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Trump's Biggest Nightmare

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Fed cut Fed Funds rate today and 10 Year Treasury went down in value and yields went up. If Federal Reserve has to start raising rates to stop inflation from getting worse and God forbid, cut the massive budget deficits by raising taxes and cutting spending, Trump will be in his worst nightmare.

I wonder if Trump's second term will be like the Carter years (1977-1981) with rising inflation. Carter ended up appointing Paul Volcker to be the Fed Chairman and he was great but he jacked up rates so we had a 20% Prime Rate which led to a severe recession.
 

Trump's Biggest Nightmare​

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Fed cut Fed Funds rate today and 10 Year Treasury went down in value and yields went up. If Federal Reserve has to start raising rates to stop inflation from getting worse and God forbid, cut the massive budget deficits by raising taxes and cutting spending, Trump will be in his worst nightmare.

I wonder if Trump's second term will be like the Carter years (1977-1981) with rising inflation. Carter ended up appointing Paul Volcker to be the Fed Chairman and he was great but he jacked up rates so we had a 20% Prime Rate which led to a severe recession.
People getting a clue on how terrible he is and finally holding him accountable is actually it.
 
Fed cut Fed Funds rate today and 10 Year Treasury went down in value and yields went up. If Federal Reserve has to start raising rates to stop inflation from getting worse and God forbid, cut the massive budget deficits by raising taxes and cutting spending, Trump will be in his worst nightmare.

I wonder if Trump's second term will be like the Carter years (1977-1981) with rising inflation. Carter ended up appointing Paul Volcker to be the Fed Chairman and he was great but he jacked up rates so we had a 20% Prime Rate which led to a severe recession.

Pretty sure tariffs will fix it.
 
Fed cut Fed Funds rate today and 10 Year Treasury went down in value and yields went up. If Federal Reserve has to start raising rates to stop inflation from getting worse and God forbid, cut the massive budget deficits by raising taxes and cutting spending, Trump will be in his worst nightmare.

I wonder if Trump's second term will be like the Carter years (1977-1981) with rising inflation. Carter ended up appointing Paul Volcker to be the Fed Chairman and he was great but he jacked up rates so we had a 20% Prime Rate which led to a severe recession.
I don't know that trump would *actually* care about any of that. He's there to help out himself and his family/friends, and to get back at all the people that he sees as being "against" him.
 
I don't know that trump would *actually* care about any of that. He's there to help out himself and his family/friends, and to get back at all the people that he sees as being "against" him.
You are speaking with a bunch of adults who think a roughly 80 year old, billionaire, 2 time president, has the fear someone is going to realize "how terrible he is" .... at 80.
 
Fed cut Fed Funds rate today and 10 Year Treasury went down in value and yields went up. If Federal Reserve has to start raising rates to stop inflation from getting worse and God forbid, cut the massive budget deficits by raising taxes and cutting spending, Trump will be in his worst nightmare.

I wonder if Trump's second term will be like the Carter years (1977-1981) with rising inflation. Carter ended up appointing Paul Volcker to be the Fed Chairman and _-he was great but he jacked up rates so we had a 20% Prime Rate which led to a severe recession.
Ya but with the bad news, the good news was 18 - 20 % CDs during those years, that i was very happy with that.
 
Yep. Economic PAIN just like we voted for!!

Bad times make good men, and we need more good men….not the commie libs so it’s time for some bad times. Musk understands this.
 
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More than half the country voted for him and swept all three branches…. There is that.
Don’t forget who created this mess, now you expect Trump to fix it when he’s not even in office.
Uh no! Less than half of people that voted, voted for him. I don't expect him to fix anything. He'll make a bigger mess than he did the last time.
 
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VIX shot up 74% today and the DJIA is on an 11 day losing streak. Big market correction incoming or just a blip on the radar?
I’m accumulating cash currently and have ceased making my regular contributions into my equity market holdings. I could be on the wrong side of it, but I expect a very unstable market for the next 4 years. Investors hate uncertainty and outsized risk and that is pretty much the definition of DJT.
 
More than half the country voted for him and swept all three branches…. There is that.
Don’t forget who created this mess, now you expect Trump to fix it when he’s not even in office.
Sarcasm????

This entire mess was created by supply chain issues and a lot of price gouging.

I don't think things would have been quite so bad if Trump had acknowledged Covid when he first found out about it in November 2019. Instead, he waited until March 2020.
And a piss poor effort from the WH in 2020/2021 to get the vaccine program started.

Of course, you already knew this.
 
I’d imagine his biggest fear is that Keith Schiller didn’t take care of all of his little mistakes and there is a bastard roaming around ready to file a claim.
 
I don't know that trump would *actually* care about any of that. He's there to help out himself and his family/friends, and to get back at all the people that he sees as being "against" him.
Bingo... he will come out of this presidency wildly more wealthy as will the billionaires he is appointing to his cabinet.
 
Fed cut Fed Funds rate today and 10 Year Treasury went down in value and yields went up. If Federal Reserve has to start raising rates to stop inflation from getting worse and God forbid, cut the massive budget deficits by raising taxes and cutting spending, Trump will be in his worst nightmare.

I wonder if Trump's second term will be like the Carter years (1977-1981) with rising inflation. Carter ended up appointing Paul Volcker to be the Fed Chairman and he was great but he jacked up rates so we had a 20% Prime Rate which led to a severe recession.
Please explain your second sentence. The Fed does raise and lower rates, but they have nothing to do with raising taxes or cutting spending. Trump can veto spending bills, and hopefully that's what he will do if he has a lick of sense. He can also control energy policy as the price of oil affects virtually everything (transportation and production of plastic and synthetics). The Fed tries to use monetary policy to offset bad fiscal policy, but there's no exact correlation.

The inflation during the Carter years was caused by government spending and the price of oil going up because of the oil embargo. It was magnified by the US coming off the gold standard 5 years earlier in 1971.

The inflation problem is typically because we elect politicians who don't learn from history, and because roughly half the voters are below the median intelligence.
 
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I already called this way before the election. The powers that be will do everything they can to dump the economy before he gets into office and you see that playing out right now.
 
Please explain your second sentence. The Fed does raise and lower rates, but they have nothing to do with raising taxes or cutting spending. Trump can veto spending bills, and hopefully that's what he will do if he has a lick of sense. He can also control energy policy as the price of oil affects virtually everything (transportation and production of plastic and synthetics). The Fed tries to use monetary policy to offset bad fiscal policy, but there's no exact correlation.

The inflation during the Carter years was caused by government spending and the price of oil going up because of the oil embargo. It was magnified by the US coming off the gold standard 5 years earlier in 1971.

The inflation problem is typically because we elect politicians who don't learn from history, and because roughly half the voters are below the median intelligence.
The Fed controls monetary policy and Congress/President controls fiscal policy.

They can both be stimulative, or both be restrictive or split.

In recent times, the Fed began a stimulative monetary policy under Bernanke called Quantitative Easing where the Fed ended up printing $9 Trillion out of thin air and injecting it into the Treasury market and the Mortgage Backed Securities market. Bernanke was trying to create what he called the "wealth effect". Think trickle down economics on steroids.

LBJ pressured the then Fed Chairman Martin to not fight the guns (Vietnam War) and butter (Medicare and Medicaid) fiscal policies of LBJ. Then Nixon had inflation price controls which were a disaster. Throw in the OPEC price hike and inflation was going up too much under Carter.
 
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The Fed controls monetary policy and Congress/President controls fiscal policy.

They can both be stimulative, or both be restrictive or split.

In recent times, the Fed began a stimulative monetary policy under Bernanke called Quantitative Easing where the Fed ended up printing $9 Trillion out of thin air and injecting it into the Treasury market and the Mortgage Backed Securities market. Bernanke was trying to create what he called the "wealth effect". Think trickle down economics on steroids.

LBJ pressured the then Fed Chairman Martin to not fight the guns (Vietnam War) and butter (Medicare and Medicaid) fiscal policies of LBJ. Then Nixon had inflation price controls which were a disaster. Throw in the OPEC price hike and inflation was going up too much under Carter.
Pretty much what happened. There’s always tensions as Presidents try to expand their powers and Congress tries to restrain Presidential power… and expand their own. The Fed is unique and they fight with everyone… and everyone fights with them.
 
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