As the speaker, Rubio launched an ambitious campaign to generate ways to improve and reform the state government. He held a series of gatherings around the state to hear and collect ideas from Florida residents. Culling from these suggestions, Rubio put together a proposal called "100 Innovative Ideas for Florida's Future." He presented the proposal to the legislature and more than half of these ideas became laws. One of these reforms, however, didn't survive the political process. The fiscally conservative Rubio had lobbied for property tax reforms and for instituting a sales tax increase.

In 2009, Rubio surprised many in Florida politics by taking on former Florida governor and Republican Charlie Crist for the Senate seat vacated by Mel Martinez. Analysts initially viewed Rubio as the underdog, and he trailed the better-known Crist in the polls at first. But the well-spoken young politician hammered at Crist for his ties to President Barack Obama, and emphasized the state's dire need for economic change. "I'm in this race to win. Many of the things that make America unique are threatened by politicians in Washington, D.C. We're going to make irreversible decisions over the next four to six years. I want to be a part of correcting the course," he said during his campaign.

Late in the campaign, Rubio found himself retracting some of his statements about his family background. He had initially stated that his parents fled Cuba during the revolution. However, they had actually left before Fidel Castro took power. This information had little impact on his campaign. Voters seemed more taken with his pledges to curb federal spending.

With the help of Tea Party supporters, the reform-minded Rubio managed to win an impressive victory in November 2010. He defeated both Crist, who ran as an independent, and Democratic opponent Kendrick Meek. Since taking office in 2011, Rubio has become a member of several legislative committees, including the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation; and the Committee on Foreign Relations.

Less than a year after taking office, Rubio became the subject of intense political speculation. His name has been bandied about as a possible running mate for Mitt Romney in his 2012 bid for the presidency. Though Rubio has denied that he had any interest in the vice-presidential nomination, political analysts and members of the Republican Party thought he would have a good choice for the vice-presidential spot due to his representation of an important state in the national election and likely support from the Latino community.

Instead of joining the Romney campaign, Rubio focused on his work in the Senate. He has worked on immigration reform, joining a bipartisan effort to introduce the Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013. Rubio has also been an outspoken pro-life advocate. He introduced legislation in January 2015 to allow states to "enforce their parental notification and consent laws" when a minor travels to another state for an abortion, according to Rubio's official website.

http://www.biography.com/people/marco-rubio-20840041#political-career
 
This battle between
the son of a bartender and an egomaniac could get rough.

What does this have to do with anything? You're obviously using it to try to diminish Rubio, but if his father worked hard to support his family and did it legally, shouldn't we admire that? Why do so many liberals love to knock working class jobs as somehow embarrassing to hold? At least in the United States, I thought we admired hard work above all else? I know that I still do.
 


Maybe someday, but not now

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
"We now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil."

— PolitiFact New Hampshire


Longest and most detailed, but hardly the only

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
"I am the only candidate on either side who has laid out a specific plan about what I would do to defeat ISIS."


Campaign says she phrased it wrong

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
"Every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced (in the U.S. Senate) had a Republican co-sponsor."


She chose the wrong metric

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
"We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."


No evidence has emerged

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
ISIS is "going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists."


The protection isn't bulletproof

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
The gun industry is "the only business in America that is wholly protected from any kind of liability."


Not by a long shot

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
The Benghazi probe is "the longest-running congressional investigation ever."


Bill never made it to governor's desk

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
Says Scott Walker rejected legislation to make college loan payments tax deductible and the result was "to raise taxes on students."

— PolitiFact Wisconsin


Some Republicans have, especially Rubio

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
"Not one of the 17 GOP candidates has discussed how they'd address the rising cost of college."

— PolitiFact Florida


Even interpreted charitably, her claim is greatly misleading

politifact%2Fmugs%2Fclinton_mug.jpg

Hillary Clinton
Hedge fund managers "pay less in taxes than nurses and truck drivers."


One, certainly not all
Hate to break it to you, but Politifact has Hillary being more truthful than Trump, Cruz, and Rubio, almost put together.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/marco-rubio/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ted-cruz/
 
I would offer, as any GOP member who is nominated, that the rape enabling old hag is perhaps the largest liar who has waddled on this earth, period. I would state that this idiot hag cannot be believed because of all of the documented lies. I would then have my phone with me and take every couple minutes to announce to the crowd that I had to delete an email. Afterwards, I would deny I deleted anything.

Then I'd show her the constitution, because that is like the cross to a vampire to her and all the progressive clowns who may support her.
Check out my above post. The real liars are actually the Republicans. Their factcheck profiles are a joke.
 
What's Hillary got?
  • US Secretary of State
  • Two-term US Senator
  • Two-term First Lady
Now, what's Rubes got?
  • Freshman US Senator
I think you're going after the wrong person for lack of experience.
This is one time we can agree. Hillary is definitely one of the good ol' boys. She's approaching a resume that hasnt' been seen since Bush Sr. was elected. Though even hers pales into comparison in regards to his.
 
LOL... Whatever you say. Keep sticking up for the fat hag felon. Keep pissing on the constitution.
 
This is one time we can agree. Hillary is definitely one of the good ol' boys. She's approaching a resume that hasnt' been seen since Bush Sr. was elected. Though even hers pales into comparison in regards to his.
Speaking of good ol' boys, but I find it odd that Rubio is running on being establishment these days. When he got into office, he ran on being an outsider. But now, he can't scramble to the establishment fast enough. He also has gotten more money from Wall Street than anyone else. For someone who got elected on not being bought, he sure looks bought now. Not sure when this is going to become a problem for him?
 
Those are job titles, not accomplishments.
This is where the cons on here fail. Obama - no experience. Hillary, with lots of experience...nope, job titles. Unbelievable. Wait...it totally is.

And I really don't want to vote for Hillary.
 
I wonder if she was elected where she would find jobs for the Rodham brothers, Hugh and Tony.

After the Clintons left office in 2001, word emerged that Hugh Rodham had taken some $400,000 in fees from a client to lobby for a last-minute presidential pardon from his brother-in-law. “I love my brother,” Hillary Clinton said at the time. “I’m just extremely disappointed in this terrible misjudgment that he made.”

Would she be disappointed if they were not caught?


1999, Hugh and brother Tony Rodham entered into a $118 million venture to grow and export hazelnuts from the Republic of Georgia.[10] The U.S. State Department andNational Security Advisor Sandy Berger became upset, however, when the Rodhams' local business connection in Batumi turned out to be Aslan Abashidze, a major political opponent of Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze, then a key U.S. ally in the region.[10][12][18] After initial resistance,[12] Berger and the Clintons prevailed upon the Rodham brothers to drop the deal.[2][10] Hugh Rodham stated that he was only acting as a lawyer for the venture and did not have money invested in it.[12]

Episodes such as these led Hillary Clinton's White House staff to refer to Hugh and Tony as "the Brothers Rodham",[19] extending the American tradition of troublesome presidential siblings to the brother-in-law category;[12] one senior White House official would be quoted as saying, "You never wanted to hear their name come up in any context other than playing golf."[19]

I can't wait for the daily corruption reports if the Biatch gets elected.
 
Speaking of good ol' boys, but I find it odd that Rubio is running on being establishment these days. When he got into office, he ran on being an outsider. But now, he can't scramble to the establishment fast enough. He also has gotten more money from Wall Street than anyone else. For someone who got elected on not being bought, he sure looks bought now. Not sure when this is going to become a problem for him?

He's the GOP's best chance at possibly taking down Trump. It won't happen though.
 
He's the GOP's best chance at possibly taking down Trump. It won't happen though.
The polls certainly don't look good for him. I just checked out RealClearPolitics. There is only one state that has Marco leading. Utah. That's it. Out of dozens of states and umpteen polls, he only leads one poll in a single state. I think he's effed.
 
It doesn't matter who wins the GOP nomination. The GOP will get behind their nominee to defeat Hillary.
Ask Romney & McCain how that worked out for them. The Evangelicals wouldn't come out and vote for Romney because he was Mormon and the Tea Partyers turned their nose up at JM because he was too moderate.

Lord with CNN says Trump can win New York as well as Florida and Ohio in November. He will have to to become POTUS.

Hillary will have much help from the '46%' that Romney correctly identified last time around.

It could come down to the independent vote or if Hill's is campaigning from a white collar prison cell.
 
The polls certainly don't look good for him. I just checked out RealClearPolitics. There is only one state that has Marco leading. Utah. That's it. Out of dozens of states and umpteen polls, he only leads one poll in a single state. I think he's effed.
Hence why Prime sees a victory for Trump. I also think he could be a real threat to win, if the voting system wasn't rigged. He'll take the GOP votes, the independents, and voila. The establishment may see him as too big of a risk, if in fact he's not in that circle. Which I think that he probably is more than people may think.
 
Hence why Prime sees a victory for Trump. I also think he could be a real threat to win, if the voting system wasn't rigged. He'll take the GOP votes, the independents, and voila. The establishment may see him as too big of a risk, if in fact he's not in that circle. Which I think that he probably is more than people may think.
NPR has an article up today that asks why people aren't declaring the race over and Trump the winner? In an ordinary year they would be calling it. Why is this year different? Because the GOP doesn't want to accept that he's beaten everyone else.

http://www.npr.org/2016/02/23/46773...laring-the-gop-race-over-and-trump-the-winner
 
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