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Trump: Zelensky ‘has no cards,’ ‘shouldn’t be at meetings’ with Russia

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Utterly deplorable. What a POS Trump is:

President Trump lashed out at Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday, saying he did not think it was important for Zelensky to attend negotiations about the war in Ukraine.
Trump acknowledged in a Fox News Radio interview with Brian Kilmeade that Russia attacked Ukraine but still suggested former President Biden and Zelensky shared blame for failing to talk down Moscow.




“I’ve been watching for years, and I’ve been watching him negotiate with no cards,” Trump said of Zelensky. “He has no cards. And you get sick of it.”
“So, I don’t think he’s very important to be at meetings, to be honest with you,” Trump added. “He makes it very hard to make deals.”
Trump suggested Russian President Vladimir Putin wanted to reach a deal to end the war in Ukraine. He claimed Putin did not necessarily have to negotiate a ceasefire, because if he wanted, he’d get “the whole country.”
“Every time I say, ‘Oh, it’s not Russia’s fault,’ I always get slammed by the fake news,” Trump told Kilmeade. “But I’m telling you, Biden said the wrong things. Zelensky said the wrong things. They got attacked by somebody that’s much bigger and much stronger.”

 
Can anyone please explain why we are even involved if it’s not both parties at the table? Does Trump believe Ukraine is just going to accept whatever he tells them to do? They have the backing of Europe, they have ingenuity, they have manpower.

I cannot even fathom why he thinks this will work.

Does anyone speak MAGA well enough to translate this insanity.
 
Utterly deplorable. What a POS Trump is:

President Trump lashed out at Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday, saying he did not think it was important for Zelensky to attend negotiations about the war in Ukraine.
Trump acknowledged in a Fox News Radio interview with Brian Kilmeade that Russia attacked Ukraine but still suggested former President Biden and Zelensky shared blame for failing to talk down Moscow.




“I’ve been watching for years, and I’ve been watching him negotiate with no cards,” Trump said of Zelensky. “He has no cards. And you get sick of it.”
“So, I don’t think he’s very important to be at meetings, to be honest with you,” Trump added. “He makes it very hard to make deals.”
Trump suggested Russian President Vladimir Putin wanted to reach a deal to end the war in Ukraine. He claimed Putin did not necessarily have to negotiate a ceasefire, because if he wanted, he’d get “the whole country.”
“Every time I say, ‘Oh, it’s not Russia’s fault,’ I always get slammed by the fake news,” Trump told Kilmeade. “But I’m telling you, Biden said the wrong things. Zelensky said the wrong things. They got attacked by somebody that’s much bigger and much stronger.”

Zelensky and his fellow Ukaranians do have cards, they can play the "were not signing your onesided peace deal" card.

If it were to play out like this Trump will look stupid and be one of the big world asshole enemies. Then we can get to work really pushing hard to get all the idiot Repubs out of there
 
Can anyone please explain why we are even involved if it’s not both parties at the table? Does Trump believe Ukraine is just going to accept whatever he tells them to do? They have the backing of Europe, they have ingenuity, they have manpower.

I cannot even fathom why he thinks this will work.

Does anyone speak MAGA well enough to translate this insanity.
Because we’ve given them 66 billion dollars with no reciprocity attached unlike Europe.
 
Because we’ve given them 66 billion dollars with no reciprocity attached unlike Europe.
So even though we as a nation decided to give weapons and money with no geopolitical strings attached we now have the right to determine their destiny as a nation because we gave them something?

Do you get to decide who a coworker should marry just because you were their secret Santa? Do you get to decide what happens to your neighbor’s land because you gave them an old lawn mower?

I hope you realize how stupid that sounds. You are arguing in favor of unilaterally deciding where the lines on a map will be drawn without one of the parties involved at the table. Do you realize that is FAR more imperial/expansionist than simply giving people the means to defend their homes?

It’s no peace agreement unless you have a f*cking agreement between all parties. Of all the dumbass things MAGA puts forward this may actually be the dumbest.

Can anyone come up with a legitimate/semi-intelligent right for why we are playing this role? I know why it benefits Putin, I know why it benefits Trump. But I cannot fathom how it benefits the US. And it sure as shit will only hurt the poor people of Ukraine who were attacked against their will. Numpty here failed miserably.
 
So even though we as a nation decided to give weapons and money with no geopolitical strings attached we now have the right to determine their destiny as a nation because we gave them something?

Do you get to decide who a coworker should marry just because you were their secret Santa? Do you get to decide what happens to your neighbor’s land because you gave them an old lawn mower?

I hope you realize how stupid that sounds. You are arguing in favor of unilaterally deciding where the lines on a map will be drawn without one of the parties involved at the table. Do you realize that is FAR more imperial/expansionist than simply giving people the means to defend their homes?

It’s no peace agreement unless you have a f*cking agreement between all parties. Of all the dumbass things MAGA puts forward this may actually be the dumbest.

Can anyone come up with a legitimate/semi-intelligent right for why we are playing this role? I know why it benefits Putin, I know why it benefits Trump. But I cannot fathom how it benefits the US. And it sure as shit will only hurt the poor people of Ukraine who were attacked against their will. Numpty here failed miserably.
Since when does the left care about national sovereignty and lines on a map? I would tend to agree with you more if you believed in what you typed. I have 4 years of a wide open border with no attempt to do a single thing about it and even denials there was a problem…

Your side can start caring about OUR borders and OUR lines on the map and then I’ll hear your argument.
 
So even though we as a nation decided to give weapons and money with no geopolitical strings attached we now have the right to determine their destiny as a nation because we gave them something?

Do you get to decide who a coworker should marry just because you were their secret Santa? Do you get to decide what happens to your neighbor’s land because you gave them an old lawn mower?

I hope you realize how stupid that sounds. You are arguing in favor of unilaterally deciding where the lines on a map will be drawn without one of the parties involved at the table. Do you realize that is FAR more imperial/expansionist than simply giving people the means to defend their homes?

It’s no peace agreement unless you have a f*cking agreement between all parties. Of all the dumbass things MAGA puts forward this may actually be the dumbest.

Can anyone come up with a legitimate/semi-intelligent right for why we are playing this role? I know why it benefits Putin, I know why it benefits Trump. But I cannot fathom how it benefits the US. And it sure as shit will only hurt the poor people of Ukraine who were attacked against their will. Numpty here failed miserably.
We have our own invasion and criminals to deal with. 60 billion probably feeds some hungry kids and house at least a few homeless vets/families. But hey, let’s just keep sending billions across the pond with no end game in sight
 
Since when does the left care about national sovereignty and lines on a map? I would tend to agree with you more if you believed in what you typed. I have 4 years of a wide open border with no attempt to do a single thing about it and even denials there was a problem…

Your side can start caring about OUR borders and OUR lines on the map and then I’ll hear your argument.
The only “side” I’m on in this topic is the side of democracy over violent authoritarian imperialist expansion.

Please find a post where I call for more illegal immigration or a post where I say I want uncontrolled borders. Unlike you I’m not a lemming that believes whatever one “side” says. Hell yesterday I was chastised by multiple Dems for my stance on the Maine governor. I’m a Christian fiscal conservative with socially liberal views. Exactly what side is that?

So play team politics all you want, but it’s a cop out because you don’t have the ability to form a coherent argument as to why Trump’s approach is valid. I hope you realize that the team you picked are anti-democracy. The team you picked are the bullies. The team you picked are the least Christian folks I have ever seen in government (and that is saying something). Y’all preach your fake Christian morality only to turn around and support pure evil.

It’s honestly sickening.
 
The only “side” I’m on in this topic is the side of democracy over violent authoritarian imperialist expansion.

Please find a post where I call for more illegal immigration or a post where I say I want uncontrolled borders. Unlike you I’m not a lemming that believes whatever one “side” says. Hell yesterday I was chastised by multiple Dems for my stance on the Maine governor. I’m a Christian fiscal conservative with socially liberal views. Exactly what side is that?

So play team politics all you want, but it’s a cop out because you don’t have the ability to form a coherent argument as to why Trump’s approach is valid. I hope you realize that the team you picked are anti-democracy. The team you picked are the bullies. The team you picked are the least Christian folks I have ever seen in government (and that is saying something). Y’all preach your fake Christian morality only to turn around and support pure evil.

It’s honestly sickening.
Did you vote republican or democrat? Because your posts can say one thing but your actions speak louder. Speaking of democracy does Ukraine plan on holding elections?
 
The only “side” I’m on in this topic is the side of democracy over violent authoritarian imperialist expansion.

Please find a post where I call for more illegal immigration or a post where I say I want uncontrolled borders. Unlike you I’m not a lemming that believes whatever one “side” says. Hell yesterday I was chastised by multiple Dems for my stance on the Maine governor. I’m a Christian fiscal conservative with socially liberal views. Exactly what side is that?

So play team politics all you want, but it’s a cop out because you don’t have the ability to form a coherent argument as to why Trump’s approach is valid. I hope you realize that the team you picked are anti-democracy. The team you picked are the bullies. The team you picked are the least Christian folks I have ever seen in government (and that is saying something). Y’all preach your fake Christian morality only to turn around and support pure evil.

It’s honestly sickening.
Democracy according to Democrats: have your political opponents thrown off of the ballot using the 14th amendment and then getting voted down 9-0 by the Supreme Court.

Trying to bankrupt and or jail their political opponents by fabricating crimes coordinated out of the White House through the DOJ and pushed by rogue prosecutors and AG's

When that doesn't work, just try to assassinate your opponents. Democracy done the Democrat way.
 
We have our own invasion and criminals to deal with. 60 billion probably feeds some hungry kids and house at least a few homeless vets/families. But hey, let’s just keep sending billions across the pond with no end game in sight
You are such a dishonest poster.

You are now in favor of feeding hungry kids? Housing the homeless? Remind me again which states are doing any of that? Isn’t that SoCiAliSm?
 
Did you vote republican or democrat? Because your posts can say one thing but your actions speak louder. Speaking of democracy does Ukraine plan on holding elections?
I voted for a democrat for president, but I did not vote straight ticket. I voted for some Republicans on the ballot…although I did not vote for anyone who endorsed Trump.

Ukraine would hold elections if they were not being ruthlessly invaded.
 
Democracy according to Democrats: have your political opponents thrown off of the ballot using the 14th amendment and then getting voted down 9-0 by the Supreme Court.

Trying to bankrupt and or jail their political opponents by fabricating crimes coordinated out of the White House through the DOJ and pushed by rogue prosecutors and AG's

When that doesn't work, just try to assassinate your opponents. Democracy done the Democrat way.
Fact Check: - true but needs context. Trump was only to be left off the ballot in a few states before the supreme court stepped in. There’s no evidence of any wrong doing in the 2024 election despite constant false claims from the democrats that there was voter suppression, Russian interference, and Trump only won due to unsubstantiated claims of white supremacy and sexism.
 
Since when does the left care about national sovereignty and lines on a map? I would tend to agree with you more if you believed in what you typed. I have 4 years of a wide open border with no attempt to do a single thing about it and even denials there was a problem…

Your side can start caring about OUR borders and OUR lines on the map and then I’ll hear your argument.
We have our own invasion and criminals to deal with. 60 billion probably feeds some hungry kids and house at least a few homeless vets/families. But hey, let’s just keep sending billions across the pond with no end game in sight
Wow. Talk about a major deflection when you have no good retort.
 
You are such a dishonest poster.

You are now in favor of feeding hungry kids? Housing the homeless? Remind me again which states are doing any of that? Isn’t that SoCiAliSm?
It probably is, but if we are hell bent on spending the money, let’s take care of our own first, then maybe throw a bone to Ukraine or tranny sing alongs in Botswana
 
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I voted for a democrat for president, but I did not vote straight ticket. I voted for some Republicans on the ballot…although I did not vote for anyone who endorsed Trump.

Ukraine would hold elections if they were not being ruthlessly invaded.
But they’re not, as of today right?
 
The worst outcome here is with our relations to Europe. This could spiral. We negotiate a deal with Russia. Ukraine says nope. Western Europe says nope. We support Ukraine. Where does that leave us with France. Germany. UK. Countries that have been our allies for over 70 years opposing an expansionist Russia.

Now suddenly, in the eyes of Europe a significant percentage of our electorate and members of our governing body have begun to openly support Russia, despite them admittedly invading a foreign country.
 
But they’re not, as of today right?
How about this? Free elections in Ukraine. But you can only vote if your parents were born in Ukraine. Otherwise you have no vote. As a person who does not support illegal immigration you’d be all for that right? There’s no way that Russians who have immigrated into Ukraine should have the vote? You don’t believe they should vote. At least that’s what you’ve been saying.
 
Anyone in GOP that supported Iraq and Afghanistan has no room to talk on spending overseas. You assholes cost us 6+ trillion (not to even mention the thousands of dead and wounded Americans and allied soldiers) to fight geopolitical nobodies for absolutely no gain to the US. If you had wanted to bomb them further in to the stone age, that would have been fine. But that isn't what you did.

We'd be supporting Ukraine for a long time before we even approach a significant fraction of the cost of that misadventure.
 
This.


If zelensky wants to bitch he can try to run the gambit solo.

He will last 2 minutes.
So that’s what we’ve come to. We are going to let the strong take over the weak. Worldwide. If you’re strong enough to invade someone we will stand back and let it happen.

Please don’t ever. Ever. Call yourself a Reagan Republican.
 
So that’s what we’ve come to. We are going to let the strong take over the weak. Worldwide. If you’re strong enough to invade someone we will stand back and let it happen.

Please don’t ever. Ever. Call yourself a Reagan Republican.

Take these guys back to 1939 and they are blaming Poland and Czechoslovakia for Germany invading.
 
Democracy according to Democrats: have your political opponents thrown off of the ballot using the 14th amendment and then getting voted down 9-0 by the Supreme Court.

Trying to bankrupt and or jail their political opponents by fabricating crimes coordinated out of the White House through the DOJ and pushed by rogue prosecutors and AG's

When that doesn't work, just try to assassinate your opponents. Democracy done the Democrat way.
You should stick to laughing emojis. Your ability to form an argument would get you assigned to the short bus.
 
How about this? Free elections in Ukraine. But you can only vote if your parents were born in Ukraine. Otherwise you have no vote. As a person who does not support illegal immigration you’d be all for that right? There’s no way that Russians who have immigrated into Ukraine should have the vote? You don’t believe they should vote. At least that’s what you’ve been saying.
So only Ukraine citizens would get to vote in their elections? Okay.
 
So only Ukraine citizens would get to vote in their elections? Okay.
The entire point of denying elections in Ukraine is that Russia has flooded the area with immigrants and soldiers. They would vote for a Russian puppet government. Thats the entire point. Were you not aware of that? Russia is all about elections because they will put enough people in the country to win.
 
So that’s what we’ve come to. We are going to let the strong take over the weak. Worldwide. If you’re strong enough to invade someone we will stand back and let it happen.

Please don’t ever. Ever. Call yourself a Reagan Republican.
We have been there for 3 years and the only plan seems to be to continue to write blank checks.

You want to bitch, blame Biden for kicking the can for several years without any plan.

We will fight your battles and pay your bills indefinitely isn't a plan.
 
The entire point of denying elections in Ukraine is that Russia has flooded the area with immigrants and soldiers. They would vote for a Russian puppet government. Thats the entire point. Were you not aware of that? Russia is all about elections because they will put enough people in the country to win.
Now do the southern border.
 
Trump is such a pos loser. What a shit stain on our country this turd is. When does the revolution begin?

It won't and it would be a mistake. He was democratically elected and the majority of people wanted his domestic policy. A revolution only emboldens that side further.

Trust me. I'm just as frustrated and embarrassed as you. We can only hope that he does something so heinous and illegal that the Republicans that used to have a soul before it was scared out of them or bought will impeach this guy.

Until then all we can do is hope for the best.
 
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