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Trump's 'Obamagate' comments and Barr's Flynn meddling suggest troubling new pivot

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Trump can't pull off this ruse by himself, of course, but he has a partner. Barr is riding shotgun during this scorched-earth joyride against justice.

By Frank Figliuzzi, former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence and NBC News/MSNBC analyst

In my 25 years as an FBI special agent and (now retired) head of the bureau's counterintelligence, I learned the value of predictive analysis. Following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the FBI transitioned from an investigative agency adept at investigating what happened after the fact to an intelligence agency capable of forecasting and preventing harm from happening in the future.

Forecasting is a lot easier when there are clear clues. And when it comes to assessing the trap Attorney General William Barr and President Donald Trump appear to be setting for us, the warning signs are plentiful. We don't need to read tea leaves for this. We only need to review tweets.

The warning signs are plentiful. We don’t need to read tea leaves for this. We only need to review tweets.

On Saturday, Trump retweeted a fantastical fiction of a theory from The Federalist asserting that former President Barack Obama's White House intelligence discussions about, in part, the trustworthiness of incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn and members of the Trump transition team were proof that Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden were malevolently conspiring against the Trump administration.

Trump later retweeted a Fox News legal analyst's opinion that without Flynn, the entire Russia investigation is meaningless and perhaps should be thrown out, as well. Those cues are only the latest of a multitude of similar warnings that point to where the president and the attorney general may be venturing next.

Trump is clearly still sensitive about the 2016 election, and especially about concerns that he may not have beaten former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton fairly. He therefore has a special interest in undermining accusations of Russian meddling, something he has done since entering the Oval Office. What better way to do this than to flip the script? He didn't have an advantage; in fact, he was the victim.

As other commentators have pointed out, attempting this bait and switch would likely involve efforts to censure, discipline or even criminally charge current and former government officials, such as former CIA Director John Brennan, fired FBI Director James Comey, former national security adviser Susan Rice, former National Intelligence Director James Clapper and perhaps even Obama and Biden. During his Monday news conference in the Rose Garden, a reporter asked Trump what crime he might accuse Obama of committing. Trump responded: "Obamagate, it's been going on for a long time. It's been going on from before I got elected, and it's a disgrace that it happened. You look at, now, all of this information that's being released, and from what I understand, that's only the beginning."

The kind of truth-twisting required to launch such false allegations is alluring to Trump-supporting conspiracists who are already throw around groundless terms like "Deep State." But for these theories to transition from mere social media innuendo to formal accusations would be a chaotic and divisive development. Moreover, any criminal investigations would require cooperation from Barr.

And the president's strategy might not end with useless, polarizing investigations into members of the previous administration. What if he tried to convince Americans that the indictments of 26 Russian nationals for their efforts meddling in our country's election should never have been brought? This approach could then be used to justify overturning U.S. sanctions against Russia. Such a reversal would certainly appease President Vladimir Putin, which brings us to another breadcrumb.


On May 7, the same day that Barr moved to dismiss proven charges against Flynn, Trump had a call with Putin. Although the official White House summary of the call didn't include a discussion of what Trump has called the "Russia hoax," Trump disclosed to reporters that he and Putin talked about the repercussions of the special counsel's investigation. Trump explained that the "Russia hoax" was "very hard" on the U.S. and Russia's foreign relations, "and we discussed that."

Predictive analysis doesn't put much credence in coincidences. Barr's attempt to make the special counsel's Russia-related Flynn case disappear, and Trump's chat with Putin about the special counsel inquiry the same day, should be treated as indications of a potential shift in strategy ahead.

We already know that the president has been hellbent on invalidating the work of the special counsel's office. That investigation resulted in 34 total indictments, including those of the 26 Russians and three Russian organizations. Other individuals were convicted when their cases were spun off to other prosecutors.

The convictions of loyal associates like Flynn and Roger Stone clearly needle Trump. But the special counsel found no chargeable criminal conspiracy between them and Russia. The elements of Mueller's investigation that seem to really cut the deepest are the findings about election interference. And it's those findings that Trump may now be seeking to nullify.

In Trump's mind, the evidence of Russian meddling, confirmed by the GOP-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, tarnishes his victory. And that bruises his ego.

Trump can't pull off this ruse by himself, of course, but he has a partner. Barr is riding shotgun on Trump's scorched-earth joyride against justice. Barr already said he believes the Russia inquiry was designed to "sabotage" Trump's campaign. He's ignored the findings of his own inspector general and appointed a hand-picked U.S. attorney to try to put flesh on the bones of a convoluted conspiracy theory.

As this staged farce unfolds, the truth will be trampled, reputations ruined and a foreign adversary empowered. We don't need a crystal ball to see the harmful trap ahead. Don't fall for it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-flynn-meddling-suggest-troubling-ncna1204856
 
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Unfortunately, for whatever reason, trumpbaggers have fallen for it and either, have no idea what it will entail, or have no moral backbone. Either way, it is a stain on society.
 
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If they really try this and charge people in the past administration, I think it would backfire and galvanize every person not in the cult to vote them out of office. All of this is right now is red meat to shore up the cult who, don't really need it. But they start pulling stunts like charging people like Rice, Comey, Obama or even his presidential opponent (he was impeached for trying to harm), and it will cause a true opening of the eyes of their danger to this nation. It will push almost all the moderate and independents to vote for Biden and against republican Senators. They are playing with fire.
 
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If they really try this and charge people in the past administration, I think it would backfire and galvanize every person not in the cult to vote them out of office. All of this is right now is red meat to shore up the cult who, don't really need it. But they start pulling stunts like charging people like Rice, Comey, Obama or even his presidential opponent (he was impeached for trying to harm), and it will cause a true opening of the eyes of their danger to this nation. It will push almost all the moderate and independents to vote for Biden and against republican Senators. They are playing with fire.
Trump just wants his people to show up, and then he'll try and drive down participation on the left. That is how he wins re-election at this point.
 
It suggests Trump understands he is getting killed with this COVID stuff and he needs a distraction.
He has feral instincts, I'll give him that. I cannot give him any credit for his willingness to bring down the country, ruin the lives of people, and destroy norms and the respect Americans hold in institutions and shared values.
 
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Unfortunately, for whatever reason, trumpbaggers have fallen for it and either, have no idea what it will entail, or have no moral backbone. Either way, it is a stain on society.
Not really sure what you think someone has fallen for. The Flynn case that was dropped was his sentencing. His guilty plea still stands and he has not be pardoned. Other potential prosecution has been dropped because after reviewing everything, there wasn't anything to pursue, unless YOU can point to something. The potential stain is left by the previous administration, who never spoke out on COVID or Biden's run until this stuff dropped. Now they're vocal.
 
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Not really sure what you think someone has fallen for. The Flynn case that was dropped was his sentencing. His guilty plea still stands and he has not be pardoned. Other potential prosecution has been dropped because after reviewing everything, there wasn't anything to pursue, unless YOU can point to something. The potential stain is left by the previous administration, who never spoke out on COVID or Biden's run until this stuff dropped. Now they're vocal.
You really are oblivious, stupid, or just morally bankrupt. Flynn was taking money from two foreign governments and lied about it. He lied to your vice president and was fired by your president, for that reason. He plead guilty and was sentenced to a very light sentence. He is a stain on our country, and trump's boy, barr is a stain for his corruption.
I don't even think there is a comment to be made by your statement of the previous administration and COVID. It's so f**king ridiculous, it's beyond any normal comprehension that anyone would make it.
 
Perhaps we'll finally get to hear Susan Rice explain the CYA email that she wrote to herself on inauguration day....
 
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Copy and paste from NBC news...say, would you mind copy/paste of the Chuckie Todd "inadvertent omission" from this weekend?
 
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Perhaps we'll finally get to hear Susan Rice explain the CYA email that she wrote to herself on inauguration day....

Maybe Ciggy can find some articles about the illegal section 702 searches that the Obama administration was running on unmasked American's communications.

I keep waiting.
 
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Not really sure what you think someone has fallen for. The Flynn case that was dropped was his sentencing. His guilty plea still stands and he has not be pardoned. Other potential prosecution has been dropped because after reviewing everything, there wasn't anything to pursue, unless YOU can point to something. The potential stain is left by the previous administration, who never spoke out on COVID or Biden's run until this stuff dropped. Now they're vocal.
You do realize that Obama was concerned enough about the possibility that he set up a Pandemic response team that Trump eliminated. We’ll never know if a competent admin would have prevented the outbreak here. The first human infected with this was in Nov 2019. That’s during the trump administration by my calendar.
 
So you're saying a president should be investigated and held accountable for possible illegal actions?

The PATRIOT Act nightmare scenario of the administration spying on the communications of the political opposition needs a full airing.

We know from the FISC findings that the FBI was allowing thus far unnamed contractors access to raw NSA upstream comms who were searching for Americans.

Nixon bugging the Democratic office in the Watergate hotel is peanuts compared to the data trove the Obama admin was digging in illegally.

All the details need to come out and we need to end these blanket domestic spy programs.

There should be accountability. I can't see the argument against keeping this from the light of day.
 
It’s very simple: Obama was a great guy who I would welcome in my home. Trump is a prick I wouldn’t let 100 yards from my home. Why is that a wedge issue? You all amuse me sometimes.
 
The PATRIOT Act nightmare scenario of the administration spying on the communications of the political opposition needs a full airing.

We know from the FISC findings that the FBI was allowing thus far unnamed contractors access to raw NSA upstream comms who were searching for Americans.

Nixon bugging the Democratic office in the Watergate hotel is peanuts compared to the data trove the Obama admin was digging in illegally.

All the details need to come out and we need to end these blanket domestic spy programs.

There should be accountability. I can't see the argument against keeping this from the light of day.

So your short answer is "Yes", a POTUS should be investigated and held accountable for illegal activities. Thanks.
 
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