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Trump looks to hire a ‘grave counterintelligence threat’

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Former president Donald Trump is preparing to bring back into his campaign fold a man convicted of multiple crimes and whom a bipartisan Senate report labeled a “grave counterintelligence threat” because of his ties to a Russian spy.

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It sounds like an uncharitable summary, but that’s about the size of it.

Trump has long surrounded himself with and even hired colorful and problematic characters. But the idea of bringing Paul Manafort back for another round might take the cake.
The Washington Post’s Josh Dawsey reported Monday that Trump plans to do just that. Four people close to Trump said he was expected to hire Manafort as a campaign adviser later this year, with potential jobs centering on the Republican National Convention and/or fundraising. While Trump has shelved plans to hire certain people after backlashes — think far-right provocateur Laura Loomer — he is reportedly determined to rehire Manafort.



The move would be characteristically defiant. Trump pardoned Manafort after losing the 2020 election, claiming he had been treated unfairly and sparing him years more in confinement after his convictions for money laundering, obstruction and foreign lobbying violations. And Trump has broadly dismissed the Russia probe that ensnared Manafort as a “hoax.”

But importantly, the finding that Manafort was a “grave counterintelligence threat” and that the man he worked with during the 2016 campaign was a “Russian intelligence officer” was not from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia report. Rather, it came in a later, bipartisan 2020 report from the Senate Intelligence Committee. (That committee’s acting chairman at the time: Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida.)
So what do those two reports say about Manafort and the risks he would seem to pose by working with a potential future president?



Particularly relevant were the findings that Manafort effectively became a conduit for potential Russian influence.
The key findings from the Senate report:
  • “The Committee found that Manafort’s presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for the Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign.”
  • “The Committee assesses that [Russian intelligence officer Konstantin] Kilimnik likely served as a channel to Manafort for Russian intelligence services, and that those services likely sought to exploit Manafort’s access to gain insight info the Campaign.” (Kilimnik has denied ties to Russian intelligence.)
  • “Taken as a whole, Manafort’s high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik, represented a grave counterintelligence threat.”
The Senate report also repeatedly cited the fact that there remained much we didn’t know about the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. It said that was largely because Manafort repeatedly lied about these subjects, thereby obscuring “the single most direct tie between senior Trump Campaign officials and the Russian intelligence services.” This raised the prospect that there was more actual collusion beneath the surface.
And crucially, it casts those lies as both inexplicable — because Manafort had entered into a cooperation agreement and was risking more prison time — and conspicuous, given that the lies focused almost exclusively on his ties to Kilimnik.



“Manafort’s true motive in deciding to face more severe criminal penalties rather than provide complete answers about his interactions with Kilimnik is unknown,” the committee report said, “but the result is that many interactions between Manafort and Kilimnik remain hidden.”
An important question from there is whether Manafort knew or believed he was working with a Russian spy. To the extent we have a window into it, their work together involved sharing Trump campaign polling data and discussing proposals related to Ukraine.
Manafort told Mueller’s investigators that Kilimnik was not a spy, but the reports contain evidence that he at least suspected it. Fellow top Trump campaign aide Rick Gates told Mueller’s team that Gates suspected Kilimnik was a spy and shared that view with Manafort and others. Gates said that Manafort would occasionally insert false statements into discussions with Kilimnik to see if he would pass along that information. The Senate report also says that Manafort told former Ukraine president Viktor Yanukovych to have Kilimnik probed to make sure they could have “sensitive” conversations in Kilimnik’s presence.



“Manafort, like others who dealt with Kilimnik, at some point harbored suspicions that Kilimnik had ties to intelligence services,” reads a footnote in the Senate report. “Manafort was undeniably aware — often from first-hand experience — of suspicious aspects of Kilimnik’s behavior and network.”
Also relevant are Manafort’s potential actions to further Kilimnik’s — and by extension, per the Senate report, Russia’s — interests.
One involves a Ukraine “peace plan” that Manafort later acknowledged to investigators was effectively a “backdoor” for Russia to gain control of parts of eastern Ukraine. Manafort told them that he cut off conversation on the subject and told Kilimnik the plan was crazy. But the Senate report said Manafort “continued working with Kilimnik on the plan, including efforts to draft a poll to test aspects of the plan as late as 2018.”



The most tantalizing prospect laid out in the Senate report is that Manafort might not have served just as a conduit for information or influence, but that he might have actually played a role in Russia’s hacking and leaking of Democrats’ emails in 2016.
The report was clear that this was something of a black box and that there is not “reliable, direct evidence” that either Manafort or Kilimnik were involved. Then it adds: “Two pieces of information, however, raise the possibility of Manafort’s potential connection to the hack-and-leak operations.”
Precisely what the information is, we still don’t know. Most of the next two pages were redacted. And again, the report notes that Manafort’s lack of transparency makes all of this difficult to suss out.
But the fact that the bipartisan Senate report included it, along with other warnings about Manafort, would seem extremely relevant in a moment in which the potential next president is looking to hire him — again, and despite it all.

 
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There can't be an Indee voter in this country considering voting for DJT?
If I have learned anything from the past eight years, it's that people will go to great lengths to rationalize anything that they've been convinced to believe. I thought the collective fever would break within a couple of years. I used to be much more optimistic about human nature and the capacity for rational thought. Thanks, Trump.
 
If I have learned anything from the past eight years, it's that people will go to great lengths to rationalize anything that they've been convinced to believe. I thought the collective fever would break within a couple of years. I used to be much more optimistic about human nature and the capacity for rational thought. Thanks, Trump.

And they also have the memories of goldfish
 
Manafort was in the employ of Russians for years then he suddenly shows up at Trump's campaign and offers to work for free despite his apparent financial issues. He's inexplicably named as Trump's campaign chair. The GOP party platform is changed to indicate softening support for Ukraine but - of course - the man who worked with Russia to destabilize Ukrainian democracy and put a Russian stooge in office had nothing to do with it. Then he meets with a known Russian operative and shares sensitive Trump campaign strategies and internal polling data - the kind of information a campaign would use to craft it's media message - while the Kremlin is...uh huh...crafting a disinformation media campaign designed to help elect Donld Trump.


But there was NO collusion, DAMN IT!
 
It has become clear that pretty much all of trump's associates, most of the Senate republicans, and almost all the House GOP members are extreme counterintelligence threats, traitors to our country, and incapable of doing their jobs. It would be wise to get them out of government ASAP.
 
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Rightward turn during Trump's presidency​

In 2020, The New York Times noted that since 2017, when many of its "straight-news" reporting journalists were laid off, RealClearPolitics showed a pro-Trump turn with donations to its affiliated nonprofit increasing, much from entities supported by wealthy conservatives. Several journalists who talked to The New York Times in 2020 said they never felt any pressure from the site's founders to bias their stories.[13] The New York Times also said that "Real Clear became one of the most prominent platforms for elevating unverified and reckless stories about the president's political opponents, through a mix of its own content and articles from across conservative media...." and that for days after the election, "Real Clear Politics gave top billing to stories that reinforced the false narrative that the president could still somehow eke out a win."[13] An October 2019 article in The Daily Beast reported that RealClear Media manages a Facebook page of "far-right memes and Islamophobic smears". Anand Ramanujan, chief technology officer for RealClear Media, responded that the company created the website that was affiliated with the Facebook page "as part of an effort to understand the flow of traffic from social media—particularly Facebook—to political websites."[26]

Real Clear Politics heavily promotes content by The Federalist, a conservative website which draws funding from the same pool of donor money as Real Clear Politics.[13]

In 2016, RealClearInvestigations was launched,[27] backed by foundations associated with conservative causes, such as the Ed Uihlein Family Foundation and Sarah Scaife Foundation.[28] In 2019, the site published an article by a conservative author, Paul Sperry, containing the supposed name of a U.S. intelligence officer who blew the whistle on the Trump–Ukraine scandal.[28] The article's publication came as part of a month-long effort by Trump allies on media and social media to "unmask" the whistleblower, whose identity was kept confidential by the U.S. government, in accordance with whistleblower protection (anti-retaliation) laws.[28] Most publications declined to reveal the whistleblower's identity; Tom Kuntz, editor of RealClearInvestigations, defended the site's decision to publish the article.[28]
 
Weel there is a very real chance he will be your next President. An elected President. And I will be here for it if it happens.
 

Rightward turn during Trump's presidency​

In 2020, The New York Times noted that since 2017, when many of its "straight-news" reporting journalists were laid off, RealClearPolitics showed a pro-Trump turn with donations to its affiliated nonprofit increasing, much from entities supported by wealthy conservatives. Several journalists who talked to The New York Times in 2020 said they never felt any pressure from the site's founders to bias their stories.[13] The New York Times also said that "Real Clear became one of the most prominent platforms for elevating unverified and reckless stories about the president's political opponents, through a mix of its own content and articles from across conservative media...." and that for days after the election, "Real Clear Politics gave top billing to stories that reinforced the false narrative that the president could still somehow eke out a win."[13] An October 2019 article in The Daily Beast reported that RealClear Media manages a Facebook page of "far-right memes and Islamophobic smears". Anand Ramanujan, chief technology officer for RealClear Media, responded that the company created the website that was affiliated with the Facebook page "as part of an effort to understand the flow of traffic from social media—particularly Facebook—to political websites."[26]

Real Clear Politics heavily promotes content by The Federalist, a conservative website which draws funding from the same pool of donor money as Real Clear Politics.[13]

In 2016, RealClearInvestigations was launched,[27] backed by foundations associated with conservative causes, such as the Ed Uihlein Family Foundation and Sarah Scaife Foundation.[28] In 2019, the site published an article by a conservative author, Paul Sperry, containing the supposed name of a U.S. intelligence officer who blew the whistle on the Trump–Ukraine scandal.[28] The article's publication came as part of a month-long effort by Trump allies on media and social media to "unmask" the whistleblower, whose identity was kept confidential by the U.S. government, in accordance with whistleblower protection (anti-retaliation) laws.[28] Most publications declined to reveal the whistleblower's identity; Tom Kuntz, editor of RealClearInvestigations, defended the site's decision to publish the article.[28]
Sure. The website isnt to be believed. Is that your point?
 
Weel there is a very real chance he will be your next President. An elected President. And I will be here for it if it happens.
That very fact speaks extremely poorly of the American electorate. People like yourself who are willing to vote for a convicted rapist, Tax cheat, philanderer, lifetime crook, con man, insurrectionist and Russian asset must feel so proud.
 
That very fact speaks extremely poorly of the American electorate. People like yourself who are willing to vote for a convicted rapist, Tax cheat, philanderer, lifetime crook, con man, insurrectionist and Russian asset must feel so proud.
What it speaks poorly of is the quality of the candidate your party has chosen to run frankly. If you're being honest you'd agree.
 
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Trump's the nomine of your party.. seriously sit this one out
What will you do when he is elected President again? There is a very real chance he will be. Do you acknowledge that? Will that be because of the electoral college, the Russians, MAGA disinformation? Which excuse will it be?
 
What will you do when he is elected President again? There is a very real chance he will be. Do you acknowledge that? Will that be because of the electoral college, the Russians, MAGA disinformation? Which excuse will it be?

No, he got smoked last election and he's lost votes since then .. only an idiot or a cultist would think this
 
Which excuse will it be when he loses? Voter fraud again for the Third time? ANOTHER Big Lie?
No It'll be because the Republican party nominated the wrong candidate. To lose to Biden, one of the historically worst presidents in my lifetime, would be a massive failure. And your answer should be the same if you had any actual credibility or ability to think critically, without your obvious biases.
 
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You are living in lala land bro.
Sorry, lala land has obviously been 4 years of The Big Lie. Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser got beat by 8 and 1/2 million votes to choir boy Joe the last time. He hasn't made any friends since then. Another "landslide." Quoting Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser's own words.
 
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